Breakfast Cereal test ?

[mcdonagh47]

yes Donna.... I thought it would be ok too..... my DSN said to test 2 hours after food.......... but the spike comes ONE hour after eating!!! thanks to AlanS suggestion ... I have been testing 1 hour after food and discovering that many things I thought were ok after 2 hours are not ok after 1 hour!!!

It is taken for granted that food will raise your bgs up to an hour or so ( that's why you eat- to get glucose for energy!).
The standard recommendation is to test at two hours to check whether your bg is back in range after that food/portion of carbs. As a type 2 your FIRST PHASE response ( rapid acting insulin ) is shot to pieces, nobody is expecting you not to spike but hopefully you can keep spikes low with a Low GI/GL approach.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

It is taken for granted that food will raise your bgs up to an hour or so ( that's why you eat!).
The standard recommendation is to test at two hours to check whether your bg is back in range after that food/portion of carbs.

I agree that it is recognised that there will be a bg rise after meals, but for my money I'd much rather know which foods were sending my bG sky high at 1 hour (porridge for me last week, without fruit, took me to 13.x and 15.x on different days).

If I can choose a different breakfast and keep my post-meal rise below 10 I'd be much happier with that 🙂 (though it seems I'd need my liver to be in a cooperative frame of mind too)

 

[HelenM]

Well I did the test by chance last week as I was skiing and needed to test before starting my lesson which was about an hour after eating.

Breakfast 40g oats made up to 250g of porridge with semi skimmed milk + a small handful of mixed berries. I dose insulin for 38g carb.

day 1 before 4.5mmol/l 1 hour 3.3mmol

( carrying skis etc and mad panic to get to lesson on time sent me low, On top of this I forgot that my small meter read in mg/dl so misread 59mg/dl as 5.9mmol/l. Fortunately I felt hypo so took some glucose just in case!)

Following days were more representative.... skis and boots now safely in locker on mountain so no need to carry🙂
day 2 before: 79 (4.3mmol) 1 hour 115 (6.4mmol/l)
day 3 before 92 (5.1mmol) 1 hour 129 7.1mmol/l)
day 4 before 90 (5.0mmol/l) 1 hour 101 (5.6 mmol/l)
day 5 before 83 (4.4mmol/l 1 hour 92 (5.1mmol/l)
day 6 before 85 (4.5mmol/l) 1 hour 102 (5.6 mmol/l)

On each day I took a dextrose, skied with a reduced basal and ended up 2 hours later in the 4s on each day.
I suppose that's not an everyday test but I eat the same most mornings and when I test at 2 hours the only times I find it too high is if I've done no exercise for a couple of days .

 

[caffeine_demon]

as a little experiment today I had banana custard for brekkie - I'll let you know what the readings are (I had breakfast late today - lazy me!!)

 

[caffeine_demon]

interesting...

morning test level 8.1
1 hour after the banana custard - 10.7
2 hours aftrer - 8.4

yet when I had banana custard as a pudding a few days ago, it was fine!!

 

[wallycorker]

.........It took me a while to accept that breakfast cereal, with or without milk, consistently raised my post-breakfast numbers well over 10. That was much too scary for me to keep doing it.

My brain now sees cereal at breakfast time as a form of poison, so I won't participate in your experiment. But I will be interested in the results............

Just the same for me Alan!

Breakfast cereals of any kind - including porridge - are something I'm not interested in ever eating again.

Bacon and egg - sometimes with tomatoes or mushrooms - for me these days.

I'll be interested to participate in an experiment when people want to test that type of meal out.

 

[macast]

Wallycorker see http://www.diabetessupport.co.uk/boards/showthread.php?t=14860 for alternative breakfasts

Mcd and Everyday...... I really want to know what is sending my BG levels up.... whether it be 1 hour after... 2 hours... or 4 hours. I hate testing.... but I HAVE to know

if I know ... then I can make informed choices about what I eat

 

[FM001]

Well I did the test by chance last week as I was skiing and needed to test before starting my lesson which was about an hour after eating.

Breakfast 40g oats made up to 250g of porridge with semi skimmed milk + a small handful of mixed berries. I dose insulin for 38g carb.

day 1 before 4.5mmol/l 1 hour 3.3mmol

( carrying skis etc and mad panic to get to lesson on time sent me low, On top of this I forgot that my small meter read in mg/dl so misread 59mg/dl as 5.9mmol/l. Fortunately I felt hypo so took some glucose just in case!)

