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Hi everyone just diagnosed yesterday type 2 by a blood test for something else by my GP over the telephone no appointment till the 4th of July for the diabetic nurse just feeling a bit
Overwhelmed to say the least I'm sure you all know how I feel physically and emotionally having been here your selves

Martin
 
Welcome to the forum Martin from a fellow T2.
 
Hi Martin and sorry to hear you have joined our club. We certainly know how you feel, such a shock and it can take a time to come to terms with it. We are all here to help you as you make the changes that you will probably need to. Are you able to tell us the result of your test, was it a finger prick or blood test? There will be lots to learn but it doesn’t have to be overnight. The main thing seems to be the problem that carbs cause, bread, pasta, potatoes and rice etc turn to sugar in the body so they need to be decreased but have a good look through the threads so you can see what we are all gabbing about and then ask as many questions as you want. You are not alone and we are all only too happy to help x
 
Welcome to the forum - and don't worry.
If you are one of the lucky ones cutting out all the 'healthy' carbohydrates we have been told we need, and the low fat options too will soon have you back in normal numbers. There is a good chance that most of the dietary advice for the last several decades is total rubbish, and we'd all feel a lot better for ignoring it - also there would be fewer diabetics and life expectancy will begin to increase again. You couldn't make it up and get it published.
 
Hi Martin, I'm sure we all know exactly how your feeling. I was only diagnosed a fortnight ago, so know exactly how you feel. I was told to go to a class which are run locally, assuming they do it in all areas, and I found it really helpful to change my mindset and pick myself up. Good luck
 
Sue was a blood test, for the meds I take for high blood pressure and cholesterol. I'm a retired nurse so i think the changes i know I have to make are whats overwhelming lol all the stuff i love well i guess you all know that too I am terribly overweight (blushes) and know i need to something about that too I eat healthily lol so I thought but have always been terrible at portion control no choice now still when i get over the shock hear the numbers from the HC and see the diabetic clinic i wont be so much in the worrying stage
 
Sue was a blood test, for the meds I take for high blood pressure and cholesterol. I'm a retired nurse so i think the changes i know I have to make are whats overwhelming lol all the stuff i love well i guess you all know that too I am terribly overweight (blushes) and know i need to something about that too I eat healthily lol so I thought but have always been terrible at portion control no choice now still when i get over the shock hear the numbers from the HC and see the diabetic clinic i wont be so much in the worrying stage
You are making your first good steps by acknowledging what you need to change and you will over time. A lot of us have other medical problems too but we just adapt to what is best for us individually. I’m only 6 months diagnosed and still making changes but I do feel much better already but confess I do struggle with some things. That’s why this forum is so good as such great support from people who really understand and care x
 
If you are taking statins to lower cholesterol that might be ramping up the symptoms of type two.
Unfortunately all the hoohaah about fats and cholesterol has not done some of us a lot of good, and for some it has done harm.
 
Welcome to the forum - and don't worry.
If you are one of the lucky ones cutting out all the 'healthy' carbohydrates we have been told we need, and the low fat options too will soon have you back in normal numbers. There is a good chance that most of the dietary advice for the last several decades is total rubbish, and we'd all feel a lot better for ignoring it - also there would be fewer diabetics and life expectancy will begin to increase again. You couldn't make it up and get it published.

I don’t think it’s fair to say that the dietary advice is ‘total rubbish’ - but more that the modern western diet doesn’t suit everyone and that there is no ‘one size fits all’. As an individual, it seems to me that you have found that you are particularly sensitive to carbohydrate, but as a forum we have lots of members with lots of tolerances across different types.

Most current dietary advice that I’m aware of acknowledges that the the foods most likely to raise blood glucose are carbohydrates, and that portion control is important. It has been a while since the advice was ‘base every meal on starchy carbs’. It took a while for some to realign, but I think the current suggestions of a Mediterranean-style diet with moderate carbs is fairly close to what many folks on the forum end up enjoying.

The main thing is for individuals to discover the diet that works for them (mostly I would suggest by using a meter to help them), and gives them the sort of results they are looking for and a way of eating they can sustain.
 
Welcome to the forum @martinbannatyne

Sounds like you’ve had a bit of a shock, and are being made to wait a bit before you get some reassurance and information.

