Pain related BG spikes!

[Amigo]

I'm beginning to see a direct correlation between 'rough' days when my joints are particularly bad and I'm feeling below par generally and higher glucose levels. I had what I thought was a lower carb dinner and now find myself at 9.8 which is very unusual for me.

I know stress can raise blood glucose levels but in me it's most definitely a bad night's sleep and general pain

Do others find this?

 

[grovesy]

Yes.

 

[Copepod]

Pain = type of stress. Lack of sleep = stress. If I'm suffering with sore joints, I rarely take painkillers during the day, but do take them before bed to aid sleep.

 

[Lindarose]

I think there's definately something that goes on in our bodies causing higher BGs that's not always food related. It's so frustrating when you know you've kept on the straight and narrow then get higher readings.
I think the stress hormone is released when you're in pain and that in turn affects glucose levels. But maybe not for everyone? And maybe not all the time? The complexities of the human body! 😱

 

[Amigo]

I think there's definately something that goes on in our bodies causing higher BGs that's not always food related. It's so frustrating when you know you've kept on the straight and narrow then get higher readings.
I think the stress hormone is released when you're in pain and that in turn affects glucose levels. But maybe not for everyone? And maybe not all the time? The complexities of the human body! 😱

That's true Linda and it's very frustrating isn't it? 🙄

I know that my cancer causes a massive increase in cytokine activity which fuels inflammation which in turn leads to a glucose hike. Not much I can do about that I'm afraid. They're just not conditions that can play nicely together 😡

Hope your joint issues aren't too bad at the moment Linda. Here's to better levels tomorrow.

 

[Lindarose]

Thanks Amigo. I'm trying a titanium magnetic bracelet that a friend has been having success with. Only got it yesterday so early days but I'm hoping it will help me sleep better. You never know! 🙂

 

[mikeyB]

Interesting thread, this. I'm like Amigo. On days when my mobility is particularly bad, whether it's the hip or neuropathy, my BG is more difficult to get right. I don't think it's lack of mobility. I think it's a reflection of inflammatory activity in the body, but who knows? There isn't a whole swathe of literature involving, in Amigo's, case, blood cancers and diabetes, or in my case one of any of Ulcerative colitis, chronic pancreatic inflammation, osteoarthritis (which is not simple wear a tear as is sometimes said) or this undiagnosed motor neuropathy that I've got.

All of these interact with each other and the diabetes, but a common theme is inflammatory processes. That's the key - yes the increasing pain causes stress, but its the cause of the increasing pain that affects BG. Then you get the vicious circle of stress hormones making things worse. Or adding to the fun, depending on your mindset.

 

[mikeyB]

Thanks Amigo. I'm trying a titanium magnetic bracelet that a friend has been having success with. Only got it yesterday so early days but I'm hoping it will help me sleep better. You never know! 🙂

I'm interested in where the magnetism comes in, because Titanium of itself is not magnetic. It's paramagnetic- that is, it develops a magnetic field in the presence of a reasonably powerful magnet, but loses it once that is removed. Do you know how it's constructed?

 

[Amigo]

Interesting thread, this. I'm like Amigo. On days when my mobility is particularly bad, whether it's the hip or neuropathy, my BG is more difficult to get right. I don't think it's lack of mobility. I think it's a reflection of inflammatory activity in the body, but who knows? There isn't a whole swathe of literature involving, in Amigo's, case, blood cancers and diabetes, or in my case one of any of Ulcerative colitis, chronic pancreatic inflammation, osteoarthritis (which is not simple wear a tear as is sometimes said) or this undiagnosed motor neuropathy that I've got.

All of these interact with each other and the diabetes, but a common theme is inflammatory processes. That's the key - yes the increasing pain causes stress, but its the cause of the increasing pain that affects BG. Then you get the vicious circle of stress hormones making things worse. Or adding to the fun, depending on your mindset.

Absolutely agree Mike. There's a theory that massive inflammatory response can in fact cause diabetes too and indeed leukaemia. My osteoarthritis isn't as you say merely attributable to 'simple wear and tear' either because it started and is most evident in non weight bearing joints. Automimmune comditions seem to follow.
In leukaemia, the enormously high level of cytokine activity from malfunctioning immune responses seems to be implicated. But I don't think it's necessarily stress related either (though clearly stress can increase BG's markedly).
It highlights to me the need to test though because my levels are a pretty good barometer for general ill-health even without the carb influx!

 

[Lindarose]

I'm interested in where the magnetism comes in, because Titanium of itself is not magnetic. It's paramagnetic- that is, it develops a magnetic field in the presence of a reasonably powerful magnet, but loses it once that is removed. Do you know how it's constructed?

Well each of the links has a couple of small magnets on it. Hope you can make it out from this pic. I've had a 2 links removed today so it fits snugly round my wrist.

 

[mikeyB]

Ah, clever, I see. Thanks for that, Linda.

If you cook using an induction hob, be very careful.

 

[Rosiecarmel]

Interesting thread. Do you take ibuprofen at all for your joints? I used to prefer ibuprofen to paracetamol for my pain but found they raised my blood sugars. Even the capsules. Although that might just be my body being weird, as usual!

I am currently in very high amounts of pain yet my blood sugars are behaving themselves for the first time ever. Just when you think you've got this diabetes lark down eh🙄

 

[Amigo]

Interesting thread. Do you take ibuprofen at all for your joints? I used to prefer ibuprofen to paracetamol for my pain but found they raised my blood sugars. Even the capsules. Although that might just be my body being weird, as usual!

I am currently in very high amounts of pain yet my blood sugars are behaving themselves for the first time ever. Just when you think you've got this diabetes lark down eh🙄

I'm limited in terms of ibuprofen and anti-inflammatories Rosie because they can cause thrombocytopenia (low platelets) in me and impact on my kidney function. However I sometimes have to relent! Hopefully yesterday was just a bad day.

Hope you're doing well.