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Carb Counting...

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i know from reading various posts that a lot of you guys count your carbs. i'm just wondering if anyone has managed to work out what carbs are in takeaways? 😛 lol. i always find my levels go wonky when eating a chinese etc so would really prefer to count properly! xx
 
I've only really managed with trail and error to work out takeaways. I know what it should be from carb counting books etc but that never seems to correlate with what happens to my bg when I have them. I'm tend to be a bit of a creature of habit though and have the same things from the same places so now pretty much know what to expect and how much insulin I need etc!
 
I can't exactly count the carbs from takeaways, it's more of a guestimate. I usually work out what i think I would need and add on a bit more, because takeaways seem to have more carbs than if I had the same thing at home.
I also find that takeaways are high fat, chinese, indian, fish and chips, pizza etc so they digest slowly and lend themselves better to a split bolus.
Like aymes I also tend to eat the same dishes
 
Hi bethany

If you have been on DAFNE there is a lot of portion weighing and counting there, and you are given a book with the average weights and carbs in. If not you can buy a similar book from any book shop listing carbs, since so many count them for Atkins etc. I guess it is all about practice, at first you need to weigh things a lot, maybe make your own rice so you can weigh it and get used to the portion size you need. Then when you get takeaways, don't eat them out of the box, measure the portion onto a plate (smaller plates trick you into thinking you have more food, if you think the portion is small) and put the rest away in the fridge for the next day. Takeaways are usually in very large portions, far more than you need. Indian is especially bad since it is full of sugar and cream, so even if you restrict the rice, naan and poppadoms you still eat a lot, and then there are the lassi drinks and desserts. Pizzas are pretty bad but since they come in slices it is easier to measure. Then as aymes says, keep checking your BG regularly so you get used to the effects of different sorts of foods and how much and when you should have your insulin.

Although takeaways are nice, my biggest piece of advice is not to have them very often. It really is not much effort to make some rice, you can buy readymade sauces if you don't want to make them, and you can add exactly what you want. Or if you like pizza you can buy bases and add your own toppings. Or it is a little tricky to make your own chips if you arent used to it, but they taste much nicer if made from real potatoes and cooked in the oven rather than deep fried. Plus for all these things you can weigh and count exactly what is in it and use proper fresh ingredients.
 
I am the same as sofaraway - guestimate and add a bit - especially for chinese as I think they add a lot of sugar in. I tend to find good indian food does not have quite the adverse affect. I do always have to check my sugars a lot more after takeaways. And although I can can cook it all myself - it is such a treat now and then!
 
I know nothing about carb counting and have to confess I'm a little sceptical - if I eat a lot of high carb foods like pasta, potatoes and rice, plus veg, my levels are fine. Does anyone have a link to an introduction to carb counting, and what do you have instead of carbs?
 
ikey, carb counting isn't the same as resticting carbs or low carbing. It's a way of matching insulin dose to carbs eaten, whether that by 20g or 200g. For people on a basal bolus insulin system this is really important.

I see you are a type 2, if you are not on insulin, then carb counting would help you of you were limiting the amount of carbs you are eating. If you don't have problems with your blood sugars when eating high carb foods then you may not need to carb count. Alot of type 2's find eating lower amounts of carb and increasing protein and fat gives them better control. But as with everything in diabetes you need to find what works for you.
 
ikey, carb counting isn't the same as resticting carbs or low carbing. It's a way of matching insulin dose to carbs eaten, whether that by 20g or 200g. For people on a basal bolus insulin system this is really important.

I see you are a type 2, if you are not on insulin, then carb counting would help you of you were limiting the amount of carbs you are eating. If you don't have problems with your blood sugars when eating high carb foods then you may not need to carb count. Alot of type 2's find eating lower amounts of carb and increasing protein and fat gives them better control. But as with everything in diabetes you need to find what works for you.

Ah right, I'm with you - apologies for sounding sceptical, as I stated,I obviously didn't grasp what carb counting is all about!
 
I posted ref the book I use for carb counting in the thread on alcohol.
The Calorie and Carb fat bible 2008.
 
There is a great book Carbs and Cals that not only covers the carbs in takeaway food but also shows pics of portion sizes. It's also available as an iPhone app. I find it really good.
 
You can weigh the food in a takeaway if eating at home, the total carbs will always be a rough guess at best but under bolusing is far better than over bolusing and correcting a hypo later, if necessary a correction dose can be administered later in the day if needed.
 
with the indian it will be rice and nan bread with the most carbs, so 90g for a large nan and 70g for the standard 300g rice tubs you get, and maybe 10g for any sauces that the meat is in......

if you can find some book, like carbs and cals, I personally use the DAFNE carb book, which I can provide in PDF.........

its always a stab in the dark to be honest, but you can try your best, its a treat, or should be.....lol, so its OK to have a more relaxed attitude to take aways......
 
i know from reading various posts that a lot of you guys count your carbs. i'm just wondering if anyone has managed to work out what carbs are in takeaways? 😛 lol. i always find my levels go wonky when eating a chinese etc so would really prefer to count properly! xx

Hi bethany, I have a carb counting booklet which I was given from the Carb Counting course at my hospital last year. I hope these will be helpful :-

CP's Carbohydrate Portions

Indian Poppadom 1 fried 13g 1/2 cp
" Samosa Med 70g 1 1/2
" Naan Large 7
" Meat Tikka Main Course 200g 1
" Vindaloo, etc Main course 350g 1
Indian Chinese Boiled rice Takeaway foil tray 9
Sweet and Sour pork Ave portion 300g 3
Chow Mein Ave portion 6
Small pancake Roll 55g 1
Prawn Crackers 70g 3 1/2
Egg fried Rice 350g 7 1/2
Chickhen fried Rice 350g 7 1/2
Doner Kebab Small 3
Pizza eg Domino's 1 Slice 2

Have you been told your ratio of Insulin to Carbs? as it's different for everyone. Mine is 1 unit =10 carbs.
Best wishes Sheena
 
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Good afternoon everyone! 🙂

Just to point out that this is a very old thread that has been brought back up to the top. The information is excellent as always but the original postees might not still be around to read it.
However, I have pasted and copied the list you've just given Sheena, it's really useful, thank you. I'm going to print it out and keep it. XXXXX
 
Good afternoon everyone! 🙂

Just to point out that this is a very old thread that has been brought back up to the top. The information is excellent as always but the original postees might not still be around to read it.
However, I have pasted and copied the list you've just given Sheena, it's really useful, thank you. I'm going to print it out and keep it. XXXXX

Hi glad it was useful to you, it's a handy little booklet and it was free 😉 If there's anything else then ask away 🙂 Sheena
 
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