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The Fast Fix: Diabetes - ITV, 13th/14th June 2018

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😡 I wish they'd get the title correct. This diet will not fix my type of diabetes. I don't want people at work or anywhere coming up and saying ooh I saw this programme and you can fix it by doing this. 😡
 
It doesn't 'fix' Type 2 either.
 
Matt Cycle said:
😡 I wish they'd get the title correct. This diet will not fix my type of diabetes. I don't want people at work or anywhere coming up and saying ooh I saw this programme and you can fix it by doing this. 😡
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It seems to be a perennial problem, unfortunately. On the trailer they do mention that it's all about Type 2 diabetes, so hopefully your work colleagues will not comment if they actually watch it 🙂

My concern about these programmes is also for many of the Type 2 people whose diabetes may not be 'reversible' by dietary modifications, who yet will be made to feel they are 'failing' if it's not achievable for them. Diabetes of all kinds has many and varied manifestations and the exclusive emphasis on diet may help a very large number of people, but not all, and it shouldn't be presented in that way. Just my humble opinion! 🙂
 
Northerner said:
My concern about these programmes is also for many of the Type 2 people whose diabetes may not be 'reversible' by dietary modifications, who yet will be made to feel they are 'failing' if it's not achievable for them. Diabetes of all kinds has many and varied manifestations and the exclusive emphasis on diet may help a very large number of people, but not all, and it shouldn't be presented in that way. Just my humble opinion! 🙂
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Agreed Northerner.
I feel more stress and pressure from well-meaning individuals saying "oh but you can reverse it by losing weight" than I do from having this condition! 😡
 
And they will then believe the TV over you when you say the programme was wrong
 
Beck S said:
And they will then believe the TV over you when you say the programme was wrong
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Exactly. I'm not convinced by this "curing" diabetes message. It's dangerous for people to misunderstand and think type 1 can be cured, and in reference to type 2, I think it's about really good control of BG levels and Hba1c.
My BMI is 25.5, I don't think of myself as overweight, yet a lot of these "cures" are about weight loss rather than lower carb eating and long term health maintenance.

Sorry folks, I'll shut up now!
 
Exactly. It took me a while to get my Mum to understand it because the newspapers she reads talk about cures and similar, but she does get it now. Hopefully as more people start to understand it will get better.
 
Having a fairly new diagnosis and still stumbling my way along if one more person tells me I can reverse it I may well scream. While people may have amazing results for me it’s just really well maintained which is great for them but it may not be possible for everyone. They are still diabetic and any change in a strict routine will send levels back up. Diabetes anyway can throw a curve ball no matter how well maintained.
 
Lyn68 said:
Having a fairly new diagnosis and still stumbling my way along if one more person tells me I can reverse it I may well scream. While people may have amazing results for me it’s just really well maintained which is great for them but it may not be possible for everyone. They are still diabetic and any change in a strict routine will send levels back up. Diabetes anyway can throw a curve ball no matter how well maintained.
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Precisely Lyn...good management is what it is all about for me...I am diabetic...will always be diabetic...as long as I'm a well controlled diabetic that's my ultimate goal.
 
Matt Cycle said:
😡 I wish they'd get the title correct. This diet will not fix my type of diabetes. I don't want people at work or anywhere coming up and saying ooh I saw this programme and you can fix it by doing this. 😡
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That is my concern Matt. Even Type IIs cannot all reverse their diabetes and what worries me is that this programme is going to make out that everyone can do so and if you don't it is your own fault. No-one can stay on a liquid diet or 800 calories all their life.
 
Northerner said:
It seems to be a perennial problem, unfortunately. On the trailer they do mention that it's all about Type 2 diabetes, so hopefully your work colleagues will not comment if they actually watch it 🙂

My concern about these programmes is also for many of the Type 2 people whose diabetes may not be 'reversible' by dietary modifications, who yet will be made to feel they are 'failing' if it's not achievable for them. Diabetes of all kinds has many and varied manifestations and the exclusive emphasis on diet may help a very large number of people, but not all, and it shouldn't be presented in that way. Just my humble opinion! 🙂
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Entirely agree with your Northerner. I think the media are becoming a bit of a menace with this at the moment. Perhaps not on purpose but I wish they would not keep giving the impression that all you have to do is change the diet and you will get rid of diabetes. it does not always happen.
 
