a lesson learned

[bev]

Hi all,

Just thought i would share with you what we learnt yesterday! Alex had a salad for evening meal which consisted of : boiled egg, cocktail sausage, pepperoni, ham,beetroot, lettuce, peppers, lettuce, scotch egg. He only had very small amounts of the scotch egg and the sausage, so i didnt count them as any carbs, - as he had just been on the tramolene for 1 hour. He then had a chocolate yoghurt - so we just calculated for the yoghurt. After eating we checked his levels 1 hour later - and he was 22!!!!!!

So, we have realised that we probably should have given him his NR AFTER the meal rather than before! When i think about it now it makes sense as he was eating his salad for 20 minutes - so the NR didnt have much to work on - then the pudding hit later - hence the rise! You probably all know this already - diabetes certainly keeps you on your toes doesnt it?🙂Bev

 

[sasha1]

Hi bev,

Is alex feeling much better hun?

Certainly does keep you on your toes, I've encountered the same with Nathan.
If were are going out for a meal, usually give nathan's after eating....He has a passion for sticky toffee pudding😱, although i try to advise him against it, and it isnt that often we go out for meals.
Also, a few times I have given Nathan his N/R 20 mins before eating, if his bloog sugar high.
Hope you well.
Heidi
🙂

 

[Northerner]

Hi bev,

I've often wondered my self about the fact that I take my NR before I eat, but then it may take me ages before I actually finish the meal - should I dose before, during, after, split the dose? Last night was a good case in point. I was feeling especially hungry so thought I would really fill myself up. I had sausage, mash, peas, carrots and onion gravy, followed by apple pie and custard - yum! The problem was that I forgot to put the apple pie in the oven, so ended up waiting 20 minutes between courses, so the peaks of my NR and pudding would not have coincided. However, I measured at 2 hours and was 8.0 and then 9.7 before bed, so I was reasonably pleased with that as it meant I didn't need a bedtime snack (which I probably couldn't have eaten!).

22 is quite a spike to have though only an hour after finishing eating. Have you managed to get a cgms yet? It would be interesting to see the profile of his reaction to the meal. Like you, too, I would have expected all that bouncing about to have lowered him. I can imagine that my readings would have been radically different after eating the same meal - just shows how different people are, and adults and children in particular. I would have thrown back the boiled egg, beetroot and scotch egg though - eeeewwww!!😱

 

[bev]

Hi Heidi,
Yes thank you Alex is much better - still has awful cough etc- but no ketones!
I have also given NR a bit earlier than actually eating as it does seem to do the 'correction' a lot quicker/better than doing it on time doesnt it?
Yesterday it was so hot here we all got sunburnt - and it seemed also to bring Alex's levels down nicely within range (apart from the salad blip!) - so we are also learning just how much the weather plays a part in increasing/decreasing levels! We used to eat out a lot before diagnosis, but we find now that it can be very hit and miss -'guessing' the carbs in a meal, also the timing in some restaurants is hard to decide when to inject! But i think we will make more effort to do this as i am always saying to Alex that diabetes wont change his life - so getting back to some 'normality' will be good all round i think! How is nathan? How are you? Enjoying the nice weather? 🙂Bev

 

[bev]

Hi Northerner!
Hope your ok? It seems as though you did everything right with your meal last night - even after the 20 minute wait! I spoke to the team last week about the CGMS and it seems that they have miraculously found one! It appears they had lost the 'docking' part of it! So they have been in touch with the makers to have it all checked over and hopefully we will get the chance to use it soon!
I suspect that Alex had a big drop after the NR was given - but then the pudding would have been eaten just in time to stop a hypo - but then obviously had 'missed' the NR. I am only guessing this and if anyone has another explanation i would be more than happy to hear it. But, yes northerner i think having him on a cgms would be a wonderful opportunity to 'see' what going on behind the scenes!
p.s Sausage and mash on a hot day?
p.p.s. Hubby told me the other day that he had been to see KB many moons ago and whilst on stage she lifted her hair behind her ears and there was a huge gasp from the audience!(he said this without knowing of the conversations on here). Bev

 

[Northerner]

...p.s Sausage and mash on a hot day?
p.p.s. Hubby told me the other day that he had been to see KB many moons ago and whilst on stage she lifted her hair behind her ears and there was a huge gasp from the audience!(he said this without knowing of the conversations on here). Bev

I was ravenous, and it's one of my favourite meals! As for KB, you don't get me that easily - your hubby is far too young to have seen her live!

 

[bev]

What makes you think that? He is 52 and i am ...well a lady never tells her age - but i am a lot younger than him! Honestly he did see KB and that really is what happened! Bev

 

[sasha1]

Hi Heidi,
Yes thank you Alex is much better - still has awful cough etc- but no ketones!
I have also given NR a bit earlier than actually eating as it does seem to do the 'correction' a lot quicker/better than doing it on time doesnt it?
Yesterday it was so hot here we all got sunburnt - and it seemed also to bring Alex's levels down nicely within range (apart from the salad blip!) - so we are also learning just how much the weather plays a part in increasing/decreasing levels! We used to eat out a lot before diagnosis, but we find now that it can be very hit and miss -'guessing' the carbs in a meal, also the timing in some restaurants is hard to decide when to inject! But i think we will make more effort to do this as i am always saying to Alex that diabetes wont change his life - so getting back to some 'normality' will be good all round i think! How is nathan? How are you? Enjoying the nice weather? 🙂Bev

Hi bev.

Really pleased Alex is feeling much better. Me and Nath are ok thank you.
Weather gorgeous up here to, just hope it lasts.
It can be really difficult regarding eating out..In some aspects of diabetes its all trial and error..Usually with Nath I would wait for the food to be in front of him, judge size etc, possibly add a couple of extra units, then test his blood level about 2 1/2 - 3 hrs after. to see what is reads.. if it is then still high would give a couple of units N/R to take the edge of it..which ususally works and brings his lavels back in to range.
Hun, Normal is only a cycle on a washing machine..lol
Your doing a cracking job with Alex and his diabetes, like you in the mind set that diabetes will not change Nathan's life and keep instilling that into him.
Heidi
🙂

 

[sasha1]

I was ravenous, and it's one of my favourite meals! As for KB, you don't get me that easily - your hubby is far too young to have seen her live!

Hi Northerner,

How are you doing hun, hope you ok
Must have been something in the weather yesterday... Nath wanted sausage and mash for tea to,
Heidi
🙂