Any ideas

[Drummer]

I'm sorry, but I can't put any other interpretation on your wording
Avoid the couscous - it is pasta, so high carb
other than taking it as an encouragement to reduce your carbs.

Have you ever read William Banting's Letter on Corpulence? It was written about 100 years before Dr Atkins was practising - it emphasizes that it is not the quantities but the quality of the foods which are so important - Atkins also gives advice on the quality of the foods - having to add such descriptions as 'grass fed' as of course back in Banting's time that was not necessary.

 

[Kaylz]

Kaylz is actively trying to up her carb intake following medical advice, some may not be aware of this though.
My nan used to put peas, onions, ham and tomatoes in an omelette. I'm not a fan of cooked peas but used to eat them fresh out of the pods when my dad grew them 🙂

OMG I cant believe you just said that, I have planned for dinner tomorrow baked eggs with petits pois and ham with potatoes 😱😳 (so high carb! LOL) and very fine green beans! xx

 

[Lucy Honeychurch]

OMG I cant believe you just said that, I have planned for dinner tomorrow baked eggs with petits pois and ham with potatoes 😱😳 (so high carb! LOL) and very fine green beans! xx

Sounds very nice, enjoy

 

[Amigo]

Drummer, your diet suits you as a type 2 with a weight problem but Kaylz is substantially underweight and it’s causing her other health issues. She’ll never gain weight eating radishes, green beans, lettuce and sprouts etc.

 

[Drummer]

I dont have 'dessert' I struggle with mental health towards my food intake because of certain statements made about carbs and up until the other day I had 25g for dinner, I have a proper meal and a square of chocolate and that is my choice as I can, I'm trying not to let fear take over my life so please keep your comments about carbs to yourself, I mean that in the nicest way possible but at this stage I really do not need to hear it, sorry if I sound blunt but its not the first time you have told me to avoid things, I will make my own decisions and as long as I'm eating and eating healthy (which I am) then there shouldn't be a problem

Oh I do so sympathise - I have had doctors red faced, screaming and spitting saliva at me, threatening to have me hospitalized and 'fed properly' - it is disgraceful how people have been made to feel about how they eat - I only meant to encourage eating more of the foods I think of as wholesome - such as the peas or anything else I suggested.

 

[Kaylz]

Sounds very nice, enjoy

I'm sure I will 🙂 I'd add cheese but with all these cheese toasties I'm having for lunch I'm all cheesed out! LOL x

 

[Kaylz]

Drummer, your diet suits you as a type 2 with a weight problem but Kaylz is substantially underweight and it’s causing her other health issues. She’ll never gain weight eating radishes, green beans, lettuce and sprouts etc.

Hey you!! I'll have you know I likes my green beans and sprouts!! Haha xx

 

[Robin]

Have you ever read William Banting's Letter on Corpulence? It was written about 100 years before Dr Atkins was practising - it emphasizes that it is not the quantities but the quality of the foods which are so important - Atkins also gives advice on the quality of the foods - having to add such descriptions as 'grass fed' as of course back in Banting's time that was not necessary.

But you don't say, avoid the couscous it's low nutrition, you say, avoid the couscous it's high carb. I rest my case.
I am all for good nutrition. I am all for low carb diets where a low carb diet will suit the person and lead to better health for them.
However, I do not think this is the place for such a discussion, by all means start a new thread.
Kaylz, as a type 1, has to be careful to match her insulin to her food. Mealtime Insulin has been developed with an 'average' duration, to cope with an 'average' meal. When we get more practised, most of us can adapt to suit a higher or lower carb meal, but at the moment, while Kaylz is learning, she needs to eat a meal that is balanced out with some form of carb, to enable her to manage her levels successfully.

 

[Amigo]

Hey you!! I'll have you know I likes my green beans and sprouts!! Haha xx

And so you should K...as an accompaniment not the main event! You need some fat on those ribs so you can take your hat off in the flat! Lol

 

[Kaylz]

Oh I do so sympathise - I have had doctors red faced, screaming and spitting saliva at me, threatening to have me hospitalized and 'fed properly' - it is disgraceful how people have been made to feel about how they eat - I only meant to encourage eating more of the foods I think of as wholesome - such as the peas or anything else I suggested.

