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Katieb

Katieb

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I'm really fed up today!:( As some of you know I have struggled to get my fasting bg under 6 but this week I have seen some of my best waking numbers - 5.3-5.8 most days. However...had roast chicken, 3 small new potatoes, cauliflower, broccoli and roast carrots for dinner. Went to bed on 5.7 then woke to 6.7! One hour after breakfast 8.8! Had one weetabix because I'm off to the gym in a minute and thought I'd be OK. I'm never sure a) what to do to deal with the dreaded dp and b) what to do when my bg is higher than I'd like before breakfast! My morning numbers are my big sticking point at them moment. Does anyone else have this problem/any ideas? :confused:
 
Your readings are within recommended targets for Type 2 diabetes (NICE 2008)
Before meals: 4-7mmol/l
Two hours after meals: less than 8.5mmol/l
Almost certainly, your blood glucose will be below 8.5mmol 2 hours after eating.
Enjoy the gym this morning.
 
Hi Katie,
Don't let today's readings worry you because it will only add to the pressure you're putting yourself under. You are doing brilliantly and as I said before you can only do what you're doing; weight loss; healthy eating; increased physical exercise. Stress and anxiety can increase you're readings. Just see it as a blip and carry on doing what you're doing.

I know its easy for me to say when I've already been diagnosed but we're in it together and will support each other. Big hug {{{}}}} Amanda x 🙂

You might want to consider changing you're signature so that it states you are pre-diabetes.
 
Copepod said:
Your readings are within recommended targets for Type 2 diabetes (NICE 2008)
Before meals: 4-7mmol/l
Two hours after meals: less than 8.5mmol/l
Almost certainly, your blood glucose will be below 8.5mmol 2 hours after eating.
Enjoy the gym this morning.
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Thankyou for your support. I have been diagnosed with impaired glucose tolerance and am battling hard to avoid the onset of diabetes. I am doing everything I can ie. diet, exercise, weight loss, but just get so despondent at times! I live my life as if I have diabetes, because I feel that's the best way to deal with it and as diabetes runs in my family I have been told that I "most probably will" develop full blown diabetes regardless of what I do, but that my actions may delay it. I also feel I have been sent away and told to just get on with it and without this forum would feel I have no support. Thanks for yours!🙂
 
Newtothis said:
Hi Katie,
Don't let today's readings worry you because it will only add to the pressure you're putting yourself under. You are doing brilliantly and as I said before you can only do what you're doing; weight loss; healthy eating; increased physical exercise. Stress and anxiety can increase you're readings. Just see it as a blip and carry on doing what you're doing.

I know its easy for me to say when I've already been diagnosed but we're in it together and will support each other. Big hug {{{}}}} Amanda x 🙂

You might want to consider changing you're signature so that it states you are pre-diabetes.
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Good advice! Have done it! Katiexx
 
Katie, you have exactly the right approach in my opinion - a diet and lifestyle which is healthy for a person with diabetes is just as healthy for one without! There are just a few extra choices we need to make when considering different carbs and perhaps quantities. Keep up the good work! 🙂
 
Northerner said:
Katie, you have exactly the right approach in my opinion - a diet and lifestyle which is healthy for a person with diabetes is just as healthy for one without! There are just a few extra choices we need to make when considering different carbs and perhaps quantities. Keep up the good work! 🙂
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Thankyou. Don't know what I'd do without you all sometimes!!🙂
 
Hi Katie, we should start the Northerner Appreciation Society - what would WE do without him.... Amanda x 🙂
 
Katieb said:
I'm really fed up today!:( As some of you know I have struggled to get my fasting bg under 6 but this week I have seen some of my best waking numbers - 5.3-5.8 most days. However...had roast chicken, 3 small new potatoes, cauliflower, broccoli and roast carrots for dinner. Went to bed on 5.7 then woke to 6.7! One hour after breakfast 8.8! Had one weetabix because I'm off to the gym in a minute and thought I'd be OK. I'm never sure a) what to do to deal with the dreaded dp and b) what to do when my bg is higher than I'd like before breakfast! My morning numbers are my big sticking point at them moment. Does anyone else have this problem/any ideas? :confused:
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Sorry you are fed up, it's a pain isn't it :( As you know I have the same thing. I can only get mine under 6 in the morning if I have NO carbs or sugar the previous day.

I tend to have a no carb breakfast as the morning is often the hardest time for your body to deal with carbs. For me, I find that if I wake up higher than I would like, if I have a proteiny breakfast it then falls lower.

Have you read the Gretchen book about the first year after being diagnosed Type 2? I am re-reading it at the moment (I read bits of it when I had gestational diabetes) and there is a surprising amount about IGT/IFT.

Hope you have had a good day and feel a bit happier this evening xxx
 
Hi Mrs ZeeBee. My bg seems to randomly go below 6 in the morning, but like I said for no apparent reason jumps back over 6 sometimes. If I wake with a high (for me) number, eating breakfast kickstarts my system and my numbers drop down again. Sometimes there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it! Having a carb free dinner in the evening doesn't seem to work.

