Type ones - what don't you eat?

[Lizzzie]

I've always bought into the whole 'type 1 diabetics don't need to eat any differently from the next person, although everyone should eat healthily' thing. I have a low HcA1c and eat chocolate, trifle, cake, fruit fairly often. This does tend to upset people: Even my own Dad asked me if I was allowed chocolate the other day: I was the only one who didn't get chocolates from Dad for Christmas because he couldn't remember if I could eat them!
I have given up swigging fruit juice from the bottle, because that makes me spike and I do restrict fruit juice now. But otherwise, I have good control and enjoy food ( though knowing the carbs for counting takes the fun
Out a little bit).

All this time IVe been preaching the 'of course I can! Type 1s can eat normally!' message.

Looking at posts on here recently though, I'm beginning to wondr if ive got it wrong.... Those type 1s who do restrict your diets, is it for 'healthy eating' reasons or is it because you are diabetic? Am I missing something?

I Should add that apart from the srog I'm not overweight

Those of you who do

 

[bennyg70]

I think its each to their own & everything in moderation.

For example...

Last night I ate a few new potatoes, broccoli carrotts beans roast peppers and a chicken fillet fo tea. Quite healthy approx 40 carbs. Low fat & injected 30 mins before. I spiked at 11 at 1 hour however this came down to 8 at 2 hours and 5 at 3 hours.

Cant say im overly pleased with spiking at an hour but im guessing the potatoes do this to me.

A couple of hours later I treated myself to a fat apple crumble with ice cream. Really naughty, carb laden @ 80g . 1 hour - 4.6mmol, 2 hours 6mmol, then I woke up this morning @ 4.5 mmol.

Couldnt be better...!

Apple crumble every night for tea for me!

 

[robofski]

I'm quite like you Lizzzie, I still pretty much eat whatever I want but what has changed for me most is snacking! That's really becuase I can't be bothered to inject for a snack so I pretty much just go without, not a bad thing, I used to eat far to many crisps and the like anyway!

 

[Pumper_Sue]

The only things I don't eat are things I do not like. The list is long

Lizzie.......... to my way of thinking, as you have good control than oviously you are not doing anything wrong. 🙂

 

[Robster65]

I eat pretty much anything that won't cause me more problems than it's worth. We all have our own taboo list I' sure.

The thing that's starting to trouble me is, in line with the healthy eating message, which foods might be causing hidden problems.

ie. are there food types (sugary/fatty) that maybe 'encourage' fat round the organs (ie. the visceral fat that we hear about)?

Or does maintaining a healthy weight so that you burn off the calories mean you can eat pretty much anything without adverse effects, assuming a healthy intake of vits and minerals?

Rob

 

[AlisonF]

I can eat anything, but I choose to eat some things less than others. ie I know I struggle more with pizza and curry so I will eat them, but only very occassionally. This decision is helped by the fact that they're loaded with fat anyway so hardly a good choice as a daily meal option!

 

[Lizzzie]

A-ha! Thanks folks. So it looks like a health choice or some people and a 'I don't want to eat that now because injecting / working out the carbs will be a pain in the neck' for others, which I can def identify with....

Keep it coming, I'm interested how different they are for everybody.....

 

[bennyg70]

I can eat anything, but I choose to eat some things less than others. ie I know I struggle more with pizza and curry so I will eat them, but only very occassionally. This decision is helped by the fact that they're loaded with fat anyway so hardly a good choice as a daily meal option!

Definatley agree with this as it effects me the same, although I have figured a way to deal with it now with split doses. However It does mean for my 1 hours of indulgence for an indian meal out say, I end up thinking about when i next need to inject or test for the next four hours. So Its very occasional!! However ... It tastes so much better now, rather than twice a week or more 😛

On A lighter note and going off on a tangent... I dont eat cheese... Not because Of diabetes, general health, or because I dont like the taste. Its because I have a genuine fear of it. I cant be in the same room as it. Im even scred of cheese cake !!!

