counting carbs- lentils and pulses and beans

[Deleted member 21371]

It's a mine field and I teach health and social care/nursing ! I also did year 1 of a degree in nutrition and I am still researching. We really rely on government guidelines when we teach and then you find they are wrong!

Why are they wrong?
You've lost weight, your BG response is improved.
That fits what the guidelines say?

 

[Brambleberry]

Not true.
I was amazingly well supported.
Desmond course.
Indoor walking football.
Driving course at the local golf club.
NHS gym for six months.
Complete support for 800 calorie Newcastle diet, well before it was offered on the NHS.

I guess that's why I reversed my diabetes, I had complete support.

I guess if you go full on "low carb" or"carb counting" diet control for life, they may not be as onboard?

I don't think Scotland is offered NHS gym, I wish we were I have fibromyalgia , chronic fatigue and neck and back injuries and all the pain clinic physio advised was walking , and warm up cool down exercises ....which for someone who has aways been active did not do much more than I was already! I trained as a nurse in Newcastle and worked on Prof Taylors ward as a student! Its a radical diet, and I wonder how it works with glicozide....I was ready to go keto ie 30 /50g a day and nurse advised not because of the meds.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I don't think Scotland is offered NHS gym, I wish we were I have fibromyalgia , chronic fatigue and neck and back injuries and all the pain clinic physio advised was walking , and warm up cool down exercises ....which for someone who has aways been active did not do much more than I was already! I trained as a nurse in Newcastle and worked on Prof Taylors ward as a student! Its a radical diet, and I wonder how it works with glicozide....I was ready to go keto ie 30 /50g a day and nurse advised not because of the meds.

Scotland must be lagging behind unfortunately.
The shake diet isn't radical.
Some will claim it's low carb, but it's certainly not keto.
However it will negate the need for anything like glicozade, so it needs medical supervision.

 

[harbottle]

At present two and half weeks in I have not found a single food that spikes me....yet....except a few sugar free biscuits at supper....well you have to trial things! and worst I could do was 7.7 at breakfast and it came down to 3.9 by lunch!
No doubt I will meet my food nemesis in time....

That is probably the glic working.

 

[harbottle]

I don't think Scotland is offered NHS gym, I wish we were I have fibromyalgia , chronic fatigue and neck and back injuries and all the pain clinic physio advised was walking , and warm up cool down exercises ....which for someone who has aways been active did not do much more than I was already! I trained as a nurse in Newcastle and worked on Prof Taylors ward as a student! Its a radical diet, and I wonder how it works with glicozide....I was ready to go keto ie 30 /50g a day and nurse advised not because of the meds.

No, you shouldn’t go low carb if you are taking glic.

 

[Midgie]

I don't think Scotland is offered NHS gym, I wish we were I have fibromyalgia , chronic fatigue and neck and back injuries and all the pain clinic physio advised was walking , and warm up cool down exercises ....which for someone who has aways been active did not do much more than I was already! I trained as a nurse in Newcastle and worked on Prof Taylors ward as a student! Its a radical diet, and I wonder how it works with glicozide....I was ready to go keto ie 30 /50g a day and nurse advised not because of the meds.

Our local leisure centre gym gives a reduced membership fee when referred by your GP practice. ‘live active scheme’.

 

[ColinUK]

Not true.
I was amazingly well supported.
Desmond course.
Indoor walking football.
Driving course at the local golf club.
NHS gym for six months.
Complete support for 800 calorie Newcastle diet, well before it was offered on the NHS.

I guess that's why I reversed my diabetes, I had complete support.

I guess if you go full on "low carb" or"carb counting" diet control for life, they may not be as onboard?

It's great you had such awesome support but it certainly doesn't resemble the support I had.
I did Desmond, was offered a gym membership but only at one that I can't physically get to, was referred to a dietician who told me to eat whatever I wanted basically.
Whenever I've mentioned support for the Newcastle diet (or similar) I've been told that I don't fit their criteria.
Anything I've done with food etc has been down to me and to the support I've had on this forum more than anything from the NHS.

 

[rayray119]

Not true.
I was amazingly well supported.
Desmond course.
Indoor walking football.
Driving course at the local golf club.
NHS gym for six months.
Complete support for 800 calorie Newcastle diet, well before it was offered on the NHS.

I guess that's why I reversed my diabetes, I had complete support.

I guess if you go full on "low carb" or"carb counting" diet control for life, they may not be as onboard?

Ah I guess it depends on what area your area you're in then as thought I saw from type 2s they struggle even get under hostpal specialist happy to to be proven wrong though.


Education wise maybe I'm just thinking of type 2s that are also on MDI doing everything a type 1 dose but aren't allowed to do danfee because it's for type 1s

 

[Deleted member 21371]

It's great you had such awesome support but it certainly doesn't resemble the support I had.
I did Desmond, was offered a gym membership but only at one that I can't physically get to, was referred to a dietician who told me to eat whatever I wanted basically.
Whenever I've mentioned support for the Newcastle diet (or similar) I've been told that I don't fit their criteria.
Anything I've done with food etc has been down to me and to the support I've had on this forum more than anything from the NHS.

I missed a year of NHS dietician support for the original year of low fat calorie counting to target weight loss off that list.