Breakfasts

[Nayshiftin]

Can folks help me out on things to try. I am so fed up with omelettes . Yoghurt and fruit / seeds / nuts. I tried Bergen bread soy and linseed and you get one slice and it’s a very much no go it does spike me very quickly . I’ve tried a milk loaf someone says as low ca and carbs are low in a slice . Wholemeal rye and sourdough but to be fair all are no good . So I will stop those now but that leaves my tomatoes on toast or mushroom or cheese as favourites out. Hubby refuses to let me buy bread online at £9.99 and a bread machine cost is put at the moment as I don’t work don’t get any benefits so loving on hubby. He pays for me to go Nordic walking with one to one trainer which is ace . I was pleased in the night and waking but one slice of Bergen and back over threshold .

 

[Julie Robson]

Lidl sells a lovely round self cut brown Low GI bread which my husband who is the diabetic in the house loves .... toasted with pouched eggs

 

[Leadinglights]

Can folks help me out on things to try. I am so fed up with omelettes . Yoghurt and fruit / seeds / nuts. I tried Bergen bread soy and linseed and you get one slice and it’s a very much no go it does spike me very quickly . I’ve tried a milk loaf someone says as low ca and carbs are low in a slice . Wholemeal rye and sourdough but to be fair all are no good . So I will stop those now but that leaves my tomatoes on toast or mushroom or cheese as favourites out. Hubby refuses to let me buy bread online at £9.99 and a bread machine cost is put at the moment as I don’t work don’t get any benefits so loving on hubby. He pays for me to go Nordic walking with one to one trainer which is ace . I was pleased in the night and waking but one slice of Bergen and back over threshold .

What sort of readings are you getting before and 2 hours after your breakfast which has included the chosen toast or bread. Try half a slice with the mushrooms, tomatoes or eggs. and test that.

 

[Nayshiftin]

Thanks it rises up 4 say from 7 to 11 mmols usually after Breakfast I go down too. It’s all crazy .

 

[Nayshiftin]

Lidl sells a lovely round self cut brown Low GI bread which my husband who is the diabetic in the house loves .... toasted with pouched eggs

No Lidl near me only Aldi about 6 miles away. Cambridge 10

 

[Leadinglights]

Thanks it rises up 4 say from 7 to 11 mmols usually after Breakfast I go down too. It’s all crazy .

I know it might seem like a lot of tests but might be worth testing at 1hr, 2hr,and 3 hr post meal. Just to see how you are processing the carbs you have.

 

[Nayshiftin]

I know so far rice and pasta are no good bug gave overcome that with celeriac for mash cauliflower for rice . Leeks or courgette are great for pasta sub. To be honest I loved and lived carbs really so that is hard. As I don’t eat meat . I’d be having risotto . Curry and sweet n sour with rice . Pasta veg dishes . And bfast was two Clive of toast n marmite the sandwich at lunch . I’m fed up with salad n omlette snd soups are almost gone as are stews and dumplings thank goodness . Carb addict . I miss my ginger nuts s as bad shortbread too . So it’s a huge change . I need more ideas to change to . Hubby continues and has no effect but for me it sure does not only with weight but when blood rise to 33 I felt ill. I sms little better if I can cut the anxiety that every rise above ten will lower .if I stop the goods that do it I have to win surely

 

[rebrascora]

I rather like black pudding, bacon, eggs and mushrooms on a bed of savoy cabbage.
A Nature Valley protein bar makes a good grab and go breakfast at just under 10g carbs.
Sometimes, like this morning, I just have a hard boiled egg or two with some mayonnaise.
No reason why you can't have a tuna salad for breakfast if you want or steak and salad or stuffed peppers. You don't have to have traditional breakfast food at breakfast time.
Personally I don't get bored having yoghurt and berries and seeds with a sprinkle of low carb granola for breakfast with my cup of coffee with cream but if I run out of any of those ingredients or need to use something else up or really fancy some black pudding as I sometimes do, I really enjoy the variety, but then happy to go back to my everyday yoghurt for the majority of the time.

Of course you don't have to have breakfast at all and some people find Intermittent Fasting (IF) helpful in losing weight. You may find you need to head out for a walk to take care of your Dawn Phenomenon though if you don't have breakfast or maybe just have a piece of cooked meat or some cheese or nuts.