I have bought and read the Gretchen Becker book and it has taught me a lot. However, because D is such an individual thing, it seems to me to be trial and error and monitoring and it's so hard to keep a grip on things sometimes. I feel a bit better this evening, thanks. After breakfast I went to the gym for an hour, then re-tested my bg which was 5! I treated myself to a low fat, home made scotch egg and salad! Yum! No breadcrumbs of course and cooked in the oven.

I am hoping that as I head towards my ideal BMI that my numbers will come down. Combined with my increased exercise it should help.

I was diagnosed and told to come back in a year! What about you? I had an oral glucose tolerance test and HbA1c but never asked about the numbers. They would have meant nothing to me back then. I am tempted to go back to the doctors for another HbA1c in November (6 months after diagnosis) to see if I've made any progress! Did you have any symptoms? I went to the docs feeling just generally below par - nothing specific - and after a load of tests they discovered that my fasting bg was on the high side of normal.

Thanks for posting a reply. It really helps to talk to others in the same boat! The very best of luck to you and keep in touch. Katiex🙂
 
Katieb said:
Hi Mrs ZeeBee. My bg seems to randomly go below 6 in the morning, but like I said for no apparent reason jumps back over 6 sometimes. If I wake with a high (for me) number, eating breakfast kickstarts my system and my numbers drop down again. Sometimes there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to it! Having a carb free dinner in the evening doesn't seem to work.

I have bought and read the Gretchen Becker book and it has taught me a lot. However, because D is such an individual thing, it seems to me to be trial and error and monitoring and it's so hard to keep a grip on things sometimes. I feel a bit better this evening, thanks. After breakfast I went to the gym for an hour, then re-tested my bg which was 5! I treated myself to a low fat, home made scotch egg and salad! Yum! No breadcrumbs of course and cooked in the oven.

I am hoping that as I head towards my ideal BMI that my numbers will come down. Combined with my increased exercise it should help.

I was diagnosed and told to come back in a year! What about you? I had an oral glucose tolerance test and HbA1c but never asked about the numbers. They would have meant nothing to me back then. I am tempted to go back to the doctors for another HbA1c in November (6 months after diagnosis) to see if I've made any progress! Did you have any symptoms? I went to the docs feeling just generally below par - nothing specific - and after a load of tests they discovered that my fasting bg was on the high side of normal.

Thanks for posting a reply. It really helps to talk to others in the same boat! The very best of luck to you and keep in touch. Katiex🙂
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Hello again,
My situation is slight different from yours in that I have just had gestatioanl diabetes. I was beautifully looked after, I honestly can't fault the care we recieved. Last week was my postnatal review with the hospital team and the message was that yes I have impaired fasting glucose, but my care now returns to my GP. They would write to my GP to let them know.

I was told that I am at very high risk of developing Type 2 diabetes in a couple of years (because of my weight and the amount of insulin I ended up on which suggests I am very insulin resistant?). I was advised to lose a 'significant' amount of weight and monitor - although the doctor did go on to explain that as an impaired person I wouldn't be prescribed test strips. He suggested I go to see the nurse once a month to be weighed and have my levels tested.

I have my 8 week post natal check in a couple of weeks so will speak to the doctor then and see what they say. If they don't have time to discuss it then I will go back. But I imagine it will be similar to what you have experienced, lose weight, exercise more and keep an eye on it ...

I will let you know what they say!

Sounds a good plan for you to go back sooner. Although taking control ourselves and keeping levels low while losing weight and exercising does seem to be the way forward regardless of what support we get from the HCPs!

xxx
 
MrsZeeBee said:
Hello again,
My situation is slight different from yours in that I have just had gestatioanl diabetes. I was beautifully looked after, I honestly can't fault the care we recieved. Last week was my postnatal review with the hospital team and the message was that yes I have impaired fasting glucose, but my care now returns to my GP. They would write to my GP to let them know.

I was told that I am at very high risk of developing Type 2 diabetes in a couple of years (because of my weight and the amount of insulin I ended up on which suggests I am very insulin resistant?). I was advised to lose a 'significant' amount of weight and monitor - although the doctor did go on to explain that as an impaired person I wouldn't be prescribed test strips. He suggested I go to see the nurse once a month to be weighed and have my levels tested.

I have my 8 week post natal check in a couple of weeks so will speak to the doctor then and see what they say. If they don't have time to discuss it then I will go back. But I imagine it will be similar to what you have experienced, lose weight, exercise more and keep an eye on it ...

I will let you know what they say!

Sounds a good plan for you to go back sooner. Although taking control ourselves and keeping levels low while losing weight and exercising does seem to be the way forward regardless of what support we get from the HCPs!

xxx
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You are doing brilliantly well especially juggling a new baby too!🙂 Keep up the good work and hope all goes well at 8 week check-up. Let us know how you get on. Take care and thanks for your support🙂Katiexxx
 
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