Food hospital special, C4 now (8pm 31st July)

[Northerner]

Six people with Type 2 put on an extreme diet for 8 weeks.

 

[LeeLee]

So far it has reinforced my dislike of shake-based diets. The food-eaters are having a diet remarkably similar to Slimming World!

 

[HOBIE]

Cant wait for results !!!!!!! 🙂

 

[Salinda]

It's reminded me about portion control, something I am really struggling with.

 

[JohnCo]

What is the milk diet doing to these ladies BG? What are their BG levels? This is a typical TV programme - largely a waste of time!

 

[HOBIE]

Totally dissagree. Education is king 😎

 

[daisymoo84]

It's good to see them losing weight. The pregnancy section scared me though 😱

 

[HOBIE]

Excellent results for all the women involved. There smiles said it all 😎

 

[LeeLee]

Let's hope the two that were told they no longer have diabetes (how they can say that after just 2 months is beyond me) continue to eat healthily - I know how easy it is to back-slide.

 

[HOBIE]

I would give my right arm to have the chance to reverse. And am not kidding 🙂

 

[Northerner]

I didn't like the programme I'm afraid If they had only spent 5 minutes explaining that weight wasn't the ONLY factor in getting Type 2 under control then maybe I would have felt better about it. The implication was that anyone with Type 2 could 'reverse' it if only they lost weight, which isn't true. There was also a lot of scaremongering statistics that aren't helpful to people who have diabetes (whatever type, particularly the pregnancy stats), and there was quite a heavy message about how burdensome people with diabetes are to the NHS, just to slap on a bit of extra guilt.

 

[lucy123]

I didn't like the programme I'm afraid If they had only spent 5 minutes explaining that weight wasn't the ONLY factor in getting Type 2 under control then maybe I would have felt better about it. The implication was that anyone with Type 2 could 'reverse' it if only they lost weight, which isn't true. There was also a lot of scaremongering statistics that aren't helpful to people who have diabetes (whatever type, particularly the pregnancy stats), and there was quite a heavy message about how burdensome people with diabetes are to the NHS, just to slap on a bit of extra guilt.

I agree with you Alan - nearly caused an argument in my house re if you are overweigth you get diabetes v if you have diabetes 2 you put on weight.

Also, I really can't believe they put the Morrison cake shop advert on straight afterwards!

 

[Abi]

I never saw it but if it's one of those diets based on "meal replacements" such as shakes then I suspect it's not really solving the problem- people need to be re educated and taught about nutrition and how to prepare diabetes and weight friendly meals- i.e. extreme caution with carbs, heavy on vegetables/ salad and lean protein. I would assume these type of meal replacements are expensive anyhow

 

[LeeLee]

I never saw it but if it's one of those diets based on "meal replacements" such as shakes then I suspect it's not really solving the problem- people need to be re educated and taught about nutrition and how to prepare diabetes and weight friendly meals- i.e. extreme caution with carbs, heavy on vegetables/ salad and lean protein. I would assume these type of meal replacements are expensive anyhow

Three people were on a shakes-only 800 calorie diet, the other three had 1600 calories of healthy food (lots of veg, limited carbs).

 

[Pumper_Sue]

I never saw it but if it's one of those diets based on "meal replacements" such as shakes then I suspect it's not really solving the problem- people need to be re educated and taught about nutrition and how to prepare diabetes and weight friendly meals- i.e. extreme caution with carbs, heavy on vegetables/ salad and lean protein. I would assume these type of meal replacements are expensive anyhow

Hi Abi, the shakes were prescription only, so even if only vits and minerals as NHS paying it easy money 🙄

Looking at one of the plates it looked as if it had both bread and spuds on it 😱
The meals looked huge on those plates, so smaller plates would be a better option as the eye can deceive. Personally I could not eat what was on the plates. Way to much.

That Dr needs to go back to school as well, you can't reverse/cure diabetes you always have it, either controlled or not as the case may be.

 

[Zuckerkranke]

I could not believe my eyes when I saw what was in that first meal they had as part of their diet. Two great big portions of cheese. NO, NO, NO! It's full of saturated fat and my dietician said I should avoid it.

I recall no mention of increased risk of Diabetes if anyone in your family has it.

My Hba1c level is below 6.5. Have I reversed? No, I have not although I would like to.

 

[yorksman]

From what I have seen, the Channel 4 production is typical of the media's preference for contention rather than explanation. It claims that the Counterpoint Study at Newcastle relies on the hypocalorific diet of 800 calories per day. It doesn't. Roy Taylor specifically states:

"Previous research has shown that steady weight loss over a 5 ? 6 month period is more likely to be successful in keeping weight down in the long term. For this reason, I would not recommend a very low calorie diet initially for most people with type 2 diabetes."

He couldn't be clearer. He explains the reason why they used a hypocalorific diet in the experiment:

"The particular diet used in the study was designed to mimic the sudden reduction of calorie intake that occurs after gastric bypass surgery. By using such a vigorous approach, we were testing whether we could reverse diabetes in a similar short time period to that observed after surgery."

But he stresses:

"The essential point is that substantial weight loss must be achieved. The time course of weight loss is much less important."

and also:

"It is also very important to emphasise that sustainability of weight loss is the most important thing to ensure that diabetes stays away after the initial weight loss"

The only reason those women are being given milk shakes is for entertainment value. The study they cite doesn't think it is necessary and nor do they recommend it.

Further information on the research on Reversing Type 2 Diabetes

 

[Sheilagh1958]

I hVe just watched this programme think it would of been better if we had seen the ladies or even the doctor testing there BG levels especially when the lady felt faint.

Was pleased that all the ladies had lost weight especially the young girl. 🙂

But the programme could and should of been more informative 😱