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Hi Caryn.

I don't really see a problem with this. It is a responsibility on the individual to make we're safe to drive and he, from what it says, drove despite not injecting or testing. WHatever he was doing, he was going to keel over sooner or later and he was being reckless in my opinion.

Rob
 
I agree with rob here the guy has killed someone because of hsi wrecklessness,he should know his condition so it was his fault.
 
Not a very good advert for those that do manage their diabetes really is it?
 
Not a very good advert for those that do manage their diabetes really is it?

But cases like this have to come to light to teach others not to make the same mistake,especially when it later came out he had not tested/medicated
 
Very true Steffie.
 
It may give a timely reminder to some who don't take things seriously. When you're driving, you cant pretend it doesn't exist.

Rob
 
The danger with any news story is that we are rarely aware of the full facts.
Whilst I agree that we have a duty of care whilst in control of a vehicle, we have to wonder why this individual fell into a coma? Was there some other influence? What warnings did he have?
If we believe in the British justice system, the penalty indicates that the driver was, indeed, culpable. If he was not, if he has been convicted unfairly, then he will have the stigma of a custodial sentence and publicity surrounding the news story to add to the emotional conflict of taking somebody else's life.
If, however, he was indeed completely to blame, then 3 years sounds quite lenient for manslaughter.
On a separate note, I'll keep my fingers crossed that this doesn't lead to a flurry of anti-diabetic legislation and/or insurance penalties.
Of course, the biggest losers in all of this are the deceased's family, with whom my sympathies lie.
 
Hi Caryn.

I don't really see a problem with this. It is a responsibility on the individual to make we're safe to drive and he, from what it says, drove despite not injecting or testing. WHatever he was doing, he was going to keel over sooner or later and he was being reckless in my opinion.

Rob

I agree he was incredibly reckless and I hope to god my son never gets in to this situation- I just felt the report was a bit of a blanket statement, with no explanantions. Felt it tarred everyone with diabetes with the same brush. Perhaps I am too sensitive.
I feel extremley sad for the family of the gentleman who died.
I do also wonder about the support or lack of support for young people with T1...
just my opinion....
 
Yes, I too think the reporting is spot on - they are just reporting the facts.

Personally I think far more diabetics should be banned from driving, I hear people talking about having hypos behind the wheel all the time - it's just so wrong.
 
I agree, the reporting seems fine to me. I didn't feel tarred with the same brush after reading. They explained he didn't 'medicate' properly or check his sugars before driving. If he had no hypo awareness then he shouldn't have been driving in the first place. So if he did have hypo awareness he should have pulled over. I read too often of people talking about going hypo at the wheel. Some of them not even pulling over, just carrying on home. Really does worry me that people don't realise they need to pull over for everyones safety not just theirs.

As far as support goes. I think there is quite a lot out there, you just have to look. There's only so much your DSN and team can tell you. I understand that some people get worse treatment from their team, and don't get the support they need even when they ask for it, but I think in general if you need support you can find it if you look.
 
I agree, the reporting seems fine to me. I didn't feel tarred with the same brush after reading. They explained he didn't 'medicate' properly or check his sugars before driving. If he had no hypo awareness then he shouldn't have been driving in the first place. So if he did have hypo awareness he should have pulled over. I read too often of people talking about going hypo at the wheel. Some of them not even pulling over, just carrying on home. Really does worry me that people don't realise they need to pull over for everyones safety not just theirs.

As far as support goes. I think there is quite a lot out there, you just have to look. There's only so much your DSN and team can tell you. I understand that some people get worse treatment from their team, and don't get the support they need even when they ask for it, but I think in general if you need support you can find it if you look.

Totally agree. And even when I was n my rubbish Diabetes clinic as a teenager, they were still very clear on the rules for when I started driving. They also offered a kind of therapy group to teens (although no one signed up!) so I would say there is a lot of support for Diabetic young people, they just don't always want it.
 
Hi Caryn,
It is awful that a person was killed because of this young man's negligence. He must have been badly controlled to fall into a coma as surely he would have felt some symptoms. Personally, I dont think any young people under the age of 25 should drive (I know this is a generalisation and there are some sensible young drivers) - they get carried away and are too busy being 'cool' to look at the road or anything else.😱🙂Bev
 
from the report you cant tell wether this guy is low or high in any case its the first time ive heard a hyper or hypo being referred to as a "coma" 🙄

To be fair I dont even pick my own baby up if I might be low, never mind drive 😱 lol

Gives us responsible diabetics a bad name! 😉
 
I got the idea he had lapsed into a coma - you can do that whether high OR low.
 
As said, all the facts of the case hasn't been reported but I bet the CPS, police etc has been through his diabetic control and medical records with a fine toothcombe indeed...

I do drive, but wouldn't dream of driving anywhere without testing before hand and ensuring to my best ability that am safe to start my journey and continual it...

But there are a lot of diabetics who know that they shouldn't be behind the wheel of car, they know that they have hypo unawareness or their diabetic control is far below par or safe to be driving...

Some people seem to think that it's their right to drive a car, not a priviledge that it actually is..
 
I think there is more to this than is being reported.

Going into a coma isn't easy nor very quick, there would be symptoms. If he chose to ingnore them this sentence is very lenient. He definitly couldn't be ok to drive one minute and in a coma the next.

I get the feeling he was using his condition as an excuse though that is only my feeling. Maybe driving like an idiot and thought he could get away with it if he pretended to sleep.

Would be interesting to know what his sugar levels were at the scene.
 
The reporting looked fine to me, it was factual. There are a few medical conditions where it is un wise to drive. My friend who has epilepsy wont drive in case she has another seizure, even thoe she hasn't had one in a bout 10 years.

I think as individuals we all have certain responsibilities and one of them is to take steps to ensure we don't harm others.
 
The main thing that was reported was he killed a man thats the most important fact in my eyes...
 
I agree with the rest, it's not bad reporting when the young man failed to check he was fit to drive before getting behind the wheel, someone died because of his carelessness. It would have been different if he had tested and been fine, we all know hypos can come on really fast, but that's not what happened here. For once I think Aunty reported the story fairly.
 
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