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Vegetables?

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Kaylz

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Hey my lovelies 🙂 just a quick question really, do you guys include the carb of your veg in your bolus, I believe DAFNE rules say no, dietician also said no but I'm keen on my veggies and if my portion was over a couple of g's worth I do, whats your guys opinions and what do you guys do? xx
 
Kaylz said:
Hey my lovelies 🙂 just a quick question really, do you guys include the carb of your veg in your bolus, I believe DAFNE rules say no, dietician also said no but I'm keen on my veggies and if my portion was over a couple of g's worth I do, whats your guys opinions and what do you guys do? xx
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You know what the answer is going to be by now! - 'It depends....'

If I was just having a small portion of veg on the side with a protein and carb based meal, especially if it was broccoli or cabbage or something, I'd ignore the veg. But if I was going all out for a dish bulked out with several different veg, say, peas, tomatoes and carrots, and some protein but not a lot of extra carbs, then yes I would count them. I also always count roast parsnips, because I tend to eat them instead of roast potatoes, and they're quite carby.
 
Same as Robin. I don’t count leaves, I do count roots and fruit that pretend to be veg (ie peppers, tomatoes). I don’t weigh them though, I guess since they aren’t that much. For example a large salad including grated carrot, peppers and tomatoes I would call 10g. Roasted carrots would be about 10g. Stir fry with onions and peppers, about 10g but being a vegetarian my veg portions tend to be large.
I am more careful with things like peas and pulses as they are more carby. I never understood the DAFNE rule that said not to count them.
 
I tot everything up. Never had a problem doing that.
 
khskel said:
I tot everything up. Never had a problem doing that.
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Me too, the dietician told me not to include this or that in my count BUT if one thing is a couple of g' s worth and something else on my plate is too then that's nearly a half unit for dinner x
 
I usually eat a huge plate of veggies and won't count the kale and green leaves but will all the other vegetables. I just guess how much and it usually works!
 
I prefer to know for sure so I will weigh everything as I'm not taking the risk x
 
The way I think of it is that there are so many inaccuracies in the whole carb counting thing that the amount of carbs in greens is well within the margin for error in any calculation.
For example: carb values per 100g vary depending which source you look at. They definitely change depending how long the veg have been in the fridge because of moisture loss, and they almost certainly vary between different brands or varieties.
Then there is the inaccuracy of scales, meters and injections, variation in the absorption of insulin, and insulin sensitivity. With all of those, trying to be precise to the nearest gramme seems a bit pointless to me.
 
Radders said:
With all of those, trying to be precise to the nearest gramme seems a bit pointless to me.
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Hear hear! Veg I count spuds and parsnips always, I count legumes, other root veg, onions and leeks if casseroled 'well' LOL, esp when there's some left and we have it tomorrow too. I've never counted a tomato in my life whether fresh or tinned and absolutely not ANY green leafy vegetables cooked or raw, EVER.

I never count (ordinary 'Bisto' type) gravy either. I would were I my husband, his dinner has to be in a swimming pool of gravy! Mine does not!

It's like the drop of milk in my teas and coffeea - I just don't count it.
 
I have nearly a full bag of veggies in my Stir-Fries at leased 3 times a week. Don't count them veggies.
 
I just plugged all the components of my evening meal into Myfitnesspal and let it work out the carbs for me. The small amount of rice I had came to 20g of carb. The peas, passata, and onion added up to 10g. The seafood was 2g. I gave myself 3 units of insulin on a 1:10 ratio, so I ignored the seafood. There's no way I could have ignored a whole unit's worth of Veg and expected my BG to be where I want it to be at bedtime.
 
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Robin said:
I just plugged all the components of my evening meal into Myfitnesspal and let it work out the carbs for me. The small amount of rice I had came to 20g of carb. The peas, passata, and onion added up to 10g. The seafood was 2g. I gave myself 3 units of insulin on a 1:10 ratio, so I ignored the seafood. There's no way I could have ignored a whole units worth of Veg and expected my BG to be where I want it to be at bedtime.
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Onion and peas I would count. In fact I’m not a fan of peas so avoid them if possible!
 
There's a lot in passata cos it's 'concentrated'. I dunno without eyeballing your dinner, but would have need some but then often need more for rice than any carb info tells me I do anyway.
 
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