Agree with AdeleTurner 72. I am pre-diabetic, got out of it, in it again. I was underweight but have managed to pull it back a bit now so that the BMI is 18.8 which is just in the lower limit. I think the media are causing more problems keep on banging on about losing weight etc, etc, etc. It is not as simple as that. My friend's hubby is diabetic and underweight so cannot do liquid diets or 800 cals; neither can I as I would lose too much weight again. My friend's brother is 23 stone, not ideal I know, but is not diabetic. It is not as simple as weight in every case.

Think I had better shut up now too after all these posts.
 
One other thing - my Dad in Law's neighbour lost weight and went from diabetic hba1c to normal levels. She said to the doctor that she was not diabetic now. He said she was and always would be, she just had better control. I know that can depend on the GP though.
 
Maz2 said:
Exactly Bubbsie. I am concerned this is going to give the impression that everyone can "fix" it which it not true. It won't be possible to stay on a liquid diet or 800 cals for life.
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Not only not possible, but highly inadvisable long term. I'm no longer overweight but I'm still diabetic.
 
Exactly Mark. I am sick and tired of all this media nonsense about diabetes is due to being overweight or obese. I am sure that in some cases that is correct, as is the case with anything, but in a lot of cases it is not. It is not fair to insinuate that it is the diabetic patient's fault that they have diabetes. I mentioned this to my GP as he has a special interest in diabetes and he said it is certainly not the fault of the patient.
 
Maz2 said:
Exactly Mark. I am sick and tired of all this media nonsense about diabetes is due to being overweight or obese. I am sure that in some cases that is correct, as is the case with anything, but in a lot of cases it is not. It is not fair to insinuate that it is the diabetic patient's fault that they have diabetes. I mentioned this to my GP as he has a special interest in diabetes and he said it is certainly not the fault of the patient.
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Maz there is clearly a genetic pre-disposition to diabetes...we have a family history I was unaware of until I made some enquiries into it...it isn't just a weight factor...that doesn't help but it doesn't cause diabetes...in my own case I was very fit & active...aerobics five times a week...swimming every morning before work...running... circuit training...I was doing my degree full time & working lots of hours in my student days...suddenly I am tired...lethargic no energy...it's very likely my diabetes started many years ago with me in complete ignorance of that...so tired I took less work...did less exercise...ate more carbs...craved more carbs...I accept responsibility for not going to see my GP however like many others I attributed that to work...studying...stress...with hindsight I had the classic symptoms...for me now the issue once diagnosed should be not how we got it...whether it was deserved or not (it is never deserved)….it should be about we can find the best way to manage it...obtain good control.
 
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Mark Parrott said:
Not only not possible, but highly inadvisable long term. I'm no longer overweight but I'm still diabetic.
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Exactly Mark.
Your results are an inspiration to us all. I hope one day to reduce or even stop my metformin, by achieving similar continued good BG control. But I would never consider that a cure, because I know that if I went back to eating prediagnosis style, the Hba1c would soon skyrocket again.
 
Bubbsie said:
Maz there is clearly a genetic pre-disposition to diabetes...we have a family history I was unaware of until I made some enquiries into it...it isn't just a weight factor...that doesn't help but it doesn't cause diabetes...in my own case I was very fit & active...aerobics five times a week...swimming every morning before work...running... circuit training...I was doing my degree full time & working lots of hours in my student days...suddenly I am tired...lethargic no energy...it's very likely my diabetes started many years ago with me in complete ignorance of that...so tired I took less work...did less exercise...ate more carbs...craved more carbs...I accept responsibility for not going to see my GP however like many others I attributed that to work...studying...stress...with hindsight I had the classic symptoms...for me now the issue once diagnosed should be not how we got it...whether it was deserved or not (it is never deserved)….it should be about we can find the best way to manage it...obtain good control.
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I cannot find anything in my family but I am only in touch with three cousins on my mom's side. My parents, born in 1913 and 1918 would not have had the amount of food and lifestyle for diabetes to show up I don't think. I am getting worried that there may be something genetic that I don't know about and I will end up not being able to sort this out. I am going to continue to battle on.

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