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Educate Derek Thomas MP about diabetes

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email duly sent. I've asked him how I could have prevented myself from becoming diabetic.o_O I look forward to his reply! I hope I make him feel bad!!
 
I hope the doctors who informed him are put in for 'retraining' also - imagine how they must treat their patients if that is what they truly believe? 😱 :(
 
I hope the doctors who informed him are put in for 'retraining' also - imagine how they must treat their patients if that is what they truly believe? 😱 :(
I think the sack might be more appropriate plus at least 10 fingerpricks daily and the associated injections :D (I don't really have sadistic tendencies!)​
 
Have emailed and suggested he contact his diabetic colleagues in the House for their views!!
 
I emailed him. Thinking about I think he should have asked Theresa May why she didn't stop herself from getting diabetes.
 
I already made my thoughts known when he made the gaff, but I actually feel quite sorry for the chap (I know I'm a bleeding heart 🙄). He was trying to be supportive and chivvy people up to get tested and avoid ill health. The fact that he was wrong and misinformed is more indicative of the "media vision" presented to the world by lots of organisations including Diabetes UK sadly (although they are by no means the only ones). That I also realise is a tricky balance, because there are those for whom drastic lifestyle modification will work and you want those people to benefit from that, but if we constantly present type 2 as a lifestyle disease the cycle will continue. There was an article in a magazine I was reading recently about a woman who lot a leg and a foot to diabetes related amputations, because she didn't think it was a serious disease, and neither apparently did the GPs. Why do I mention that? I mention it because it's all part of the same issue. On the one hand you have the media banging on about how obesity and diabetes are linked every five minutes, and DUK rambling on about waist measurements and testing people's blood sugar on buses, then you've got doctors packing people off without information or testing equipment and blood sugars in the high teens and leaving them to it. So I have emailed him (well I will be when I've sent it o_O) to ask him to support better care for diabetes in general, and requesting he challenge some of the media assumptions and his own. There is no point after all in chivvying people to get tested if there's little to no support when they do. I have also suggested that they might like to look into potential correlations between areas with high levels of amputations and the CCG regulations around test strips and the like. I am surprised that DUK haven't done that to be honest, or maybe they have and there isn't a correlation. Maybe I'll put in a freedom of information request and put my 20 plus years of data analysis skill to good use. Sorry I'm off and ranting again....seems I just can't let it go 😱
 
Kooky, that's a good point. There's no point in urging people to come forward and be tested, if there's no support when they have. As a point of comparison, my husband had a Retinal Artery Occlusion the other day ( aka an eye stroke). Because of the National Stroke Initiative, he was referred to the TIA clinic, and spent a whole morning being thoroughly tested for everything, and now there are follow up appointments, further tests, etc. He's very fit, and not overweight, so they are scratching their heads a bit, but if this were diabetes we were talking about, I suspect he'd have been given some pills and a diet sheet and sent on his way.
 
Kooky, that's a good point. There's no point in urging people to come forward and be tested, if there's no support when they have. As a point of comparison, my husband had a Retinal Artery Occlusion the other day ( aka an eye stroke). Because of the National Stroke Initiative, he was referred to the TIA clinic, and spent a whole morning being thoroughly tested for everything, and now there are follow up appointments, further tests, etc. He's very fit, and not overweight, so they are scratching their heads a bit, but if this were diabetes we were talking about, I suspect he'd have been given some pills and a diet sheet and sent on his way.
It is a major problem, I think :( My aftercare was very good after diagnosis, but I think that a) I'm lucky with my surgery and the DSNs at my clinic, and b) a lot of fuss was made about the fact that I had had a suspected heart attack - in fact that was treated much more seriously than the diabetes. I had to seek help with diabetes problems post-diagnosis, but they were on my back all the time about my heart. And c) I'm Type 1.

