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A little bit of progress

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Tina63

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Parent of person with diabetes
At long last I am able to report a little bit of positive progress with my son. Too much information to go into detail with, but at his last appointment with HbA1c hitting 12.8% at long last the team got heavy with him. He broke down in tears and started to open up a bit. The long and the short of it is they are arranging for him to see the Psychologist. AT LAST!!! How many times have I asked that and been promised he would, or fobbed off with 'he will sit in on his next appointment and take him off after if necessary' and never did appear.

He also said the team told him he has to open up a bit to me. That I am there to support him and back him and help him in any way I can. He did talk for ages - I let him say all he wanted to at that time without butting in and asking things I wanted to know, I just let him flow. He has said how bad it was in the early days, feeling it was with him 24 hours a day, impacting on every single aspect of his life. He said he was scared to leave the house (naiively I thought that was all over a few weeks in with a couple of sessions with a female psychologist but apparently it only got 'a bit better').

He then said when he first started to loosen his control it felt a bit better, though guilt still hampered him, and now, in the position he is currently in he is like he was pre-diagnosis, needing to drink gallons and constantly going to the toilet. I have been hearing him get up at least 4 times a night, and I am sure it's often more than that, but I do wake very easily. He now says that too is stopping him doing things as he daren't be far from a toilet. He would love to go to a concert and similar things but his need for toilets stops him even contemplating it.

I did try and say that if he took his Lantus and evening Novorapid things would improve very quickly, and he said he had told the team he would start the Lantus that night. I took him up a fresh pen as his existing one was 2 months old and untouched, but I wanted to be sure what he was injecting was good. He didn't touch it! I asked him the next morning why he didn't after all he had said, and he said 'I forgot!' (his bog standard answer). So the next evening I popped my head round his door as I went to bed and said 'Don't forget your Lantus' - and he 'forgot' it again. NOT IMPRESSED.

So the next morning I asked him why he wasn't doing it after I had reminded him. He said specifically because I HAD reminded him. So I played the game, didn't remind him the next two nights, but he still didn't do it.

After 4 nights of frustration I suddenly hit on something, taking account of all that he had said. Next Monday he is off to Thorpe Park with some of his old school friends. Bearing in mind the toilet issue, I realised this was going to ruin the day for him. It will be horrendously busy there with their Halloween themed park for the week, the queues will be awful. I used that as my lead in, and pointed out that it will be damn awkward for him being in one of those snaking queues, then needing the toilet, he would never be able to get out or back in to be with his mates. I just casually suggested that by maybe getting back on track with his Lantus it would ease the need for the toilet almost instantly.

Well, as if by magic, the last two days he has not only taken his Lantus, but some Novorapid in the evenings too! He has carried on with his M3 each morning, so he is now doing all he should be doing. It's only 2 days I know, but I am elated. I do realise Monday is nearly here, and is he likely to get lax again after that, but he has another trip to Thorpe Park the following Monday, so it's reason enough to carry on at least another week. I am hoping that during that period he really does get to see the benefits, and hopefully starts to feel a bit better in himself too (not that he ever admits to feeling anything but fine) so it's a real incentive to carry on.

I only heard him visit the bathroom once Wednesday night and not at all last night, so things certainly seem better already and he hasn't drunk much with his lunch, so all is looking rosy at the moment.

I am over the moon and just hope this really is the beginning of better things. I am a bit miffed that the psychologist, who was meant to phone him on Monday to arrange a mutually convenient time, hasn't phoned yet, but at least we are making some really positive progress on our own. Maybe I should start suggesting he looks into a concert he would like to go to. It would be good to give him another goal to aim for.

One very happy Mummy anyway!

Tina
 
That's terrific news Tina! If only he would realise that diabetes makes far less impact on your life when you take those few minutes each day to deal with it than if you don't! Hope these goals and general feeling better get him into the habit so that it becomes second nature and no more forgetfulness 🙂
 
Fantastic news Tina, long may it continue.
 
Pleased to hear some progress is being made. Long may it continue! 🙂
 
Tina-you and your son often cross my mind and you must have the patience of a saint-small steps do make a difference.The concert is a good thought for forward planning- fingers crossed for you from me
 
Hi Tina

I'm really pleased for you & of course your son that hopefully this will show him he can do this. He is so lucky having you for a mum.