 

[Leadinglights]

I rather like black pudding, bacon, eggs and mushrooms on a bed of savoy cabbage.
A Nature Valley protein bar makes a good grab and go breakfast at just under 10g carbs.
Sometimes, like this morning, I just have a hard boiled egg or two with some mayonnaise.
No reason why you can't have a tuna salad for breakfast if you want or steak and salad or stuffed peppers. You don't have to have traditional breakfast food at breakfast time.
Personally I don't get bored having yoghurt and berries and seeds with a sprinkle of low carb granola for breakfast with my cup of coffee with cream but if I run out of any of those ingredients or need to use something else up or really fancy some black pudding as I sometimes do, I really enjoy the variety, but then happy to go back to my everyday yoghurt for the majority of the time.

Of course you don't have to have breakfast at all and some people find Intermittent Fasting (IF) helpful in losing weight. You may find you need to head out for a walk to take care of your Dawn Phenomenon though if you don't have breakfast or maybe just have a piece of cooked meat or some cheese or nuts.

Nayshiftin says she doesn't eat meat so it does limit her options for low carb foods, I don't know about fish.
I do wonder why the things she is having are increasing her blood glucose levels by as much as 4mmol/l.

 

[rebrascora]

Nayshiftin says she doesn't eat meat so it does limit her options for low carb foods, I don't know about fish.
I do wonder why the things she is having are increasing her blood glucose levels by as much as 4mmol/l.

Yes, it wasn't until after I posted that I read she doesn't eat meat which does limit things and make dietary control much more difficult.

I have had a niggle in the back of my mind for a while that this may not be a straightforward Type 2 diagnosis with the responses to carbs that she is having.. Sometimes it takes longer for lifestyle changes to have the desired impact but I have increasingly wondered about LADA

 

[Nayshiftin]

I rather like black pudding, bacon, eggs and mushrooms on a bed of savoy cabbage.
A Nature Valley protein bar makes a good grab and go breakfast at just under 10g carbs.
Sometimes, like this morning, I just have a hard boiled egg or two with some mayonnaise.
No reason why you can't have a tuna salad for breakfast if you want or steak and salad or stuffed peppers. You don't have to have traditional breakfast food at breakfast time.
Personally I don't get bored having yoghurt and berries and seeds with a sprinkle of low carb granola for breakfast with my cup of coffee with cream but if I run out of any of those ingredients or need to use something else up or really fancy some black pudding as I sometimes do, I really enjoy the variety, but then happy to go back to my everyday yoghurt for the majority of the time.

Of course you don't have to have breakfast at all and some people find Intermittent Fasting (IF) helpful in losing weight. You may find you need to head out for a walk to take care of your Dawn Phenomenon though if you don't have breakfast or maybe just have a piece of cooked meat or some cheese or nuts.

Good ideas thanks

 

[Nayshiftin]

Yes, it wasn't until after I posted that I read she doesn't eat meat which does limit things and make dietary control much more difficult.

I have had a niggle in the back of my mind for a while that this may not be a straightforward Type 2 diagnosis with the responses to carbs that she is having.. Sometimes it takes longer for lifestyle changes to have the desired impact but I have increasingly wondered about LADA

Yes , I am going to go back to the GP and say . I’m guessing they will say about weight . However I am now aware when it’s rising as the headache well it’s not a thumper it’s a pressure oh I can’t explain but I sometimes say to my husband that’s not good and when the mmols show it too it’s hard to really not want to change.

 

[EllsBells]

I've increasingly moved from scrambled eggs with bacon or smoked salmon to yoghurt and berries - I rotate fruit so it can be a punnet of raspberries over a few days, then a punnet blueberries, sometimes cherries or the odd kiwi, frozen mixed berries etc. Even 80g melon seems to be ok for me.
In place of bread have you thought about something like ryvita? 1 crispbread is, I think, about 7g carbs.

 

[Nayshiftin]

Yes , I’ll have to try and be content.

 

[Leadinglights]

Good ideas thanks

I wonder if you need to be a bit more conservative and stick with the things which you know don't increase your levels to try to get things a bit more stable, I know it may be a bit boring but in the long run might help.
When a friend was diagnosed with coeliac many years age there was little information about what foods contained gluten so she had to have a very restricted range of foods and eat them for 3 consecutive meals to see if she was OK then she could add something else and do the same thing.

