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How much fat and protien is considered high inna meal?

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gillrogers

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Is there a rough starting point? Had a horroble time with some sausages ladt night. Didnt drop but just kept going slowly high for 3 hours. Had 42g carbs and 50 g fat and 25g protien.
 
gillrogers said:
Is there a rough starting point? Had a horroble time with some sausages ladt night. Didnt drop but just kept going slowly high for 3 hours. Had 42g carbs and 50 g fat and 25g protien.
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Hello, how high did it take you? What was your starting point? Did your BGs drop off after 3 hours?
 
Or it could just be stress. You seemed pretty upset after your phone call with the DSN about pumps yesterday. Pretty sure my levels went up last night due to stress after watching the news for the first time in ages, despite doing loads of exercise yesterday. Try the same meal a few times and see what happens before drawing any conclusions.
 
If they are good quality high meat content sausages then they are usually only about 1-2g carb per sausage.
I have rejected many as they are a lot more than that so worth looking carefully at the pack. If you grill them then much of the fat will come out.
 
rebrascora said:
Or it could just be stress. You seemed pretty upset after your phone call with the DSN about pumps yesterday. Pretty sure my levels went up last night due to stress after watching the news for the first time in ages, despite doing loads of exercise yesterday. Try the same meal a few times and see what happens before drawing any conclusions.
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Oh yes thats true ! I did get rather stressed.
 
Leadinglights said:
If they are good quality high meat content sausages then they are usually only about 1-2g carb per sausage.
I have rejected many as they are a lot more than that so worth looking carefully at the pack. If you grill them then much of the fat will come out.
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They was tesco finest pork and caramelized sausages. The pirt and apple ones dont have nowhere near as much fat in them and i seem to do those ok.
 
That seems a lot of carbs - did you have something else with the sausages which was high carb?
I see you are a type 1.5, so don't have the same constraints as I do - but that is more carbs than I have in a whole day and the sausages from the coop and iceland are much much lower in carbs
 
Drummer said:
That seems a lot of carbs - did you have something else with the sausages which was high carb?
I see you are a type 1.5, so don't have the same constraints as I do - but that is more carbs than I have in a whole day and the sausages from the coop and iceland are much much lower in carbs
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Hi Drummer, i need carbs to put weight on and LADA is basically same end result as type 1 just a different cause. Low carb is not good for me and puts my risk of dka up.
 
Drummer said:
That seems a lot of carbs - did you have something else with the sausages which was high carb?
I see you are a type 1.5, so don't have the same constraints as I do - but that is more carbs than I have in a whole day and the sausages from the coop and iceland are much much lower in carbs
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A healthy diet for someone with Type 1 (which is what LADA is) is the same as someone without diabetes.
We have no need to restrict carbs.

Some people with Type 1 choose to reduce the carbs they eat in order to lower their insulin dose and reduce the risk of errors. However, this brings its own set of complexities.

The common course for people with Type 1, DAFNE (Dosing For Normal Eating) is a big hint for this. It works for many of us. For example, I do not limit my carbs (42g would be lower carb meal for me) and I have a HbA1C below that of someone with pre diabetes and, after 20 years, no complications.

Please take care when suggesting diet to someone with Type 1 as it often brings challenges with relationships with food.
 
helli said:
A healthy diet for someone with Type 1 (which is what LADA is) is the same as someone without diabetes.
We have no need to restrict carbs.

Some people with Type 1 choose to reduce the carbs they eat in order to lower their insulin dose and reduce the risk of errors. However, this brings its own set of complexities.

The common course for people with Type 1, DAFNE (Dosing For Normal Eating) is a big hint for this. It works for many of us. For example, I do not limit my carbs (42g would be lower carb meal for me) and I have a HbA1C below that of someone with pre diabetes and, after 20 years, no complications.

Please take care when suggesting diet to someone with Type 1 as it often brings challenges with relationships with food.
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I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there.

I wrote that 42 gm of carbs seems a lot of carbs - for sausages surely - Leadinglights makes a similar comment.
I was eating a low carb diet 60 years ago - like most of my family, it is our healthy diet, but as I wrote - a type 1.5 doesn't have the same constraints.
 
Drummer said:
I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there.

I wrote that 42 gm of carbs seems a lot of carbs - for sausages surely - Leadinglights makes a similar comment.
I was eating a low carb diet 60 years ago - like most of my family, it is our healthy diet, but as I wrote - a type 1.5 doesn't have the same constraints.
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Oh sorry no was not the sausages was thr whole meal. Most of the carbs came from the mash potato.
 
gillrogers said:
Oh sorry no was not the sausages was thr whole meal. Most of the carbs came from the mash potato.
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You hadn't mentioned mashed potatoes and somebody then said 'it must have been the sausages' so we mistook that it was the sausages that were so many carbs.
 
Leadinglights said:
You hadn't mentioned mashed potatoes and somebody then said 'it must have been the sausages' so we mistook that it was the sausages that were so many carbs.
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I'm also pretty sure that of the many ways you can eat potatoes, mashed is the worst choice.

@gillrogers next time maybe give mashed cauliflower a try? It has fewer than a 10th of the carbs of potato. I've found it to be a perfectly acceptable substitute.
 
Martin.A said:
I'm also pretty sure that of the many ways you can eat potatoes, mashed is the worst choice.
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Please please please remember that the OP has Type 1 diabetes.
We inject insulin so we can eat carbs both fast and slow acting carbs and do not need to eat low carb meals.
There should be no concept of "worst" carbs for us. Some people may find high carb high fat meals (such as pizza) as more challenging to dose insulin for but there is no need for someone with Type 1 to try mashed cauliflower ... unless they want to.
Mashed potato should not be a problem and nor should a meal with 42g of carbs.
 
helli said:
Please please please remember that the OP has Type 1 diabetes.
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Fair point, but the thread began by saying that BG didn't drop but just kept going slowly high for 3 hours and I think that's why people jumped on the carbs as a possible explanation.
 
The other thing to be aware of is that Gill needs to put on weight not lose or maintain it, so those carbs are important for her as is the fat and protein. This is purely an insulin dosing issue and is all about finding the balance with insulin and food for that meal and it will come down to having it more often and practicing to see what works for you Gill as an individual..... so lots more sausages and mash for you.... but hopefully less stress!
 
Leadinglights said:
You hadn't mentioned mashed potatoes and somebody then said 'it must have been the sausages' so we mistook that it was the sausages that were so many carbs.
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Sorry thats me in my stressy zone.
 
rebrascora said:
The other thing to be aware of is that Gill needs to put on weight not lose or maintain it, so those carbs are important for her as is the fat and protein. This is purely an insulin dosing issue and is all about finding the balance with insulin and food for that meal and it will come down to having it more often and practicing to see what works for you Gill as an individual..... so lots more sausages and mash for you.... but hopefully less stress!
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Love sausage and mash! Comfort food! Didnr have sausages as didnt have any last night but had a tesco finest sweet one burger. Same thing happened. But ive think ive worked out why. By bolus tend to be on the higher side of 9.5g:1 and 10:1g. Choose 10:1 without thinking.
 
gillrogers said:
Oh sorry no was not the sausages was thr whole meal. Most of the carbs came from the mash potato.
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I was thinking - how on earth....
If you did want - for any reason, to lower the carbs you might try mashed cauliflower, or swede. I cook the swede in a pressure cooker, put it though a ricer and mash it with cream, or I beat eggs in, shape it into cakes and fry it in with the bacon or sausages I sometimes add a bit of dried sage or thyme. I find mashed potatoes a bit boring these days.
 
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