Lots of hugs
Lynne
 
Hi Tina,

I do hope this is the start of things to come for your son. It must be tough watching him go down the road of not being able to cope and not appearing to care - but you are doing the right thing - you cant force him to do things you just have to be there for him when he needs you - which you obviously are.🙂Bev
 
Thank you everyone for your kind comments and good wishes. Thanks too Cherrypie for the link. I have seen that before, and we also have had something issued by the hospital along similar lines, but it's good to re-read that from time to time. Seeing No 8 about not holding him back, I really am trying to encourage him to spread his wings a little. He had got in the habit of going out with his mates, so I had assumed all was well, but I guess when I think back he doesn't go further than a mile or two from home, except when he is at college (15 miles by bus), so even Thorpe Park on Monday is a major step forward for him. I really will talk to him in a couple of weeks about finding a concert he wants to go to. As long as one or two of his mates will go too, I would be happy enough for him to go. Can't say I would want to listen to the type of music 17 year old boys are into :D

I just hope I find tomorrow he has taken his Lantus again. I really am hopeful that at least with his trips coming up he is seeing the benefit and it is hitting home with him how much better it is, I just hope it continues beyond that. Fingers crossed!

Thanks
Tina
 
Just a suggestion Tina, can you slip a load of extra hypo stuff in his pockets etc just in case of some lows as he will be rather active.
 
Thanks for the suggestion Sue. Despite him never having hypos these days he does always carry dextrose tablets, but I will make sure he takes extras. My boy never goes more than 5 minutes without food anyway :D
 
I hope it continues Tina, fingers crossed it does. Have to agree with others the idea of a concert sounds like a great incentive to keep him going.
🙂 I hope the weekend continues the same way for you x
 
Sounds like great news Tina, and very motivational for him! Good luck!
 
Agree that getting a concert in the diary is an excellent idea. Cherry Pie's link was interesting to me too, and I reckon you're following those golden rules even though it's incredibly hard to do it!! It's so good that your son is sharing how he feels with you now, what a big step forward. Hope he has a super day at Thorpe Park and it gives him the boost he needs to to carry on improving.
 
I am so relieved and happy that your son is now able to open up about his condition - at 17 years it must have felt like he was carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders and he must now be relieved that he's been able to share his fears with his mom -you're doing a brilliant job and I'm really pleased that things are moving positvely in the right direction..well done. Throwing you and your son a hug xx
 
Unfortunately it seems I was a little too keen to share our good news. 48 hours after starting his Lantus and Novorapid again and he has stopped! He has been Mr Angry all weekend too so I haven't even attempted to ask why. It won't get me anywhere anyway. So, he is back to his one large slug of M3 in the mornings and that's it.

Ho Hum - so here we go again! Next appointment mid November, but they are not doing an HbA1c this time. Still no news (well not as far as I know anyway) about the psychologist either. So for all the positiveness of a week or so again, and here we go again..........
 
Oh dear- for want of a better word- why? so did he go to Thorpe Park? why on earth would he stop- you must be tearing your hair out
 
Heaven only knows why he stopped again. Yes, he is at Thorpe Park as I write. Not due home until mega late tonight. As usual, he hasn't taken any insulin, his meter or anything. Just some food and money and I am sure a pack of dextrose tablets. I did ask him on Saturday if he needed any more dextrose tablets to take with him but he said no.

I have absolutely no idea why he stopped again. He isn't getting up for the loo too much at the moment, maybe his body tolerates non-compliance more than most, and maybe things just got really bad a week or two ago, but now he has had a couple of doses of Lantus his body is coping better again? I really don't know. I think I will contact his old DSN (don't have any contact details for his new one) and tell her what has happened, just so that again they know exactly what's what when he goes to see his new team in 2 weeks time. Without another HbA1c they are not going to know whether he is doing any better or not, and he is bound to embroider the truth to them.
 
Heaven only knows why he stopped again. Yes, he is at Thorpe Park as I write. Not due home until mega late tonight. As usual, he hasn't taken any insulin, his meter or anything. Just some food and money and I am sure a pack of dextrose tablets. I did ask him on Saturday if he needed any more dextrose tablets to take with him but he said no.

I have absolutely no idea why he stopped again. He isn't getting up for the loo too much at the moment, maybe his body tolerates non-compliance more than most, and maybe things just got really bad a week or two ago, but now he has had a couple of doses of Lantus his body is coping better again? I really don't know. I think I will contact his old DSN (don't have any contact details for his new one) and tell her what has happened, just so that again they know exactly what's what when he goes to see his new team in 2 weeks time. Without another HbA1c they are not going to know whether he is doing any better or not, and he is bound to embroider the truth to them.

Hi Tina,
write to the consultant and put in confidence. This way it wont be passed on to your son.
Just a thought for you, the hospital web site does it tell you who the dsn's are? I know my main hospital names all the staff and their roll in the dept.
 
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