 

[trophywench]

I'm on the 'I eat everything' list too. Also the 'I stopped snacking ages ago cos I couldn't be arsed to bolus' list, even though I now have a pump and it couldn't be easier - except you STILL have to think about it - and that's the bit I hate. So sod their ruddy snacks I say, let them stick em where the sun don't shine.

But there again if I happen to decide I WILL eat whatever at whichever time or place, then Yes I will bother!

Benny of course your spuds spiked you! that's exactly what you get for eating low fat. Convert em into medium term spikes (so they better match the insulin action) by adding FAT. Simples. Nice knob of BUTTER on em is the answer, or give up skinless chicken breasts and eat proper ones, succulent and juicy, basted in all the fat under the chicken skin as they cook. Don't have to eat the actual skin if you're dead set against doing it, do you?

Not keen on aubergines, soggy courgettes though love the latter raw and wouldn't touch tripe, gesiers or andouillettes, not keen on mussels, hate oysters, wouldn't touch whelks or cockles. Or escargots. Or Cuisses de Grenouilles LOL but most of these aren't really too much of a prob shopping in Tesco! Oh, cottage cheese. Loathe the consistency of it. Am a bit 'want to upchuck' at macaroni too. These days I scarcely ever chance to meet a caraway seed - so that's a relief. Feel the same way about biting into a cardamom pod or a plethora of coriander, though parsley I love. But the whole of this paragraph is just personal preference.

Benny OTOH has a Phobia ....... 😱

 

[bennyg70]

I'm on the 'I eat everything' list too. Also the 'I stopped snacking ages ago cos I couldn't be arsed to bolus' list, even though I now have a pump and it couldn't be easier - except you STILL have to think about it - and that's the bit I hate. So sod their ruddy snacks I say, let them stick em where the sun don't shine.

But there again if I happen to decide I WILL eat whatever at whichever time or place, then Yes I will bother!

Benny of course your spuds spiked you! that's exactly what you get for eating low fat. Convert em into medium term spikes (so they better match the insulin action) by adding FAT. Simples. Nice knob of BUTTER on em is the answer, or give up skinless chicken breasts and eat proper ones, succulent and juicy, basted in all the fat under the chicken skin as they cook. Don't have to eat the actual skin if you're dead set against doing it, do you?

Not keen on aubergines, soggy courgettes though love the latter raw and wouldn't touch tripe, gesiers or andouillettes, not keen on mussels, hate oysters, wouldn't touch whelks or cockles. Or escargots. Or Cuisses de Grenouilles LOL but most of these aren't really too much of a prob shopping in Tesco! Oh, cottage cheese. Loathe the consistency of it. Am a bit 'want to upchuck' at macaroni too. These days I scarcely ever chance to meet a caraway seed - so that's a relief. Feel the same way about biting into a cardamom pod or a plethora of coriander, though parsley I love. But the whole of this paragraph is just personal preference.

Benny OTOH has a Phobia ....... 😱

Im recently discovering the add a bit off fat to limit the spike, although its finding the happy medium to avoid the full on pizza effect where ill spike 4 hours later instead!!

My phobia is called turaphobia... ! apparently

 

[trophywench]

That's disappointing, I really wanted it to be fromage-ophobia ....

Just thinking, that's the best excuse I've ever heard for not making a cuppa (ie cheese is in fridge, fridge is in kitchen, so is kettle etc ....)

And it saves me inviting you in for a cuppa or summat stronger should we ever meet you somewhere along the way in our motorhome!

 

[Robster65]

Im even scred of cheese cake !!!

The man who is scared of cheesecake is tired of life.

As Samuel Johnson might have said if he knew what a cheesecake was. 🙄

Cheesecake is my greatest indulgence and makes life worth living.

Get thee to a counsellor immediately and find a cure!

