Coronavirus: People aged over 60 urged to avoid crowded places to halt spread

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Oh how I would love to get plenty of sleep . After c 45 years with my insomnia buddy I would definitely not miss it if it decided to abandon me , in fact you’d all hear me jumping for joy and screaming hooray at the top of my voice, the trouble is now I’m older my erm .... buddy has decided I need even les sleep which I sure don’t agree with, yawwwwwwn.
 
So what do we think people? Do I travel on the train into Manchester for work? X
 
So what do we think people? Do I travel on the train into Manchester for work? X

it would depend in which wave you want to be in,probably better to get it earlier before the NHS get overwhelmed with cases.
if you are fit and healthy,a non smoker your chances of not needing hospital and home recuperation will be sufficient.
once you have recovered you should have the antibodys to protect from further re-infection,it is thought ,though not confirmed.
 
Ring her and ask for her advice - that puts any guilt firmly back at her door not yours!
I've put in a query through their brand new e-consult service and should get an email reply tomorrow.
 
I can work from home, but I’ve already done that two days this week, and I always do Friday, I’m getting a bit stir crazy. That just to the office, but I won’t go anywhere else, I don’t want to be on the train really ha!
 
This isn't rocket science, when there is no vaccine for an infectious disease the only real method of inhibiting its transmission rate to a sustained rate below One, is via isolation. Isolation in the form of social contact which means enforcing social distancing, and / or, isolation in the form of disinfection [hand washing, surface cleaning, protective equipment [gloves, air filters, etc.].

It is evident that simple routine activities are being requested or required to be inhibited [such as schooling, entertainment, sports] then one should utilize self constraint in your personal activities. Dispensing with non-critical travel and interaction is appropriate, that includes recreational activities wherein one may come into contact or one may travel and become a vector inadvertently. Basically, this is a time to not go out sightseeing. You can chose to aid in reducing your exposure and the exposure to others. A reasoned and moral choice would be to shelter in place for the interim period and / or to aid in mitigating the disease effects.

One should expect closures of most all places of major gatherings, and events, particularly as to places or happenings of not vital requirement. This inhibition of routine affairs, kind of tells you that recreational travel is not encouraged and should not be practiced.

Reality Check: Self isolation is the only method of inhibiting disease transmission when there is no vaccine. Self isolation breaks the chain of transmission..

The goal of dealing with infectious diseases is to reduce the transmission rate below 1 so as to allow the disease to mitigate. Any and all things that could increase the transmission rate should be inhibited. This is just basic epidemiology.

One can opt to do your part in mitigating this disease as to exposure to self and to others or one can opt to not aid in mitigating the spread.

You are either a part of the solution or part of the problem. That is the harsh fact. And yes such truth is not a convenient truth.
 
Mr Eggy had a hospital appointment yesterday. We walked into the atrium expecting a wall of hand sanitizers but nothing. The temperature was unbelievably hot, perfect breeding ground for bugs. As usual I needed the loo, I’m always wary using hospital loos anyways but yesterday I did my very best to not touch door handles with my bare hands. Luckily the taps are automatic but whilst trying to get out of the door by pulling my coat sleeves over my hands someone barged in and nearly gave me a bloody nose! Our city’s first case confirmed today. A nurse at the very same hospital we were in yesterday, only 30 years old and recently travelled to Northern Italy. Luckily, she hasn’t been to work since she arrived home as she self isolated. It’s rumoured her partner is infected too but hasn’t been confirmed. A tad worrying that’s she is so young.
 
Well my husband does not work in a medical,just an office, a cleaner told him yesterday, they have had multiple hand gels go walkabout this week.
 
Despite the fact that soap and water work just as well. Hand gels are designed to kill bacteria, not viruses. Soap washes viruses off down the drain if you do it properly. Incidentally, soap also disrupts bacterial cell walls. It’s a bit like the current advert for Listerine mouthwash- kills 99.9% of oral germs. That remaining percentage is viruses, despite the fact that Listerine was actually developed as a toilet cleaner. Don’t believe what handwash manufacturers tell you - it’s all guff.
 
Well I’m not 60, but I have thought that I won’t be pressing too hard for an appointment to chase up new pump options while al, this is going on. I think they’ve enough to deal with already!
 
Despite the fact that soap and water work just as well. Hand gels are designed to kill bacteria, not viruses. Soap washes viruses off down the drain if you do it properly. Incidentally, soap also disrupts bacterial cell walls. It’s a bit like the current advert for Listerine mouthwash- kills 99.9% of oral germs. That remaining percentage is viruses, despite the fact that Listerine was actually developed as a toilet cleaner. Don’t believe what handwash manufacturers tell you - it’s all guff.
Hand gel doesn’t kill viruses in the traditional sense but if it’s over 60% alcohol it does destroy the lipid layer on them in much the way that soap does. It’s not as effective as soap and water as it doesn’t then wash it away (plus people tend not to ‘wash’ their hands with sanitiser for as long) but it does have some efficacy. If I was out and about in public I would use it as in the WHO guidelines.
 
As I am well over 60, I can assure everyone that the only social interaction I will be doing is going to the Rovers, taking the family to a Mothers Day lunch at Northcote Manor,* and welcoming the Ocado delivery man. I promise to wash my hands after all these dangerous interactions, none of which will be crowded.

*That's if I can manoeuvre my wheelchair past all the Bentleys, Range Rovers and Porsche Cayennes
Don't go hugging every one if Rovers score
Carol
 
I am at present watching the Live Health Comitte in the Commons questioning the Chief Medical Officer. He has stated that although the elderly are more vulnerable, it is worth stating that the evidence is that a still larger portion do recover.
He has also clarified that the retired Doctors who could be invited back would be those that have retired in the last 3 years, as it would be less problems getting them deregistered. They were not going to be compulsory required to return.
 
I am at present watching the Live Health Comitte in the Commons questioning the Chief Medical Officer. He has stated that although the elderly are more vulnerable, it is worth stating that the evidence is that a still larger portion do recover.
He has also clarified that the retired Doctors who could be invited back would be those that have retired in the last 3 years, as it would be less problems getting them deregistered. They were not going to be compulsory required to return.

I've just started another thread......
 
I was thinking that the NHS may ask retired staff to return and help out. Um....would they be over 60 and in the compromised group?
 
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