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C*5_Dodger said:
Dear Bev,

Oh dear! I think my view point is getting me into hot water - so I'll say the minimum possible. A "balanced" diet sounds so intuitively correct doesn't it! However, when you delve deeply into the subject, as I have done, you find that nothing could be further from the truth. For some 2 million years our species have been hunter-gatherers and so our physiology reflects that. Agriculture is only some 10 thousand years old and so cultivated carbohydrates are a new food that we have not had time to adapt to. Yes, we can tolerate some (mainly low GI) carbohydrates but NOT the highly refined stuff that pushed at us in the local supermarket. There are traditional hunter-gatherers that eat practically NO carbohydrates e.g. the Inuit (Eskimos) living in the far North where no plants grow. Now if this was not a viable way of life they would not be around today! So the question is, how much carbohyrate do we need. You may find it surprising but the answer is NONE! It is said that the brain must have carbohydrates for fuel to provide it with energy but in actual fact it can run extremely well on ketones. It is questionable if I eat 100 gms of carbohydrate in a week so I am in ketosis more than 50% of the time. I can asssure you that at no time have I ever suffered any untoward effects of this (the Eskimos must be in ketosis all the time)

Warmest Regards Dodger
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Hear hear !!!!!! Finally someone who agrees with my take on the Carbs issue , each to

their own and I'm certainly all for doing what is best for the individual , but I do think

that us individuals who Carb Free are often thought of as freaks .
 
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Dodger and Insulinaddict,

I dont think anyone thinks your freaks! I suspect most people are just trying to educate themselves on the pro's and con's of carb eating as opposed to carb free!
Personally i wouldnt change Alex's diet to low carbs as he is 11 and its too big a decision for me to make on his behalf - if he chooses to do this when is older then that will be his choice.:D

I personally feel that if something is working well for you and you are getting the results you want then thats brilliant! So keep doing what your doing if thats what your happy with.:D Bev
 
I would just like to add to my earlier comment that I am in no way implying

in anyway that people on this forum have or have had that attitude with me

in anyway at all. If anything people have helped and supported me in

everyway possible . Thankyou all :D
 
bev said:
Dodger and Insulinaddict,

I dont think anyone thinks your freaks! I suspect most people are just trying to educate themselves on the pro's and con's of carb eating as opposed to carb free!
Personally i wouldnt change Alex's diet to low carbs as he is 11 and its too big a decision for me to make on his behalf - if he chooses to do this when is older then that will be his choice.:D

I personally feel that if something is working well for you and you are getting the results you want then thats brilliant! So keep doing what your doing if thats what your happy with.:D Bev
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Hi Bev , I totally agree with you with regards to Alex's diet , if he was my

child I'm sure I would feel the same , he is afterall still growing and I'm

certain he will be using Carbs to his bodies advantage. I on the other hand

am no longer growing and I am no doubt less active than an 11yr old boy !!!

I think we should all do our best to stay as healthy as possible and if that

means Carb free for some and not others then so be it .
 
insulinaddict09 said:
Ha ha no cake is worth the extra Insulin i have to take to cover it Twin !!!

I'll find other ways to enjoy myself that are carb free 😉😉
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Ah, well you've obviously never had one of my cakes then....! 😉

But seriously, the whole carbs, low carbs, no carbs etc debate is going to one that we keep going back to and I think it does come down to a personal choice, and our own personal experiences of what carbs do to us. I've done low carb before, which worked perfectly well, but I now have plenty of carbs and find that it works better for me in terms of energy for my running etc (again, a personal thing) and I can achieve the same level of control this way. But I certainly don't think there's anything wrong with a low carbohydrate approach if that's what works for you.
 
aymes said:
Ah, well you've obviously never had one of my cakes then....! 😉

But seriously, the whole carbs, low carbs, no carbs etc debate is going to one that we keep going back to and I think it does come down to a personal choice, and our own personal experiences of what carbs do to us. I've done low carb before, which worked perfectly well, but I now have plenty of carbs and find that it works better for me in terms of energy for my running etc (again, a personal thing) and I can achieve the same level of control this way. But I certainly don't think there's anything wrong with a low carbohydrate approach if that's what works for you.
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Hi Aymes , Well maybe your cake would temp me then lol . Did you post a pic

in another thread of your cakes? If so I saw them they look lovely!!!
 
insulinaddict09 said:
Hi Aymes , Well maybe your cake would temp me then lol . Did you post a pic

in another thread of your cakes? If so I saw them they look lovely!!!
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oops, yes I did (eurovision cakes!), now I look a little cake obsessed....! I'm not I promise!
 
aymes said:
Ah, well you've obviously never had one of my cakes then....! 😉

But seriously, the whole carbs, low carbs, no carbs etc debate is going to one that we keep going back to and I think it does come down to a personal choice, and our own personal experiences of what carbs do to us. I've done low carb before, which worked perfectly well, but I now have plenty of carbs and find that it works better for me in terms of energy for my running etc (again, a personal thing) and I can achieve the same level of control this way. But I certainly don't think there's anything wrong with a low carbohydrate approach if that's what works for you.
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Dear amyes,

I think your post sums it up perfectly, we need to do what works for us. I would not dream of asking people to change as a result of my experiences. I am too old to run anymore but can still walk for miles. I would just ask everyone to think that 2 teaspoons of sugar (sucrose) can raise type 2s (and type 1s for that matter if they have no insulin in their system) blood sugar by up to 5.8mmol/L depending how far along the path to complete Beta-cell failure they are - so we type 2s need to treat carbohydrates with respect!

Regards Dodger
 
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ty nikki hope you dnt mind me calling you that , i shall x
 
Steff,

Try and get a phone number so you can contact your dsn whenever you want for a quick chat, it might be possible.

I intend going back in a bit just to go over a few things as it's still new to me too. I was going to get her to just go through it all again, like where to inject, where to prick fingers, when to test, what o do if I'm low/high.
Maybe even write some things down or take a dictaphone!? Sounds crazy but if you know someone who has one why not! As soon as I walk out of such rooms my mind goes blank (blanker than usual that is!)

Good luck & chillax
 
thanks very much for that rossi didnt even think of getting a number off them x
 
mine gave me a number early on, they have an answer machine, and I leave a message if I phone in the morning as then they have appointments, then in the pm they phone up and sort me out!
 
well we will see how good mine are the streess and hasle i had even just getting an appointment , my opinion so far aint that high of anyone in my so called health team
 
katie said:
lol I think we could have been. I'm very well behaved, so the evil twin must be you!! 😛
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Hey!!! I'm not the Evil Twin , you have the dark hair you are Evil , Im blonde

and Innocent lol 😱😱😱 defo separated though lol..
 
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