Carbohydrates

[everydayupsanddowns]

For example, lettuce, houmus, Quinoa, oats, and even dates... These are all high carb and low GI. Even wholegrain rice is good to eat in modest quantities, especially alongside vegetables and suchlike.

Not sure many would count lettuce as high carb @Leaderofthecats 😛

Dates, as a dried fruit, would be quite high risk for many members here too I think. They certainly would be for me 🙂

But that’s the beauty of a BG monitor isn’t it - you don’t have to rely on assumptions, reported GI, or to feel that anything is ‘off limits’ @Nayshiftin

Just check with your BG meter immediately before eating and again 2hrs later a couple of times for a meal or type/amount of carbs to see the effect on your BG. If you stick with choices that consistently only raise your BG by 2-3mmol/L then your overall levels will gradually begin to come down into range, and you will still be able to eat as wide a variety of foods as possible.

Even things that you find send your BG skyrocketing can be accommodated every now and then.

Just put them in groups of ‘often’ ’sometimes’ ‘very rarely’ ‘almost never’ and ‘not worth the bother’. Where the last category is where you consign things that are so disruptive to your BG that you don’t really enjoy them any more 🙂

 

[Bloden]

How are getting on @Nayshiftin? There’s some great advice on this thread from peeps with lots of experience. I hope you’re beginning to feel more upbeat.

 

[Drummer]

Lettuce is usually no problem - but rice of any sort, houmus, quinoa, oats and dates - I can't hold out much hope for normal blood glucose eating those, as type twos usually can't cope with high carb foods so they are best avoided.
Low GI is something that might work for other people, but my gut obviously never got the memo about slow digestion.

 

[Ljc]

Speaking as an insulin user who uses a Libre which gives continuous info on what my blood glucose levels are doing , I find that like @Drummer my digestion didn’t get the memo either. foods that are supposedly low GI with a couple of exceptions raise my BGs just as quickly as sugar would.

We are all different in how many and which carbs affect us, imo it’s best to eat to your meter, ie, if your glucose meter likes it, it’s fine , if not then either replace or reduce the culprit.

 

[rebrascora]

I'm the same. Low GI is no guarantee of anything. The glucose from porridge hits my blood stream within 20 mins of eating it and lentils and chickpeas seem to have more carbs than they indicate on the label which is very disappointing as I like all those foods

 

[SB2015]

How is it going @Nayshiftin ?

We each need to find out what works for us. Testing and keeping records will help with this, as you can then look back for patterns. I used to eat porridge but having seen what happens to my BG afterwards I have decided to ditch that (most of the time - A steaming pot of porridge at a BnB is too uch to resist sometimes!!)

As you learn mor about the different foods you can then adapt your diet and/or portion sizes. There are loads of good recipes on here in the foods section. I find this idea very helpful when looking for lower carb options.
Things that grow
- under the ground are high carb (potatoes, parsnips, ...)
- above the ground are medium carb (peas, beans, ...)
- on the ground are low carb (lettuce, celery, ...)

Let us know how you get on.

 

[rebrascora]

I wonder if this You Tube video of a TED talk might provide some inspiration for you. I found it recently and thought of you. Since you have a lot of weight to lose but seem hampered by the low fat advice we have lived with all our lives, I thought this information from a doctor who specializes in helping obese diabetic patients might be useful...

You tube Ted talk Dr Sarah - Search Videos

www.bing.com

 

[Christy]

@rebrascora . I watched that clip yesterday. Very helpful. Plain talking. Good positive message for those thinking of going down the lower carb route.

 

[Inka]

Or, as the OP has mentioned carbs, how about one of the other diabetes reversal/control diets that include some carbs eg the low fat plant-based diets of Neal Barnard and Joel Fuhrman?

They’re good for weight loss too eg this man, one of many testimonials:


https://www.drfuhrman.com/success-stories/1273/scotts-story

.

 

[Nayshiftin]

How is it going @Nayshiftin ?

We each need to find out what works for us. Testing and keeping records will help with this, as you can then look back for patterns. I used to eat porridge but having seen what happens to my BG afterwards I have decided to ditch that (most of the time - A steaming pot of porridge at a BnB is too uch to resist sometimes!!)

As you learn mor about the different foods you can then adapt your diet and/or portion sizes. There are loads of good recipes on here in the foods section. I find this idea very helpful when looking for lower carb options.
Things that grow
- under the ground are high carb (potatoes, parsnips, ...)
- above the ground are medium carb (peas, beans, ...)
- on the ground are low carb (lettuce, celery, ...)

Let us know how you get on.

