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Berberine

DarronH

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Could I ask for a little help about Berberine root and using it to help with type2!

I tried ringing my GP and was just roadblocked by the receptionst. I just want to know if taking this will help with reducing blood suger and lowing cholesterol?
I am also taking a small amount of cinnamon in my first coffee each morning.

Has anyone tried it, any feedback would be great.

Many thanks
Darron
 
You're better to go for lifestyle changes than supplements, even though there may be a few studies into their effects.
Lifestyle changes can be more effective than most of the approved anti-diabetic medications. But it depends on your circumstances, really.
 
But, @DarronH, there is some very recent guidance from the NHS on berberine. See:

The Best Time to Take Berberine for Blood Sugar: A Comprehensive Guide · Customer Self-Service

I haven't read this but I would anticipate that your GP would be unlikely to know anything more and I wouldn't really expect any GP to have this document at their fingertips. While I know that having GP reception staff "roadblocking" is really frustrating, it does seem that universally GP Surgeries are overloaded and thus getting immediate answers to such a specialised question is inevitably going to be difficult.

In your previous post about ketones, which I only speed read, I couldn't glean what your HbA1c was at diagnosis, nor what it now is after the various measures you have already taken with diet changes and other responses you talked about in Jun '24. Also a couple of responders then, hinted at the possibility of your diagnosis being incorrect and perhaps you might actually be T1. Was that ever followed up?

Right now, we have some insight into your diabetes, but not really enough to sensibly offer better thoughts. We are not medically qualified (or those that might be are not offering medical advice specifically to you). But there is a wealth of knowledge here in the forum which could be more useful to you in the wider scheme of BG management - even if we are not particularly helpful about berberine.
 
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My husband has been taking it for over 4 years now, he has also had better blood pressure readings it used to be in the 140 over 80 now he has a steady 120 over 60 he started taking it as part of his Cancer arsenal but also has T2 but no longer needs meds
 
Are you taking any other medications @DarronH ?

It might be worth asking the qualified pharmacist at your high st chemists (not just the counter staff). A pharmacist would probably know any potentially worrying reactions between herbal / natural supplements and prescription meds better than a GP?

Because just because something is naturally derived, doesn’t mean it can’t interact negatively with medicines (eg you are supposed to avoid grapefruit with some meds).

It’s a topic which comes up from time to time. I’ve not looked into Berberine recently, but last time I did the published evidence didn’t look very strong, so I wouldn’t expect much effect. I think if it was more promising Pharma would have isolated and concentrated the active ingredient and made a med with it (like they did with aspirin)
 
@Proud to be erratic that webpage you linked to is not a valid one for the NHS. The page looks like a sneaky inset into the NHSBA website outside of the primary site structure. The page is littered with hidden and visible links to ghnews.org and when clicked take you to a site pushing glycogen capsules to manage blood glucose.
 
Thats not the nhsbsa website - wrong format
 
I’ve taken the liberty of removing that link @Proud to be erratic - as it looks as if it may not be quite right and the site may have been hacked?
 
Ah OK! I’ve worked it out. That bit of the NHSBA website is some sort of support forum which has been mercilessly spammed.
 
Thank you @JimmyBlue and @Tdm, glad I didn't get bogged down in reading the detail.
I’ve taken the liberty of removing that link @Proud to be erratic - as it looks as if it may not be quite right and the site may have been hacked?
Thanks. I just did a simple Google search, I was curious to know what the NHS had to say on the topic of Berberine. Hence forwarding the link I found. Just goes to show one must never be off guard!

I was in London on Monday, travelling on my Senior's Rail Card and got home without it! I hindsight something weird did occur while inside a crowded Bakerloo tube carriage, but at the time I gave the matter little thought. My guard was down. Just hope there isn't a 3rd event in the offing.
 
@Proud to be erratic if your Senior's Rail Card is the one for the mainline trains, I have that on my mobile phone just to make sure I don't lose it. I also keep a very tight hold of my phone when in London as it is one the main places where phone theft takes place.
 
Thanks, @JimmyBlue. That wasn't a realistic possibility until recently. I upgraded my phone at Xmas; it's predecessor was damaged, misbehaving becausevof physical damage and I was spending a lot of time "nursing" it. Your suggestion is now viable. I do have some reservations about keeping too many eggs in one basket; I don't have a PC and nowadays it's virtually impossible to exist without Internet access for banking, utilities, local council services, etc. My railcard was in its own wallet/folder along with an oyster card with a face value of <£2 (deliberately) and the total loss is more aggravating than financially serious.

The real lesson is that it was my own lack of care, in so many ways. I showed the railcard as I bought a ticket, rushed over a footbridge to get onto an imminent train and stuffed the card into a jacket pocket. I could have, but didn't, transferred the card and it's holder into a much better pocket elsewhere, at any time during the next 5 hours! Mea Culpa. I've been meaning to replace the waterproof jacket for the last 5 years, because I've never liked that it has just 2 outside zippable pockets - too small to get gloves, hat and certainly not a scarf into them. Essentially the jacket has never really met my needs and on Monday I allowed myself to be complacent and just didn't show due care and attention to my circumstances. I even didn't "wake up" when there was a brief, silly, distraction right beside me after which the perpetrators immediately got off. As it happens, even if I had realised then that I had become a victim, it would still have been too late to do anything. That all happened so quickly.

I must gracefully accept that I carry a lot of the blame for my own lack of caution - crime is potentially all around us. This doesn't make criminality excusable; but my loss could have been avoided by better care from me. To add to the irritation, railcard authorities impose a £10 admin fee for a replacement, which could be waivered if I go to a Police Station, report the crime and get a crime reference number. I know that the admin cost to the Police Service is more than £10 just for that bureaucracy, regardless of whether a report in my home town in Berks for a minor event on London Underground would lead to any sort of resolution. The old railcard has been cancelled, I've paid £10 and a replacement will arrivevin the next 10 days, I'm told. Network Rail don't log railcard details when they sell tickets with railcard discounts; mine had 11 months of 3yrs life left on it - so there is potentially 11 months of fraud available to the thief.

Lesson relearnt!
 
@Proud to be erratic Sorry to hear about that, I am quite good with tech as I worked in the industry for many years on both technical and commercial sides of the business, so quite comfortable with working online. I do always have concerns about where I keep my mobile phone and always try to make sure it is in an inside pocket when in busy areas.

Railcard fraud must be interesting especially when the pimple faced teenager shows the Senior Railcard which carrys our haggard and lived in faces. Would be interested in how they try to get around that. Had a face lift maybe :D
 
@DarronH from the few studies that I looked at last night, the suggested approach appears to be 3 times a day with meals.
 
Thanks everyone for the comments, advise and feedback! Sorry I am a bit late answering just travelling across parts of east europe.
 
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