Following days were more representative.... skis and boots now safely in locker on mountain so no need to carry🙂
day 2 before: 79 (4.3mmol) 1 hour 115 (6.4mmol/l)
day 3 before 92 (5.1mmol) 1 hour 129 7.1mmol/l)
day 4 before 90 (5.0mmol/l) 1 hour 101 (5.6 mmol/l)
day 5 before 83 (4.4mmol/l 1 hour 92 (5.1mmol/l)
day 6 before 85 (4.5mmol/l) 1 hour 102 (5.6 mmol/l)

On each day I took a dextrose, skied with a reduced basal and ended up 2 hours later in the 4s on each day.
I suppose that's not an everyday test but I eat the same most mornings and when I test at 2 hours the only times I find it too high is if I've done no exercise for a couple of days .

Those are terrific 1 hour readings Helen. I ate the same breakfast this morning and pre-brekkie I was 5.4 which went up 7.3 one hour after and dropped to 5.9 two hours after, pre-lunch reading was 5.7 which was five hours after breakfast. Tried instant porridge before but find my blood glucose hits 10+ one hour after eating, original oats spike far less so this is my choice every time.

 

[wallycorker]

.......... I really want to know what is sending my BG levels up.... whether it be 1 hour after... 2 hours... or 4 hours. I hate testing.... but I HAVE to know

if I know ... then I can make informed choices about what I eat ...........

Hi macast,

Basically, it's fairly simple! The answer is sugar and carbohydrate. Why carbohydrate? Because carbohydrate turns into sugar almost immediately it enters your body.

Cut down on those and your blood glucose levels will drop - as will your triglyceride level too.

Readings of 13 and 15 one hour after eating are too high for your long-term well-being.

Best wishes - John

 

[cazscot]

I did a breakfast test a few months back...

http://www.diabetessupport.co.uk/boards/showthread.php?t=10851

 

[macast]

I did a breakfast test a few months back...

http://www.diabetessupport.co.uk/boards/showthread.php?t=10851

thanks for that Caz..... very interesting 🙂

 

[Alan S]

I hate testing....

Why?

Is it the pain, the blood or the inconvenience?

If it's the pain, see if this helps: Painless Pricks

I notice you're a senior here, so please forgive me if I'm teaching anyone to suck eggs. But maybe a lurker will benefit.

 

[AlisonM]

07:30 - 8.6 at waking
Breakfast 20 grms oatmeal, 60mls milk and a cup of tea.
08:30 - 9.1
09:30 - 8.5

This is the first morning in months I've woken in single figures so I'm ahead already.

 

[SweetGuy]

I thought I would try some muesli today. 7.7 before.

 

[macast]

Why?

Is it the pain, the blood or the inconvenience?

If it's the pain, see if this helps: Painless Pricks

I notice you're a senior here, so please forgive me if I'm teaching anyone to suck eggs. But maybe a lurker will benefit.

hi Alan.... thanks.... it is the pain as I have pain already in my fingers and toes. I find that the middle finger is less painful and the blood flows better from that one... but that only allows 4 tests.

as to being a senior ... it is only coz I chat a lot.... I only joined a month ago lol

 

[mcdonagh47]

I notice you're a senior here, so please forgive me if I'm teaching anyone to suck eggs. But maybe a lurker will benefit.

You get the rank of "Senior" on here if you make 100 posts... I think its 100.
Macast is just over a month into diabetes...I think.

 

[macast]

You get the rank of "Senior" on here if you make 100 posts... I think its 100.
Macast is just over a month into diabetes...I think.

yep Mcd..... diagnosed on 5th of January so any advice is always welcome from you old-timers 😉

 

[SweetGuy]

I thought I would try some muesli today. 7.7 before.

12.7 1.5 hours later.

 

[donnarob]

Hi Everyone,

After the porridge spikes the last couple of days, decided to go for bacon, egg and mushrooms.

Is it just me, but I feel like I'm a glutton eating stuff like this for breakfast?

Anyway.... fasting was 7.1
1 hour later still no food 8
2 hours after breakfast 6.9
before lunch 3 hrs later 5.3

Donna

 

[SweetGuy]

Hi Everyone,

After the porridge spikes the last couple of days, decided to go for bacon, egg and mushrooms.

Is it just me, but I feel like I'm a glutton eating stuff like this for breakfast?

Anyway.... fasting was 7.1
1 hour later still no food 8
2 hours after breakfast 6.9
before lunch 3 hrs later 5.3

Donna

Yours actually goes down when you eat Donna. Nice LOL. 🙂