Thank you

 

[Nayshiftin]

I wonder if this You Tube video of a TED talk might provide some inspiration for you. I found it recently and thought of you. Since you have a lot of weight to lose but seem hampered by the low fat advice we have lived with all our lives, I thought this information from a doctor who specializes in helping obese diabetic patients might be useful...

You tube Ted talk Dr Sarah - Search Videos

www.bing.com

Going to watch this and will see. I feel awful to be honest

 

[Nayshiftin]

Going to watch this and will see. I feel awful to be honest

Its just pro the no carb which I have been told not to go down that route here by the helpline and the GP

 

[rebrascora]

Diabetes UK and the NHS are unfortunately stuck with the old school low fat advice, which means that as organizations, they will actively discourage a low carb, higher fat way of eating.
The Dr in the video is not recommending No Carb, just low carb, higher fat. It is up to you what you decide to do. I was very wary of going against the low fat NHS advice, but I am so pleased I did as I feel stronger and fitter and slimmer than I have for 20+ years eating very low carb and more fat and I enjoy my food and I don't feel hungry, whereas I used to be craving all the time when I ate more carbs and always thinking about what I could eat next and one of something was never enough! I love the fact that I am now in control and I don't need any willpower because I don't get the cravings.

 

[Nayshiftin]

I was like you, all the things I loved were out, but it has not worked out that way I eat lots of bread but had to make Keto bread in my beadmaker, it's better than any supermarket bread by far, so I CAN eat bread. It all takes time to settle into it but honestly you don't have to feel hungry it's lots of those things you love that is making you hungry so take your time make small changes and it all comes together. Some things I just had to stop eating like Spuds/chips/pasta/porridge but some can eat these in moderation so it's not all bad that is only in your head other foods are just as nice I can't wait to cook my dinner or lunch they are so tasty.

You will find your way just one change at a time then it wont feel like a chore you might (Like me) end up enjoying it.

So how do you make this keto bread. I got rye sourdough and it’s upped me by 4points I was 5.2 before lunch snd 9 after I could cry. I am trying to weigh measure have within cal limit and nutrient but then this happens . I getting scared to eat.

 

[Nayshiftin]

What thread will tell me what to eat. I do not want meat and vegetables . I’m not a meat lover

 

[adrian1der]

What thread will tell me what to eat. I do not want meat and vegetables . I’m not a meat lover

Lots of ideas here

What did you eat yesterday?

It can be helpful sometimes to know what sort of things people are eating, as it might give some ideas for a more varied diet. So, I'll start off with what I ate yesterday: Breakfast - 1 slice buttered Burgen toast (my breakfast every day, I don't like to run with too much in my stomach)...

forum.diabetes.org.uk

 

[Nayshiftin]

Lots of ideas here

What did you eat yesterday?

It can be helpful sometimes to know what sort of things people are eating, as it might give some ideas for a more varied diet. So, I'll start off with what I ate yesterday: Breakfast - 1 slice buttered Burgen toast (my breakfast every day, I don't like to run with too much in my stomach)...

forum.diabetes.org.uk

Thank you

 

[Drummer]

What thread will tell me what to eat. I do not want meat and vegetables . I’m not a meat lover

Unfortunately meat and vegetables are a really easy way to eat low carb, but ordinary bread is high carb - hence the readings after eating a slice.
dishes such as cauliflower cheese, made with just cauliflower and cheese, stirfries, curries, salads, stews are all quite tasty - what are your usual sources of protein if you don't eat meat?

 

[Nayshiftin]

How are getting on @Nayshiftin? There’s some great advice on this thread from peeps with lots of experience. I hope you’re beginning to feel more upbeat.

Yes I’m out of the low muldrums ive been swinging high low all day. Like 5 and 9 then 6 to 11 after tonight meal which was omelette and salad do I can work it out on good and the glucose meter. I’d expect with the rye bread . But not with the omelette as it reduces it in the morning but then I’ve stopped medication today . So it could be that. Anyways I’ll survive.

 

[Nayshiftin]

Unfortunately meat and vegetables are a really easy way to eat low carb, but ordinary bread is high carb - hence the readings after eating a slice.
dishes such as cauliflower cheese, made with just cauliflower and cheese, stirfries, curries, salads, stews are all quite tasty - what are your usual sources of protein if you don't eat meat?

There is a lot of protein in nuts. Cheese. Lentils and other things. It comes up on my fitness pal. I like thingc like beans on toast .however omlette has raise my tonight and nothing in it should have mushroom snd bell pepper has been fine. I am becoming more chilled now i have stopped the meds.