I eat plenty veg, I have fruit with my porridge every morning (oh wait don't tell me I shouldn't be having that either) you have previously told me that I shouldn't eat this and shouldn't eat that discouraging me from things when all everyone else ever does is encourage, you are making me feel bad for how I eat in fact so why do you think its disgraceful for others to do so, this thread was meant for me to get inspiration from others not be told off about my choices

 

[Drummer]

But 20 gm of carbs from fresh foods is still 20gm of carbs - I really don't understand what the great thing is about eating processed wheat as opposed to fresh veges.
Kaylz has obviously had some really bad experiences, which are still affecting her at the moment.

 

[Kaylz]

But 20 gm of carbs from fresh foods is still 20gm of carbs - I really don't understand what the great thing is about eating processed wheat as opposed to fresh veges.
Kaylz has obviously had some really bad experiences, which are still affecting her at the moment.

I haven't had any bad experiences actually! I've been put off things by people like you warning of high carbs so for a long time wouldn't try anything

 

[Kaylz]

And so you should K...as an accompaniment not the main event! You need some fat on those ribs so you can take your hat off in the flat! Lol

You're dishes sound fab so ermm you could always come and cook me some of those!
Obviously I would buy ingredients and everything 🙂
Meant to say actually do you have any delicious prawn recipes off the top of your head that you wouldn't mind sharing? xx

 

[Robin]

But 20 gm of carbs from fresh foods is still 20gm of carbs - I really don't understand what the great thing is about eating processed wheat as opposed to fresh veges.
Kaylz has obviously had some really bad experiences, which are still affecting her at the moment.

I think the answer is stomach capacity. To eat 20g of carb in the form of veg means a huge mound of food, with the water and fibre content contained in them, you wouldn't have room for anything else. To add 20g of a carb like whole grains (we are talking about wholewheat couscous here, as per Kaylz original post) to a meal means a higher intake of calories, and therefore, hopefully some desired weight gain.

 

[Drummer]

Oups - did not get the post I was replying to included for some reason.

Kaylz If you can have fruit at any time then that is great - I only suggested it as dessert as there is a school of thought in the 'slimming' world which says not to eat dessert as it tends to add weight - therfore, if you want to gain, eat dessert n the evenings

 

[Amigo]

Drummer...Kaylz is seriously underweight and a type 1. There is a very big difference in approach.


100 grams of cous cous = 112 calories

100 grams of Charlotte Potatoes = 76 calories

100 grams of tomatoes = 18 calories

100 grams of sprouts = 29 calories

She needs to gain weight for health purposes and your advice won’t achieve that aim or help her to adjust to being a type 1.

I’m glad your approach works for you but it’s not appropriate advice in this situation.

 

[Amigo]

You're dishes sound fab so ermm you could always come and cook me some of those!
Obviously I would buy ingredients and everything 🙂
Meant to say actually do you have any delicious prawn recipes off the top of your head that you wouldn't mind sharing? xx

I’m not sure if that was meant for me Kaylz but I like to stir fry some king prawns a small amount of cooked chopped onion or shallots, chopped tomato, a bit of chilli and garlic, a dash of Soy Sauce and chopped coriander and a squirt of lemon. Lovely served on poppadums (you can buy them) and they’re only 4 grams of carb per poppadum. I used to serve them on naan bread but very high carb.

 

[Drummer]

I think the answer is stomach capacity. To eat 20g of carb in the form of veg means a huge mound of food, with the water and fibre content contained in them, you wouldn't have room for anything else. To add 20g of a carb like whole grains (we are talking about wholewheat couscous here, as per Kaylz original post) to a meal means a higher intake of calories, and therefore, hopefully some desired weight gain.

Many beans and peas are higher in carbs than couscous - as a percentage of the cooked weight.
I do feel a certain grasping at straws creeping in here.

 

[Amigo]

Many beans and peas are higher in carbs than couscous - as a percentage of the cooked weight.
I do feel a certain grasping at straws creeping in here.

I’ll grasp at cheese straws anytime Drummer! And my Hb is no worse than yours as an unmedicated type 2.

 

[Kaylz]

I’m not sure if that was meant for me Kaylz but I like to stir fry some king prawns a small amount of cooked chopped onion or shallots, chopped tomato, a bit of chilli and garlic, a dash of Soy Sauce and chopped coriander and a squirt of lemon. Lovely served on poppadums (you can buy them) and they’re only 4 grams of carb per poppadum. I used to serve them on naan bread but very high carb.

Ermm yes was meant for you, did it not quote the post? Ooops lol, thank you sounds delish will get some prawns in and poppadoms! Haha x