Confused newly diagnosed Type 2

[Ralph-YK]

I was out & about & absolutely starving. The only place I could find was Gregg's. Found a chicken roll with wholemeal seeded. 2 hours after I was 9.6! I was shocked.

What was the difference though? What did you start at?

 

[gwalmsley]

...I tend to stick to High protein bread...

High protein bread?

 

[Mark Parrott]

What was the difference though? What did you start at?

Think it was about 5 3.

 

[Mark Parrott]

High protein bread?

Think Bubbs is referring to the high protein rolls sold at Lidl.

 

[Ljc]

I believe Tesco sell some too but ve never tried it.

 

[Bubbsie]

High protein bread?

Several Brans gwalmsley...I buy

Think Bubbs is referring to the high protein rolls sold at Lidl.

Never been able to try those Mark...no Lidl here...using the Tesco high protein bread...Warburton also produce one...althought that is harder formeto source...usually buy that when online shopping.

 

[Bubbsie]

High protein bread?

HI gwalmsley...I use high protein bread...lower in carbs...Tesco produce one...also Warburton have a high protein bread/rolls (usually get this when shopping online...otherwise difficult to find it here)...using the Tesco one at the moment...comes in two sizes...tastes good too...Burgen Bread is another favourite...but...of course bread can be a bit of a lottery...some here do fine on wholemeal...sour dough...bread made with spelt flour...those are not great for me...always spike my BGs...worth giving the high protein a try.

 

[PinkGrapefruit]

This is why I still don't eat bread :-(

I was out & about & absolutely starving. The only place I could find was Gregg's. Found a chicken roll with wholemeal seeded. 2 hours after I was 9.6! I was shocked.

 

[gwalmsley]

Couldn't do any exercise or testing during the day as I was in a meeting on a client site all day.

Got a Tesco Chicken, Bacon & stuffing on brown sandwich for lunch about 2:30. Just got home and tested and reading 8.6, which seems high over 3 hours later. Label said 48g carb.

 

[gwalmsley]

Panic over!

I was in a rush and washed my hands in the kitchen and dried them on a used tea towel. Result 8.6

Washed hands in bathroom and dried with fresh towel, result 5.6!

Have to be so careful. Moral of this story, don't dry with a used towel then test 🙂

Couldn't do any exercise or testing during the day as I was in a meeting on a client site all day.

Got a Tesco Chicken, Bacon & stuffing on brown sandwich for lunch about 2:30. Just got home and tested and reading 8.6, which seems high over 3 hours later. Label said 48g carb.

 

[gwalmsley]

Got a reading of 5.0 just before lunch, very pleased 🙂

 

[Ljc]

Panic over!

I was in a rush and washed my hands in the kitchen and dried them on a used tea towel. Result 8.6

Washed hands in bathroom and dried with fresh towel, result 5.6!

Have to be so careful. Moral of this story, don't dry with a used towel then test 🙂

Phew. I've made a similar mistake.

 

[Maz2]

We are legion!...

I do think that those who find their way to this forum may be more disposed to question received opinion, and have experiences which lead us to do so. I have also encountered a number of people who simply refuse to take any action to control or manage, including a man I have known for some years who told me that "the State" can take care of him when he needs it (!), and the "healthy eater" who believes that yogurt (with a Cadbury's Flake in it) is part of a suitable diet. (He refuses HBa1c's.)

OMG. I have a friend who was diagnosed a couple of years ago. We went out for a meal a few months ago and he took his Metformin whilst we were then and then proceeded to have a huge portion of chips, a dessert, a liqueur coffee, then when we got back to his house he had a chocolate liqueur and started on the chocolates. He said that "the doctors just try to frighten you." I pointed out that they are not frightening you but telling you what can happen if you do not keep control. He said that it will be 20 years before he gets complications (he is 65 now) and would worry if he was 20 odd but is not going to make his life a misery at 65.

I was diagnosed pre-diabetic last year and am trying to prevent diabetes. I don't think my life is a "misery" because I cannot eat loads of carbs and desserts every day and when I go out. I do have a dessert sometimes when I go out but I am just trying to use some common sense. I don't see the point in having complications for the sake of it because you can't be bothered.

So many people like my friend Gary have had diabetes for years before they found out and were not given a chance to prevent it so I consider as I have been given a chance I should use it. Whether it works or not is another story but I will continue trying.

Have started testing as know from here that everyone reacts differently to the same food. Not done it this week though as have a stinking cold and cough and read that it can mean high readings sometimes due to the body fighting viruses.

 

[Maz2]

Having done a bit of research it must have been the baguette. Next to no carbs in Brie or the Salmon. I estimated the bread content to be about the same as the 2 thick bread slices I have for breakfast, but the carbs must have been a lot higher. You live and learn (avoiding the canteen bread in the future) and I immediately went out and did a mile walk to burn some of it off. On a train at the moment but I will test again when I get home.

No dressing, just dry rocket leaves.

About bread. I tried the bread that is in the "recipes" section from Mark Parrott. Delicious and much lower carb. Can recommend it.

 

[Maz2]

Panic over!

I was in a rush and washed my hands in the kitchen and dried them on a used tea towel. Result 8.6

Washed hands in bathroom and dried with fresh towel, result 5.6!

Have to be so careful. Moral of this story, don't dry with a used towel then test 🙂

That is interesting as I was using a "used" tea towel at the weekend. Must remember about using a new one as here is a considerable difference in your readings.