A couple of years after my diagnosis I was invited by my consultant to act as a patient representative on a committee discussing the future of diabetes care in my area. I was very surprised to hear it was generally very poor quality, and shocked to hear that many areas within the region were particularly bad since it was known that a lot of GPs didn't find diabetes 'sexy' and thought it largely self-inflicted and not worth spending much time on 😱 :( It's no surprise, then, that I hear constantly from people here, particularly Type 2 or potentially misdiagnosed Type1, about the extremely poor levels of care they are receiving. This is what needs addressing - diabetes isn't going to go away, and whilst there should be initiatives to try and educate people to take preventative action for those already diagnosed there should be EVERY effort made to ensure that they are well-educated, provided with appropriate tools and training and regularly assessed. I think this assessment should include discussing test strip readings, individual diets and lifestyles, and a very pro-active approach so that after the first year the 'burden' on the NHS is hugely diminished because the patient is able to successfully self-manage.

The opposite is happening :( It's like they are saying 'we told you not to get it, now you have so don't expect much sympathy because it's your own fault and it's up to you to live with it and the consequences'. Often, those consequences are spelled out to put the fear of god into the patient - that it is progressive, they will inevitably get worse, threaten them with insulin and be continually critical and negative without really having any good advice to offer because the GPs and nurses themselves are covering up their lack of current knowledge. People become depressed, fatalistic, control gets worse (as predicted by the HCPs) and they lose their quality of life :(

Diabetes UK, if they really want to support people with diabetes everywhere, need to take a much harder line in holding the medical profession to account, standards must be raised to those in the best surgeries and clinics. This affects at least 3.5m people and 10% of the NHS budget. The changes uner the new CCGs appear, anecdotally, to be concentrating purely on current cost-reduction by limiting access to care, education and tools, and actually undermining the likelihood of what I have just suggested from ever happening :(
 
Kooky, that's a good point. There's no point in urging people to come forward and be tested, if there's no support when they have. As a point of comparison, my husband had a Retinal Artery Occlusion the other day ( aka an eye stroke). Because of the National Stroke Initiative, he was referred to the TIA clinic, and spent a whole morning being thoroughly tested for everything, and now there are follow up appointments, further tests, etc. He's very fit, and not overweight, so they are scratching their heads a bit, but if this were diabetes we were talking about, I suspect he'd have been given some pills and a diet sheet and sent on his way.
It is a major problem, I think :( My aftercare was very good after diagnosis, but I think that a) I'm lucky with my surgery and the DSNs at my clinic, and b) a lot of fuss was made about the fact that I had had a suspected heart attack - in fact that was treated much more seriously than the diabetes. I had to seek help with diabetes problems post-diagnosis, but they were on my back all the time about my heart. And c) I'm Type 1.

A couple of years after my diagnosis I was invited by my consultant to act as a patient representative on a committee discussing the future of diabetes care in my area. I was very surprised to hear it was generally very poor quality, and shocked to hear that many areas within the region were particularly bad since it was known that a lot of GPs didn't find diabetes 'sexy' and thought it largely self-inflicted and not worth spending much time on 😱 :( It's no surprise, then, that I hear constantly from people here, particularly Type 2 or potentially misdiagnosed Type1, about the extremely poor levels of care they are receiving. This is what needs addressing - diabetes isn't going to go away, and whilst there should be initiatives to try and educate people to take preventative action for those already diagnosed there should be EVERY effort made to ensure that they are well-educated, provided with appropriate tools and training and regularly assessed. I think this assessment should include discussing test strip readings, individual diets and lifestyles, and a very pro-active approach so that after the first year the 'burden' on the NHS is hugely diminished because the patient is able to successfully self-manage.

