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Carbs or sugar recording

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Janet McGee

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I’ve noticed members count carbs. I have been counting sugar.

Can some one tell me if carb counting is a better option than sugar?
If so why?

Thank you.
 
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I’ve noticed members count carbs. I have been counting sugar.

Can some one tell me if carb counting is a better option than sugar?
If so why?

Thank you.

Sugars are carbs, but not all carbs are sugars. Your body converts carbs into glucose, a type of sugar. So what you want to count is carbs, not just sugar.
 
Hello @Janet McGee , welcome to the forum.
It is some carbohydrates that our bodies can no longer cope well with, they turn to glucose the fuel our hody runs on very very quickly and build up in our blood as they can’t get into the cells that need them easily or at all. that’s why we count carbohydrates.
Sugar is a very simple carb but in the uk it is already included in the total carbohydrates in the nutritional label on the back of packets .

As you have T2 it’s likely that you reducing sugar intake may have helped a bit, but it is really only a small part of the story.
The main ones you need to reduce or cut out are firstly the starchy carbohydrates as they turn to syrup quickly once inside us
Potatoes, though some can cope with a couple I’d small new potatoes
Bread , their are substitutes some buy a high protein bread or the industrially made Bergen (SP) Soya and linseed
I hate the stuff.
Rice , cauli rice is nice
Pasta.
Things made with flour ,some use other types of flour such as almond flour .
Breakfast cereals are often high carb
though considered healthy fruit juice and smoothies are not good for us
Fruit can be problematic with some of us, anything with berry as part of its name is often tolerated better.

We have no problems with protein and so long as you don’t have a medical condition that precludes it, good fats, so dairy need not be cut out.

I hope you find the above helpful.

Ask all the questions you need to about diabetes, we’ll do our best to help.

Do you have a glucose meter so you can test how the various carbohydrates affect affect you, as we are all different in this respect.
 
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Hello @Janet McGee, and welcome to the forum,

As you will see there is a great deal of help and information available here, and @Ljc and @Eddy Edson have answered your question with some very helpful explanation of how many of us deal with carbohydrates.

If you would like to know more then have a look at Maggie Davey's letter, which shows how this lady approached dealing with Type 2 and there is more information on useful-links-for-people-new-to-diabetes (scroll down to type 2.)

If you want to measure your progress, then as @Ljc says a glucose monitor is a way to find this out,
It will help if you can find out which foods cause your blood sugars to rise. Eventually you can arrive at a lists of food that lets you maintain good blood sugar levels, that you enjoy eating, and fits your lifestyle in terms of how much preparation and cooking you like and have time to do.
SD Gluco Navii is one of the cheaper options .
Look at https://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/test-review-adjust.html for information on how to test.

Please keep posting and ask any questions and if you wish tell us how it is going for you.
 
Thanks Eddy.

As Lin says, your body does different things with different carbs, with different impacts on your blood glucose. Everybody's different! The only way to get a really good handle on which foods do what to you is to get a BG monitor and test yourself before and after eating.
 
Hello @Janet McGee, and welcome to the forum,

As you will see there is a great deal of help and information available here, and @Ljc and @Eddy Edson have answered your question with some very helpful explanation of how many of us deal with carbohydrates.

If you would like to know more then have a look at Maggie Davey's letter, which shows how this lady approached dealing with Type 2 and there is more information on useful-links-for-people-new-to-diabetes (scroll down to type 2.)

If you want to measure your progress, then as @Ljc says a glucose monitor is a way to find this out,
It will help if you can find out which foods cause your blood sugars to rise. Eventually you can arrive at a lists of food that lets you maintain good blood sugar levels, that you enjoy eating, and fits your lifestyle in terms of how much preparation and cooking you like and have time to do.
SD Gluco Navii is one of the cheaper options .
Look at https://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com/2006/10/test-review-adjust.html for information on how to test.

Please keep posting and ask any questions and if you wish tell us how it is going for you.

Thank you so much for your informative reply Toucan. I’ll do some thinking and get back to you if that’s ok.
 
As Lin says, your body does different things with different carbs, with different impacts on your blood glucose. Everybody's different! The only way to get a really good handle on which foods do what to you is to get a BG monitor and test yourself before and after eating.
I hadn’t realised that. Thanks so much. Will be back when I’ve had a think if that’s ok.
 
I'm afraid that counting all the carbohydrates is the only option - starches and sugars are what a type two can't cope with, so if you were told that only the sugar is important, you were misinformed, but that isn't unusual I'm sorry to say.
 
Can I ask what the daily recommended amount of carbs is? Lowest to highest.
Is it related to body weight?

Thanks
 
Hello @Janet McGee
Opinions vary on this, but here is a table that I use for guidance.

More than 50g /day to provide essential glucose for the brain - (but some forum members find they need to be lower than this)
50-100 g/day sweet spot for weight loss
100-150g/day maintenance zone

We all have different levels of tolerance to carbs so how much an individual needs to maintain satisfactory blood glucose levels varies enormously. It is due to a complex number of factors.

The best way to find out what it is for you is by testing with a meter, and using your morning fasting reading as the main guide.

Hope this helps
 
The amount of carbs to eat in a day is a bit less than you can cope with and maintain normal blood glucose levels. It is not something which can be predicted, but needs to be discovered by experimentation.
My limit at the moment is 40 gm per day, which means I don't need medication.
 
Hello @Janet McGee
Opinions vary on this, but here is a table that I use for guidance.

More than 50g /day to provide essential glucose for the brain - (but some forum members find they need to be lower than this)
50-100 g/day sweet spot for weight loss
100-150g/day maintenance zone

We all have different levels of tolerance to carbs so how much an individual needs to maintain satisfactory blood glucose levels varies enormously. It is due to a complex number of factors.

The best way to find out what it is for you is by testing with a meter, and using your morning fasting reading as the main guide.

Hope this helps

I think it is important to remember that the body can manufacture glucose, so we don't need to eat 50g carbs to get 50g glucose to keep our brains ticking over. I believe something like 40% of protein is also broken down into glucose and about 10% of fat, so this is why people can easily survive on just 20g carbs a day.
 
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