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Breakfasts

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As a newcomer can anyone please tell me what you mean by GI and LADA as I have no idea what you are on about ?

I have recently got a blood/glucose meter and still trying to figure out what the results I am getting mean, the lowest I have got is 8.4 before breakfast which rises to 10 ~ 16 two hours later which seems a bit high, I have yet to speak to a nurse or doctor about this. I am due a revue at the end of June because the last one about two months ago was showing some high levels, since then I am attempting to lose some weight in the hope it will bring the readings down.
 
GI is glycaemic index - a measure of the amount of digestible carbs in food. LADA is a slow onset diabetes typically diagnosed later in life. It is often called type 1.5
 
g miller said:
I have recently got a blood/glucose meter and still trying to figure out what the results I am getting mean, the lowest I have got is 8.4 before breakfast which rises to 10 ~ 16 two hours later which seems a bit high, I have yet to speak to a nurse or doctor about this. I am due a revue at the end of June because the last one about two months ago was showing some high levels, since then I am attempting to lose some weight in the hope it will bring the readings down.
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Yes your numbers are bit high but with some modifications they will come down. Bringing them down slowly is better for you than reducing them quickly. Ideally you are looking for no more than a 3 point, and preferably a two point rise two hours after a meal. If you see more than this then have a think about what you ate and in particular the carb content. As your levels drop you will eventually be looking for no more than an 8.5 two hours post prandial.
 
There are four things that you can use to control your BG. First, try lowering the amount of carbs you eat. Not just sugars but starchy things (bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, sweet tropical fruit etc). Carbs are rapidly converted by the body into glucose. Secondly, exercise will also lower your BG. Even light/moderate exercise will help. Thirdly, if you need to, then loosing weight will also help. Of course, if you lower your carb intake and raise your exercise then the weight loss usually follows naturally. The final thing is medication
 
Thank you for the words of wisdom . You have said you make your own bread, can you tell me what flour you use please?
 
adrian1der said:
I make my own bread for the family and I don't use a bread making machine. Get your hands in and get kneading!
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What recipe do you adhere too? I’ll give it a go. I’ve got a kenwood chef do that kneads . I just seen keto bread for bread machines that’s all
 
Anitram said:
The Glycemic Index is used to measure how much a specific food increases your blood sugar levels. The higher the GI, the greater the effect on blood sugar levels. It's based on a scale of 0-100 where 100 is pure glucose.

Glycaemic index and diabetes

What is the glycaemic index? The glycaemic index (GI) tells us whether a food raises blood glucose levels quickly, moderately or slowly. This means it can be useful to help you manage your diabetes. Different carbohydrates are digested and absorbed at different rates, and GI is a ranking of how...
www.nhs.uk www.nhs.uk
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However lie Gi foods don’t always work for me. I am wondering if my sluggish gut keeps bits back then lets it go? A bit like having diverticulitis ??
 
Nayshiftin said:
Yes , I am going to go back to the GP and say . I’m guessing they will say about weight . However I am now aware when it’s rising as the headache well it’s not a thumper it’s a pressure oh I can’t explain but I sometimes say to my husband that’s not good and when the mmols show it too it’s hard to really not want to change.
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I wonder if your headaches are not actually diabetes related as sometimes misalignment in your neck can cause headaches and I have heard acupuncture can be helpful for headaches.
 
How about savoury low carb muffins? There's a whole long thread about them here, with variations on the original recipe for Stilton and Tomato. Feta with sundried tomatoes, strong cheddar and onion etc etc etc. Absolutely delicious, easy to make and only 1.5g carb each.
 
Julie Robson said:
Lidl sells a lovely round self cut brown Low GI bread which my husband who is the diabetic in the house loves .... toasted with pouched eggs
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Be warned though - it isn't low carb and it is no different to any other ordinary bread in the way it spikes me.
 
Drummer said:
Be warned though - it isn't low carb and it is no different to any other ordinary bread in the way it spikes me.
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Sadly me too, as it is very tasty.
Low GI doesn't work for everyone. It very much depends on your digestive system and gut biome.
 
I have a bread maker now - it was about £50 - more expensive ones can be found, but it is a good make and seems to work well. I tried it with ordinary bread and it worked very well.
I have wheat gluten, and other low carb baking ingredients, but I am still working on a recipe which makes a normal looking loaf.
 
Have you been having your toast plain or with protein/fat? Fat helps to slow down the absorption so one toast with eggs or cheese would have less impact on your blood sugar than two plain toast.
 
Well, I had it with peanut butter, that last time but usually, I just have marmite. I do have egg on toast but my favourite is tomatoes. I'll get over it. I fancy trying some of the muffins. Thanks For now I am stopping bread for a few days altogether to see what difference happens.
 
Pattidevans said:
How about savoury low carb muffins? There's a whole long thread about them here, with variations on the original recipe for Stilton and Tomato. Feta with sundried tomatoes, strong cheddar and onion etc etc etc. Absolutely delicious, easy to make and only 1.5g carb each.
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How did you get on with the Parmesan? I do not like Stilton but have had Parmesan and have some as I use that with my Aubergine and Courgette Parmesan bake. I am going to attempt but thinking will I waste my Parmesan. I'll need to get more tomatoes. Feta hmmm I could buy that too I shall see. Or was the strong cheddar above better I have just noticed?
 
Nayshiftin said:
Well, I had it with peanut butter, that last time but usually, I just have marmite. I do have egg on toast but my favourite is tomatoes. I'll get over it. I fancy trying some of the muffins. Thanks For now I am stopping bread for a few days altogether to see what difference happens.
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You could try cheese waffles aka 'chaffles' as a substitute for bread.
I use a similar mix of cheese and eggs to make pancakes which are a nice change some mornings.
 
Nayshiftin said:
How did you get on with the Parmesan? I do not like Stilton but have had Parmesan and have some as I use that with my Aubergine and Courgette Parmesan bake. I am going to attempt but thinking will I waste my Parmesan. I'll need to get more tomatoes. Feta hmmm I could buy that too I shall see. Or was the strong cheddar above better I have just noticed?
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When DSF was in it’s hey day, we used to have an annual meeting that involved a picnic. The muffins were popular with people bringing their own take on them, so I have tasted lots of varieties and the only ones I wasn’t keen on were the ones with pear in them as they were a bit “wet”. Feta and sun dried tomato are really nice if you don’t like stilton. Parmesan does work well, but don’t be stingy with it. Also use herbs... fresh basil works well, as does finely chopped fresh Rosemary. I haven’t made any for ages, but I think I will try Feta with fresh mint out.
 
Mint oh fabulous how yummy my favourite. Yes fresh herbs make a whole difference although I do use dried too. Chives are another lovely thing instead of onion my hubby loves those. I think this will be muffin weekend on our house. New ideas sometimes it’s just one change that makes one smile.
 
Let us know how you get on!
 
Nayshiftin said:
What recipe do you adhere too? I’ll give it a go. I’ve got a kenwood chef do that kneads . I just seen keto bread for bread machines that’s all
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I have some good recipes for keto bread. They can be made without a bread machine and if you have a kenwood you'll be fine. I'll pop back later (I just have a few minutes right now) and post the ones that can be made by hand. In fact making by hand can be better because you can make rolls and they are easier to portion and you can freeze them after making a batch which is very convenient.

My favourite breakfast is tomatoes and cheese on toast. I've learned to be happy with a small portion of tomatoes and be more generous with the cheese and along with keto bread it works fine for breakfast. Hang on in there and I'll be back later with the recipes and method etc xx You don't have to do without anything you like - you can just make them all with different ingredients and they will be as good or even nicer than the originals.
 
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