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I feel a return of the Banting and Best Virtual Pub in their honour?

Andy 🙂
 
Northerner said:
Banting and Best isolated what would become known as 'insulin' :D
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What about poor old Paulescu though ...

"Nicolae Paulescu, a Romanian professor of physiology at the University of Medicine and Pharmacy in Bucharest, was the first to isolate insulin, in 1916, which he called at that time, pancrein, and in 1921 published four papers explaining the work he had carried out in Bucharest and his tests on an diabetic dog. Only 8 months later, the discoveries he published were copied (or, as some say, confirmed) by doctor Frederick Grant Banting and biochemist John James Rickard Macleod, who were later awarded the Nobel prize for the discovery of insulin in 1923, which Paulescu discovered as early as 1916. It is often said that the cause for not being recognised as the true inventor of insulin is because he expressed antisemitic and anti-masonic views. He was also the first individual to use insulin to reduce blood sugar in a mammal, carrying out a series of treatments on diabetics animals and recording its efficacy when injected.[36] Use of his techniques was patented in Romania and he was the first to secure the patent rights for his method of manufacturing pancreine (his own term for insulin) on April 10, 1922 (patent no. 6254) from the Romanian Ministry of Industry and Trade."
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hyper-Suze said:
Oooh, sounds v.interesting....whats that???
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It was the previous location in the Off Subject area where general chat and bawdy behaviour (within reason) can take place.

The tropical island took over for a bit when there was a hankering for something different. With 'El Presidente' still awol, it might be time to relocate back to the tried and tested Banting and Best.

I might even be back to 'clean the tables' and generally 'throw a mop and bucket around'.

Andy 🙂
 
Andy HB said:
It was the previous location in the Off Subject area where general chat and bawdy behaviour (within reason) can take place.

The tropical island took over for a bit when there was a hankering for something different. With 'El Presidente' still awol, it might be time to relocate back to the tried and tested Banting and Best.

I might even be back to 'clean the tables' and generally 'throw a mop and bucket around'.

Andy 🙂
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bring back the pub !! but we need a really nice beer garden to enjoy the summer !!
ps el presidente sold his shares in the island before the phone hacking scandel broke aparently 🙄😉
 
Massive respect and honor for them ... Because of there discovery and findings, Nathan can live a long, healthy and active life, and can achieve all his hopes. As Nathans mam, I owe everything to them, and just wish I could thank them.

Heidi
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Am kicking meself now, never been on the tropical island so to speak - for whatever reason - and I have real ones! - I have always assumed you were all 'into' 'Second Life' - which I ain't ! ROFL

See how much time I spend reading instructions on the forum front page, can't you?

Now I know I may poke my head round the door of the pub cos I could fit right in, there!
 
Northerner said:
Banting and Best isolated what would become known as 'insulin' :D
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Just come across this reference to Jean de Meyer who named the hormone responsible for glucose regulation as "Insulin" in 1909.

"Diabetes has been recognised since antiquity. The first description that resembles the features of the disease is found in Ebers papyrus (1550 BC). The term ";diabetes"; was first coined by Aretaeus of Cappadocia. Galen described it as a disease specific to the kidneys because of a weakness in their retentive faculties. Word mellitus was added by Thomas Willis in 1675 after rediscovering the sweetness of urine and blood of patients (first noticed by the ancient Indians, Chinese and Japanese). He later noticed that some urine samples were sweet (diabetes mellitus) whereas others were tasteless (diabetes insipidus). Later Cullen and John Rollo confirmed these two types. It was only in 1776 that Dobson firstly confirmed the presence of excess sugar in urine and blood as a cause of their sweetness. Claude Bernard discovered in 1857 that liver releases a substance i.e. glycogen which affects blood sugar level. The role of the pancreas in pathogenesis of diabetes was discovered by Mering and Minkowski in 1889. In 1909, Jean De Meyer named glucose lowering hormone as insulin whose existence was hypothetical at that time. Banting and Macleod got Noble prize for isolating insulin in 1923. Discovery of insulin for the treatment of diabetes represents one of the major humanitarian and scientific milestones of the 20th century. Oral hypoglycemic drugs were introduced later. Today researchers are working on insulin patch, implantable pump, insulin-sensitizers, pancreatic or islet cell transplantation and oral insulin"
 
caffeine_demon said:
BURRRRP!!!

(better out than in)
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Oooh, can I get a job there as the busty barmaid...ha ha ha!😛

Will the pub be showing Skyy Sports, we can show the F1 races:D (see post in Off the Subject!!!)
 
hyper-Suze said:
Oooh, can I get a job there as the busty barmaid...ha ha ha!😛

Will the pub be showing Skyy Sports, we can show the F1 races:D (see post in Off the Subject!!!)
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Being the media mogul that he thinks he is, El Presidente's own digital broadcasting channel has an exclusive selection of F1 Pig racing available ... Roman style.

Meanwhile, back to the topic. It isn't who finds something first which counts. It's whether they tell anyone (worthwhile) about it!

Andy 🙂
 
Thanks to mcdonagh for the additional information about insulin and the pioneers involved in its discovery and isolation. I would urge anyone interested in the story to read Michael Bliss' definitive The Discovery of Insulin. It's a fascinating story and really brings it home to you how things were prior to, and in the early days of the discovery.
 
Andy HB said:
Meanwhile, back to the topic. It isn't who finds something first which counts. It's whether they tell anyone (worthwhile) about it!
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It is quite common for something to be named by someone other than its discoverer or inventor; this is called Stigler's Law. Well-known (though probably not well-known to be, except the first) examples include:

  • Cardano's Rule, discovered by Tartaglia.
  • Pythagoras' Theorem, known to the Egyptians long before the classical Greek age.
  • The Baird televisor, invented by the German Paul Gottleib Nipkow some 40 years before Baird's time. (Coded discs used to detect rotation are called Nipkow Discs.)
 
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robert@fm said:
It is quite common for something to be named by someone other than its discoverer or inventor; this is called ]
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America - named after Amerigo Vespucci not Columbus.
 
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