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Hypos

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novorapidboi26

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Just going through my diary records and noted the number of hypos I have in any month:

January: 14
February: 23
March: 18
April: 21

Do others have similar amounts or more/less?
 
I think it depends on what you define as 'hypos'.

Ok, I know there's an official definition, but personally I look on 'hypos' and 'a bit of low blood sugar' as completely different things.

For me, a 'hypo' is a full on erk-panic moment, total sugar crash, need a good sit down for an hour or so to get back to normal kind of job.

'A bit of low blood sugar' is getting a bit hungry and sweaty, popping a couple of tabs and getting on with your day.

On that basis, I don't have any hypos a month. I get a bit of low blood sugar maybe 2-3 times a week.
 
Well, if I was having the hypos you describe on a regular basis, something would be wrong for sure........

The times I have recorded have been between 2.0 and 4.0...........🙂
 
Astonishingly, I only had two in April (including a 1.7 😱), but over the past two days I've had 2 - a 3.0 and 2.9.
 
January: 17
February: 7
March: 23
April: 30
 
January: 17
February: 7
March: 23
April: 30

Not that dissimilar to me then............

I have been noticing that I am having more and that my symptoms, although still present and strong, are coming at lower levels, like below 3...........

Getting my HbA1c done on the 15th, so I am hoping there is a significant reduction, but then I don't want to have more hypos just to achieve a better result........:(
 
Good luck with the Hba1c NRB - I hope its lowered for you.🙂
 
Not had any nasties (as described by DeusX) for years. Last couple of months look like this:

March
Between 3-4 = 13 (prob half of these are >3.6)
Less than 3 = 5 (one at 2.3 others >2.8)

April
Between 3-4 = 15 (prob half of these are >3.6)
Less than 3 = 1 (a 2.9)

So still too many, but *much* better than they have been years ago where it would have been more than one 'low level dip' a day on average 😱
 
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So it would seem I am normal then, or at least as normal as the rest of you...............:D
 
mmmm.....I need to download some data and look at my basals again....for the last 14 days I have had 11 readings under 4 and 6 have been 2.9 or lower (lowest 2.2)
 
I have been noticing that I am having more and that my symptoms, although still present and strong, are coming at lower levels, like below 3...........

You should be a bit concerned about this. Regular hypos (aside from indicating something's wrong with your treatment regime) also mean you end up losing your hypo awareness. You really don't want this to happen. It's great you're still having symptoms but if they're not kicking in until you hit the 2s, you are losing your 'cushion' of awareness which means you could get caught out quite badly.

You're absolutely right that you don't want a lower A1c because of hypos - this is something the old DCCT trial noted which has still informed a lot of the dogma around treatment goals. There is a view in the medical profession that T1s shouldn't aim for 'normal' A1Cs. This is because the DCCT trial (conducted before flat profile basals and the variety of bolus insulins were available) found that those with lower A1cs had more hypos. With the advances in treatment in the last 20 years, it is possible (if not easy) for T1s to acheive A1cs in the 4.5-6% range without having loads of hypos. This wasn't possible 20 years ago.

The result of this was that medical professionals keep assuming that if you have a good A1c as T1, you 'must' be having loads of hypos, which is why they persist in telling people that A1cs over 7 are satisfactory (full disclosure: my last A1c was 7.1% so it's not like "I'm alright Jack"). Also because of the way A1c works, if you get an A1c that is 'good' but are having loads of hypos, you're still having too many high blood sugar incidences and so the A1c largely becomes meaningless as a barometer of control.

Good luck in cutting down your hypos.
 
I am concerned....

Apart from the lows that sometimes follow alcohol, the ones recently have had no real explanation, no pattern, so no grounds to change anything. A small increase in activity might be the cause........

I don't feel the hypos are excessive though, and it seems others are having similar numbers of them. But it my body continues to get used to them, I might need to increase my targets to the higher end of the scale....
 
I really like this one!
3-4 <3
January 16 4
February 17 9
March 14 10
April 16 5

I don't feel too bad now! Although I think my problem is more that I have a HUGE range of results too, my meter 'Target' records the above and the 'over 10' results

January 38.2%
February 29.3%
March 24.9%
April 36%

I am hoping the possibility of a pump will help me!!

(hope these numbers print OK)
 
I am sure yo are normal ! Its one of those things i DONT wright down, pump records & i look at graphs ! Scarey😱 Its a right job 2b perfect 🙄
 
(meant to quote reply by DeusXM) I was just composing my results when this came through

I am going to copy this to quote to my GP! It is the clearest explanation I have seen of the argument we need to have with them about acheiving a decent HbA1c. am really struggling to get mine down, and while I could improve on hypos, that's not the only issue. This forum is SO valuable!
 
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Mine's on the 11th 😱 then my review is on the 31st 😱

Even without the fancy machine (which my clinic used to have, giving results in only a few minutes), the test/results/consultant appointment all happens on the same day fortunately..........🙂

This time I am going to ask for the services of the dietician, a service I have never used, which is strange, as I am obviously overweight, which no doubt makes it more difficult to manage my blood sugars, yet no one (HCPs) has seemed bothered about it......:confused:
 
This time I am going to ask for the services of the dietician, a service I have never used

Give it a go, but in my personal experience, most dieticians are relatively clueless when it comes to deciding what is a good diet for someone with diabetes.

For instance, I've had dieticians in the past tell me it's ok to eat as much fruit as I like. Unfortunately, doing so plays havoc with my blood sugar. It's a better option than eating cake, yes, but my feeling is telling someone with D that it's ok to eat plenty of bananas isn't a smart move.

There also seems to be a strange disconnect between the actual facts about insulin and fat storage. Most dieticians will tell you that high fat foods are bad for you because they clog your arteries. Yet in the same instance, they will tell you that you need to burn up more body fat. There's no metabolic difference between fat on your plate and fat on your belly - so why is it that metabolising dietary fat is apparently artery clogging etc, yet metabolising your own body fat is a completely benign process? The other thing to bear in mind is ask them to list what they would consider fatty foods. You'll get things like chips or burgers or pizza. Do make sure you ask them which is the largest macronutrient in all those things, and then ask why they're called 'fatty' foods when there's another component that's clearly larger.

Many dieticians will also affirm that you should eat plenty of carbs instead of fat 'to prevent hypos', and that by eating less fat, you'll lose weight. If they tell you this, firstly ask them, what will happen to your insulin intake if you eat more carbs. Then ask them, what hormone processes carbohydrate to be stored as fat - clue, it's insulin. Then see if they can keep a straight face when you ask them how taking more fat storage hormone, and more stuff that the hormone converts to fat, will make you lose weight.

For the record, I'm not a low-carber - I love my bread and my pasta and I'll always include those in my diet for as long as I'm able to adequately cover them with insulin and not gain weight. The point is that the diet advice offered by the NHS is frankly riddled with holes that fall apart the moment you look at the science and beyond the perceived wisdom. There are very few out there in the NHS prepared to consider diet options beyond the usual 50% of every meal must be starchy carbs and you must snack regularly - and then they wonder why so many people get complications!

There are people in there though who are prepared to consider that the best approach is find what works for your health goals, rather than stick to a 'this is the food pyramid and it's what you must do' routine. Hope your dietician is one of them.
 
I don't really think I eat fatty foods, I know I don't...........I think activity levels and portion size may be an issue, so advice on that will be welcome......but also to discuss what they think someone of my age, height, build should be eating and if my diabetes has changed my metabolism a lot or not at all, that kind of thing........

I certainly don't expect to come away with anything useful, but would at least like a discussion on the topic......
 
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