 

[EllsBells]

It's a massive change so really understandable you're feeling a bit fed up. I never enjoyed cereals particularly so it hasn't been such a hardship for me.

One way of looking at it is that with fruit restricted due to fructose content, having those fruits in the morning is enabling you to have some within your 5-9 a day target. I'm grateful for that.

 

[Nayshiftin]

I wonder if you need to be a bit more conservative and stick with the things which you know don't increase your levels to try to get things a bit more stable, I know it may be a bit boring but in the long run might help.
When a friend was diagnosed with coeliac many years age there was little information about what foods contained gluten so she had to have a very restricted range of foods and eat them for 3 consecutive meals to see if she was OK then she could add something else and do the same thing.

I had IBS in my early twenties and they did a gluten trial then but that started with plain rice and adding from there. I guess wheat probably does affect me. Funny enough then when I had fewer things it was most noticeable so you may be right. I did ask originally for more ideas for breakfast. One mentioned black pudding and bacon and things. So I guess I could have more egg tomato and mushroom. I did have yoghurt and almonds as a pudding. Somewhere I got it that melon was not good. Perhaps it's Mango, grapes and Pineapple we have to avoid completely. As I like milk too that is cut back and cream I would find too high calorie and really nothing for it. So the limit of milk and yoghurt each day as just having berries soon. Blueberries I thought were a no no too. I really need to get different list as the GI one is definitely not working

 

[adrian1der]

bread machine cost is put at the moment as I don’t work don’t get any benefits

I make my own bread for the family and I don't use a bread making machine. Get your hands in and get kneading!

 

[EllsBells]

I had IBS in my early twenties and they did a gluten trial then but that started with plain rice and adding from there. I guess wheat probably does affect me. Funny enough then when I had fewer things it was most noticeable so you may be right. I did ask originally for more ideas for breakfast. One mentioned black pudding and bacon and things. So I guess I could have more egg tomato and mushroom. I did have yoghurt and almonds as a pudding. Somewhere I got it that melon was not good. Perhaps it's Mango, grapes and Pineapple we have to avoid completely. As I like milk too that is cut back and cream I would find too high calorie and really nothing for it. So the limit of milk and yoghurt each day as just having berries soon. Blueberries I thought were a no no too. I really need to get different list as the GI one is definitely not working

Actually, thinking about it, there's a great recipe knocking around for breakfast muffins that you can batch cook and freeze. https://cafedelites.com/breakfast-egg-muffins-3-ways/. Or try stuffed field mushrooms or peppers? If you have the time, make up a shakshuka https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/healthy-shakshuka

There's nothing forbidden but maybe treat yourself to something exotic every once in a while. The recommended portion size is about 80g or one whole fruit (ie kiwi) which many of us can't handle in one go. There is nothing to say you can't have just 1/2 dozen grapes, 1/2 an apple or a slice of pineapple etc. Moderation is the key! Without testing, you'll not not know what you personally react to so, when your numbers are a bit more stable, knock yourself out experimenting! The GI list is only helpful up to a point - blueberries are definitely one of the better fruits to have.

 

[Leadinglights]

I had IBS in my early twenties and they did a gluten trial then but that started with plain rice and adding from there. I guess wheat probably does affect me. Funny enough then when I had fewer things it was most noticeable so you may be right. I did ask originally for more ideas for breakfast. One mentioned black pudding and bacon and things. So I guess I could have more egg tomato and mushroom. I did have yoghurt and almonds as a pudding. Somewhere I got it that melon was not good. Perhaps it's Mango, grapes and Pineapple we have to avoid completely. As I like milk too that is cut back and cream I would find too high calorie and really nothing for it. So the limit of milk and yoghurt each day as just having berries soon. Blueberries I thought were a no no too. I really need to get different list as the GI one is definitely not working

If you are cutting down on the carbohydrates then there is really no need not to have the full fat yoghurt or cream. If you want something low fat but still low carb then try Quark to have your berries with. With some of the other tropical fruits, yes they are high carb, but melon is on a par with strawberries so just watch your portion size.
If you eat fish then there are some options there, smoked salmon or haddock with scrambled egg.
You could try avocado mashed on a cracker.
I had just come across a recipe for a microwaved mug muffin from the Caldesi The Diabetes weight loss cookbook which looks easy and good. There are some good ideas in that book.