Rob

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I'm on the 'I eat everything' list too. Also the 'I stopped snacking ages ago cos I couldn't be arsed to bolus' list, even though I now have a pump and it couldn't be easier - except you STILL have to think about it - and that's the bit I hate.

Hehe! Snap.

I was going to write 'nothing', but then I started thinking about it - and actually it's nothing never, but some things hardly ever (says he with the feelgood feeling of a slab of carrot cake still gently glowing inside).

Here's my list of nevers
1. Breakfast cereal (all cereal is evil) with the very occasional exception if I'm in a porridge mood.
2. Fruit juice - plenty of other drinks I prefer
3. Carby snacks - generally no, but when I want one I have one

There are a bunch of things I don't eat freely (eg chocolate), but that's mostly because the frustration I feel when I guess the bolus and/or dose stacking wrong completely overwhelms the pleasure of the thing itself.

Nothing never, some things just not very often.

This is why I think T2s have it so hard. Hats off to them all.

 

[DeusXM]

Nothing's on my 'never' list (except for fish, eugh!) but I deliberately try not to eat either gnocchi or baguette, which is a shame because I love them. They're just too much of a nightmare to bolus for.

 

[trophywench]

Baguette LOL - I have it, weigh each slice up in my hand, guesstimate and proceed to fill the holes up with Normandy butter. Enjoy.

Then take a bottle of Lucozade for a walk. LOL

 

[Abi]

Don't eat shellfish as I'm scared of a nasty dose of food poisoning, THis is probably ridiculous as really you only have to buy a sandwich from a place that's none too hygienic , or seriously P*** off a waiter who then needs to exact revenge on you, I suppose to get a nasty dose of the trots
Can't stand cottage cheeses-some other cheeses - mainly soft, smelly or blue and edam.
Don't like milk
Generally will eat most other things. Some are too much hassle in terms of control to bother with much so only have on occasional ( Indian, big portions of pasta, cereal, rich desserts). The only bolus worthy fluids are good quality of home made soups or beer, in my opinion ( luckily can drink wine til the cows come home without needing to bolus)
The only cheesecake I like is my mum's ( continental type- about a foot deep, cottage cheese cream gelatine egg whites and lemon on a biscuit base- nice slightly sweet emony tang- others fast too much of cottage cheese or have other 'ROGUE" ingredients such as butterscotch making them too sickly sweet) Agree with Sedge re texture of cottage cheese making me want to throw up- works in mum;s cheesecake but otherwise inedible

 

[Abi]

Oh and nice crusty ciabbatta. locally baked granary, artisan breads etc etc with or without salted butter can be as hard to bolus as they like- I will not give them up!

 

[Northerner]

My tastes have changed, largely for the reason already given - that I won't 'bolus for a biscuit'. I only snack on nuts now, whereas pre-diagnosis I was a big crisp eater and quite a lot of biscuits. I haven't given up on suasage and mash, but I have two sausages these days, rather than four. Stopped eating cereals - too much of a spike. No fruit juice or glasses of milk. Generally find 'fatty' foods unpleasant, so have gone off pizza largely.

Some of this is due to my diabetes, but I suspect some of the changes are simply due to me getting older and being more conscious about my mortality!

 

[trophywench]

Oh and nice crusty ciabbatta. locally baked granary, artisan breads etc etc with or without salted butter can be as hard to bolus as they like- I will not give them up!

So when are we going on a bread testing road trip Abi? - strictly selfless and all in the interest of fellow diabolics, of course!

We can go in our motorhome, as soon as we've been to France again to stock up on real Normandy butter from Normandy. TG our new one has a bigger fridge, but of course we'll take it out of there in plenty of time to spread it in waves and fill up all the holes in the bread LOL

Our starter for 10, Chester Food and Drink Fair at the end of March?

 

[FM001]

Table sugar, full sugar soft drinks, cakes and sugar coated cereals, everything else is eaten within limits.

Foods never eaten and can't stand are celery, olives, oysters, tripe, pickled gherkins and some fish.