The opposite is happening :( It's like they are saying 'we told you not to get it, now you have so don't expect much sympathy because it's your own fault and it's up to you to live with it and the consequences'. Often, those consequences are spelled out to put the fear of god into the patient - that it is progressive, they will inevitably get worse, threaten them with insulin and be continually critical and negative without really having any good advice to offer because the GPs and nurses themselves are covering up their lack of current knowledge. People become depressed, fatalistic, control gets worse (as predicted by the HCPs) and they lose their quality of life :(

Diabetes UK, if they really want to support people with diabetes everywhere, need to take a much harder line in holding the medical profession to account, standards must be raised to those in the best surgeries and clinics. This affects at least 3.5m people and 10% of the NHS budget. The changes uner the new CCGs appear, anecdotally, to be concentrating purely on current cost-reduction by limiting access to care, education and tools, and actually undermining the likelihood of what I have just suggested from ever happening :(
 
What's the betting we all get the same reply?
(I don't think he read my email, so I've replied to see what I get back!😉)
Here's the reply I got:
Thank you for taking the time to write to me. You are quite right and I am sorry to have caused distress.
The following is a paragraph I have included in my column this week for the local newspapers.
I have also clarified the distinction between Type 1 and Type 2 Diabetes.
This all started by a request by GPs to bring attention to the suffering and human cost of diabetes. We intend to continue to focus attention on this but I will certainly be much more careful about how I phrase anything I say.
Kind regards
I was wrong to generalise thatdiabetes is avoidable (through diet and exercise). For this I am sorry. The truth is that this is not so with Type 1. Type 1 primarily starts in childhood but can occur at any age and is horrible for them and difficult to manage. Type 2 is largely avoidable. The growth in Type 2 seems closely related to changing lifestyle and diet, has seen the age of presentation dropping in the last decade and is now being seen in children and young adults. Next year the Government will launch its strategy to tackle diabetes and the lesson I have learned is that it is very important a clear distinction is made between Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes. My sincere thanks to everyone who has shared their storywith me. World Diabetes Day is on Saturday November 14th
 
Ah - so T2 isn't difficult for them, and isn't difficult to manage?

So why the hell are all you T2s on here, all the while!

(If you know me, you'll know I don't actually mean that - but this bloke is saying that, not me. Is he fit to BE an MP? No - unless he just keeps this gob shut, cos he's got Foot and Mouth Disease!)
 
Ah - so T2 isn't difficult for them, and isn't difficult to manage?

So why the hell are all you T2s on here, all the while!

(If you know me, you'll know I don't actually mean that - but this bloke is saying that, not me. Is he fit to BE an MP? No - unless he just keeps this gob shut, cos he's got Foot and Mouth Disease!)
He might just be able to claim he was spreading awareness, but the problem is, if the message is misleading then it is worse than worthless :( I'm still angrier at the GPs who gave him the wrong impression. If 'experts' in Egyptology told me Tutankhamen had 15 nipples, and they were backed up by the general body of opinion that this was true, I'd probably have to believe it and pass the gem of knowledge on... 🙄
 
He might just be able to claim he was spreading awareness, but the problem is, if the message is misleading then it is worse than worthless :( I'm still angrier at the GPs who gave him the wrong impression. If 'experts' in Egyptology told me Tutankhamen had 15 nipples, and they were backed up by the general body of opinion that this was true, I'd probably have to believe it and pass the gem of knowledge on... 🙄

The question is, was it actually two GP's who gave him this information? All it say's is two medical professionals, so could quite easily be from the main diabetes centre at Truro. I've had the misfortune of being in that clinic before and walked out as more than substandard imho. People seemed to have mixed results from there ie some good some bad.
 
I got a similar reply to the one that Pottersusan had.
 
Ironically, I was taught about diabetes last year at university and all I took away from it was "type 1 happens in childhood and is auto immune. Type 2 is caused by obesity and laziness nothing else" this stereotype is constantly reinforced in the media.

Yes, my BMI is "obese" (although I like to think I'm too short not too big!!) but I'm not inactive and far from lazy. I'm a 23 year old student nurse and work damn hard. I'm not currently on a ward but 9-5 with the community nurses. However to get there for 9, I set off at 7:15 and I don't get home til about 6:30pm. And I have signed up to a gym recently!
 
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