Weight loss...slim diabetics

[Deleted member 21371]

Hi, there appears to be differences in opinion on cholesterol and food. Certainly the nhs website says cheese, particularly hard cheese should be avoided and that eggs do contain some cholesterol, though pretty negligible. However other sites appear to say that cheese is ok. Let’s just say that we should all do our best to reduce cholesterol if it is raised and take advice from our GPS etc.

I can only find the oddball guru sites that make the "good" claims?
As you say, mainstream sites tend to say cholesterol loaded foods and saturated fats are bad.
Which I appear to confirm personally.
Which is quite sad, as spending a day swimming in cheese would be good, but reality is, I'd probably die.

 

[chaoticcar]

Can only go on my own experience ,but when I lowered carbs and upped fats particularly cheese and cream and also upped my egg consumption my Cholesterol levels fell from 7 to 5
Carol

 

[Madeline]

Yep, and when I was a wee bit high the other day Jen told me to eat some cheese, worked a treat.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Can only go on my own experience ,but when I lowered carbs and upped fats particularly cheese and cream and also upped my egg consumption my Cholesterol levels fell from 7 to 5
Carol

It's the breakdown that matters more. A lot find the good cholesterol falls, and that the bad cholesterol shoots up.

 

[chaoticcar]

No sorry my breakdown is fine !
Carol

 

[Eddy Edson]

Can only go on my own experience ,but when I lowered carbs and upped fats particularly cheese and cream and also upped my egg consumption my Cholesterol levels fell from 7 to 5
Carol

Don't think that would be surprising if eg you replaced refined carbs with cheese, cream & eggs, and/or you reduced calories. Maybe more surprising if eg you replaced whole grains or increased calories.

 

[chaoticcar]

I increased calories ,I need to gain weight

 

[SkinnyLiz]

Have today decided to challenge my doctors indifference (and his faulty maths) and made an appointment to discuss my unwanted weight loss.

 

[mikeyB]

Its been similar for me, complicated by IBS which is triggered by too much fat. Have been very gradually increasing the fat content of meals, adding spash of cream to my (already full fat yoghurt) etc. similar size to you, am now probably 8/10 rather than 10/12.
Have you looked at DitchtheCarbs.com? The No Grain Granola is tasty and high fat/calorie, plus it uses coconut oil, so possibly healthier than lashings of animal fat.
Have been stuffing myself for weeks but still losing weight. Decided its too expensive to carry on, so now eating "to appetite". My doctor is obviously numerically challenged, as he said a 4kg loss is acceptable, when in fact it was around 6kg. Was not really used to kg, so didnt challenge it at the time. Weight this morning 48.4kg, 7st 9lb. So have now lost exactly 8kg.
Any ideas?

Coconut oil is loaded with saturated fat, far more than any other vegetable oil. And butter. And meat. And makes everything taste vaguely of coconut.

Just because it’s coconut doesn’t make it healthy.

 

[Eddy Edson]

Coconut oil is loaded with saturated fat, far more than any other vegetable oil. And butter. And meat. And makes everything taste vaguely of coconut.

Just because it’s coconut doesn’t make it healthy.

Indeed! A useful table:



Coconut oil is as bad as it gets, tho palm kernel oil comes close.

From https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1161/CIR.0000000000000510 which is the American Heart Association's advisory on dietary fats and CV disease. It's distilled knowledge from the best clinical evidence.

A handy resource, which means that you don't have to listen to whatever c**p the Internet or newspapers have to say on these subjects.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I saw a documentary on the industrial extraction of coconut oil.
Now the western world see it as a "superfood", it's amazing what actually happens to make a product that ends up being eaten.

Personally, if I did touch the stuff, I'd only eat unrefined, extra virgin, and then I'd want to watch them produce it in front of me, after choosing my own coconuts.

 

[Docb]

You can say the same thing about French wine Travellor. Anybody who drinks the stuff produced by some of the "local", "artisan", "traditional" manufacturers needs to have their head (and blood) examined.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

You can say the same thing about French wine Travellor. Anybody who drinks the stuff produced by some of the "local", "artisan", "traditional" manufacturers needs to have their head (and blood) examined.

I'm sure you could say the same about a lot of things.
It still means coconut oil isn't good, and personally, it's in the top of the list of things I wouldn't eat.
But yes, I agree it is not exclusive on that list.

 

[mikeyB]

Indeed. And when you start to find out how they turn liquid vegetable oils such as olive, corn or rapeseed into semi solids for use as spreads, you might think twice about spreading them on your toast in the morning.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Indeed. And when you start to find out how they turn liquid vegetable oils such as olive, corn or rapeseed into semi solids for use as spreads, you might think twice about spreading them on your toast in the morning.

I eat low fat.no desire to spread anything to be fair.
I may go a "spreadable" butter mix, but it'll last 6 months at least.