Many members here have found Maggie Davey’s Letter to the newly diagnosed a helpful introduction - you can read it here if it helps
https://forum.diabetes.org.uk/boards/threads/maggie-daveys-letter-to-newly-diagnosed-type-2s.61307/

Hope you are able to take a few days breather and allow yourself to adapt to your new circumstances. Lots of friendly folk here to help you along the way 🙂
 
I am now 68 and from my early 20s I have been lectured about my weight - even when I has a 24 inch waist - I have been put on diets high in carb low in fat, laughed at screamed at insulted and mocked threatened with being taken into hospital and fed properly - on healthy carbs - I tried taking Metformin and a Statin and became very unwell, even after describing the terrible effects of 2016 at my last appointment at the GP clinic I was encouraged to take statins again, or something like them - to lower cholesterol - even though they seem to be either ineffective or detrimental to longer life.
At the education sessions about type two in 2017 we were told that baked potato and baked beans were a good choice for lunch - and there were biscuits to go with the tea served with skimmed milk.
 
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Hi everyone just diagnosed yesterday type 2 by a blood test for something else by my GP over the telephone no appointment till the 4th of July for the diabetic nurse just feeling a bit
Overwhelmed to say the least I'm sure you all know how I feel physically and emotionally having been here your selves

Martin

Hi & welcome, Martin! As you say, everybody does go through the same shock - and you do get over it. I'm also sure you don't need to be told that one way of approaching the DX is to treat it as a spur to getting healthier - think it's pretty common for people to end up healthier than they have been for a long time, before too long and with a bit of focus and effort.

Guessing, I'd say that losing some weight, making your diet more heart-healthy and adding some exercise will see big improvements to BG, BP and cholesterol, in combination with meds. The standard kind of advice - not rocket science, but it's sure worked for me. Good luck!
 
... lectured about my weight ... biscuits to go with the tea served with skimmed milk.
Beggars belief really. I've been lectured all my life too, even when I was 9stones 3pounds. What I wouldn't give to be that weight now! 😱

Hello and welcome to the forum Martin. 🙂
 
Waking up with Blood Sugar levels of 8.6 to 9 most morning since diagnosed. not on any treatment yet, are these high enough to worry about or ok? I am really sticking to what i would call high fibre low carb. diet. sugars can only be coming from the fruit and veg or am I barking up the wrong tree
 
Waking up with Blood Sugar levels of 8.6 to 9 most morning since diagnosed. not on any treatment yet, are these high enough to worry about or ok? I am really sticking to what i would call high fibre low carb. diet. sugars can only be coming from the fruit and veg or am I barking up the wrong tree

You'd want to bring these down over time, maybe eventually to "normal" levels which are generally < 5.5 for fasting (depending on which guidelines you follow) if you can do it. But it's not something to stress about too much. Waking levels are notoriously take the longest to get under control - something along the lines of insulin resistance generally being highest in the morning - and in the early part of the D-journey it's usually most fruitful to focus more on post-eating levels.
 
Waking up with Blood Sugar levels of 8.6 to 9 most morning since diagnosed. ... are these high enough to worry about or ok?
Well, you could do with a bit of room for any rise in your BG from your breakfast.
For now I'd suggest keeping a food diary, along with a record of your levels before and after eating. After a couple of weeks, hopefully you'll start to see a pattern.
 
Hi everyone just diagnosed yesterday type 2 by a blood test for something else by my GP over the telephone no appointment till the 4th of July for the diabetic nurse just feeling a bit
Overwhelmed to say the least I'm sure you all know how I feel physically and emotionally having been here your selves

Martin
Hi Martin it's the waiting bit after the phone call that is stressful while you wait for information from the GP's I had to wait the best part of a month,although that was understandable with how busy the surgery is.
I'm pretty sure the weight will drop off when you change your diet,I've lost 2 stone in 2 months but I have been walking briskly for 30 mins twice a day but now I just do that once a day and I have a cycle on my mountain bike in the evening(slick tyres fitted),after you lose weight the exercise becomes easier and your stamina builds up, and I became surprised at the results which in turn have motivated me,you will find your feet,I enjoy my meals and I'm happy in myself that I'm doing something in terms of self improvement,which had been needed for many years
 
Hi Martin and welcome, low carbs and smaller portions + exercise will help bring both the weight and blood glucose down, you will feel easier once you notice the results in those areas coming down 🙂
 
Hello Martin, just too welcome you to the forum.🙂
 
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