 

[gwalmsley]

So following my 5.0 reading at lunch time, I had a quite 'carby' dinner (a ready meal that needed using up - I know, I know) that was 73g of Carbs. Reading before was 6.0, 1 hour 7.6, 2 hour 8.5, so all within the NICE guideline numbers, so quite pleased with it.

I am finding that I may test at 5 something before going to bed, but then be 6-7 in the morning. Is this normal? I would have thought the number would go down while sleeping as you are 'fasting' or is something else going on?

Thanks once again for everybody's support and information.

 

[gwalmsley]

I was sat next to someone at work on Monday who had just be diagnosed as pre-diabetes (it is all hot desking so get different people every day). I was explaining how I was coping with it and all the great advice and support I was getting here. Her response was pretty much:

• I am not much of a cook, I couldn't do that, I eat out or get a takeaway every night
• I am going to cut back on the drinking and only do it during the week (so 5 days a week, not 7)
• I love my pasta, couldn't give that up

My guess is soon she will be going from pre-diabetes to diabetes and wondering why.

OMG. I have a friend who was diagnosed a couple of years ago. We went out for a meal a few months ago and he took his Metformin whilst we were then and then proceeded to have a huge portion of chips, a dessert, a liqueur coffee, then when we got back to his house he had a chocolate liqueur and started on the chocolates. He said that "the doctors just try to frighten you." I pointed out that they are not frightening you but telling you what can happen if you do not keep control. He said that it will be 20 years before he gets complications (he is 65 now) and would worry if he was 20 odd but is not going to make his life a misery at 65.

I was diagnosed pre-diabetic last year and am trying to prevent diabetes. I don't think my life is a "misery" because I cannot eat loads of carbs and desserts every day and when I go out. I do have a dessert sometimes when I go out but I am just trying to use some common sense. I don't see the point in having complications for the sake of it because you can't be bothered.

So many people like my friend Gary have had diabetes for years before they found out and were not given a chance to prevent it so I consider as I have been given a chance I should use it. Whether it works or not is another story but I will continue trying.

Have started testing as know from here that everyone reacts differently to the same food. Not done it this week though as have a stinking cold and cough and read that it can mean high readings sometimes due to the body fighting viruses.

 

[Ljc]

So following my 5.0 reading at lunch time, I had a quite 'carby' dinner (a ready meal that needed using up - I know, I know) that was 73g of Carbs. Reading before was 6.0, 1 hour 7.6, 2 hour 8.5, so all within the NICE guideline numbers, so quite pleased with it.

I am finding that I may test at 5 something before going to bed, but then be 6-7 in the morning. Is this normal? I would have thought the number would go down while sleeping as you are 'fasting' or is something else going on?
Thanks once again for everybody's support and information.

Hi. Do you test immediately after getting up or say after a shower or loo trip, if so try testing when you wake up.
Or It could be Dawn phenomenon (DP) when our helpful liver Starts trickling out glucose preparing us for a day of hunting and gathering. With some people it does it whether we need it or not 😡
Some on here suffer feet on floor syndrome , this is when you sit up in bed put your feet on the floor and you BGs shoots up , possibly for the same reason ad DP.
Some of us are so lucky and have both 😡

 

[Northerner]

I was sat next to someone at work on Monday who had just be diagnosed as pre-diabetes (it is all hot desking so get different people every day). I was explaining how I was coping with it and all the great advice and support I was getting here. Her response was pretty much:

• I am not much of a cook, I couldn't do that, I eat out or get a takeaway every night
• I am going to cut back on the drinking and only do it during the week (so 5 days a week, not 7)
• I love my pasta, couldn't give that up

My guess is soon she will be going from pre-diabetes to diabetes and wondering why.

I think this is the problem with a lot of people - they are given the warning but don't take it seriously, and claim they could 'never' do things or stop eating certain things They think it can never happen to them, but this is one of the insidious things about diabetes - it creeps up on you slowly so there's no sudden 'shock' to the system, except maybe when a diagnosis comes along, and then they think 'why didn't I heed the warnings?' Or maybe not, and continue as though nothing has changed

The frustrating thing is that diabetes is one of the few potentially really serious conditions that people can take a very active part in managing - as you are doing - and it doesn't mean giving up everything you like to eat, drink and do, it just takes some knowledge and application. Human beings are very adaptable, but only if they decide to change 🙄

 

[Bubbsie]

So following my 5.0 reading at lunch time, I had a quite 'carby' dinner (a ready meal that needed using up - I know, I know) that was 73g of Carbs. Reading before was 6.0, 1 hour 7.6, 2 hour 8.5, so all within the NICE guideline numbers, so quite pleased with it.

I am finding that I may test at 5 something before going to bed, but then be 6-7 in the morning. Is this normal? I would have thought the number would go down while sleeping as you are 'fasting' or is something else going on?

Thanks once again for everybody's support and information.

gwalmsey...the waking figures are usually the last to 'come down'...I now have a small snack before bed...no carbs...a little protein...handful of nuts (walnuts mainly)...even taken to having the odd elicit KitKat (wouldn't recommend that)...working for me so far...helps convince my liver it doesn't need to pump out extra glucose to get me ready for the day ahead...since I have a little energy reserved...may not work for everyone...but...worth a try.