All you can eat breakfast

[DancingStar]

I'm meeting up with friends for an "All you can eat breakfast" at a Toby Inn.

In anticipation I've checked the carb count and I found this:



This seems an awful amount of carbs - far more than any I would eat in a day. It doesn't give me any breakdown of what the carbs are coming from. I was going to have some bacon, sausage, egg, tomatoes, mushrooms if they're available. I'm feeling a bit worried about how much insulin I'm going to need - surely none of what I'm anticipating eating will amount to 180 plus grams of carbs?

 

[Carlos]

Sausages, depending on quality, may contain some carbs, the same with black pudding, that may push up the typical carb content value. In reality I think only toast, hash browns and baked beans would count for your insulin calculation.

 

[Robin]

I'm meeting up with friends for an "All you can eat breakfast" at a Toby Inn.

In anticipation I've checked the carb count and I found this:
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This seems an awful amount of carbs - far more than any I would eat in a day. It doesn't give me any breakdown of what the carbs are coming from. I was going to have some bacon, sausage, egg, tomatoes, mushrooms if they're available. I'm feeling a bit worried about how much insulin I'm going to need - surely none of what I'm anticipating eating will amount to 180 plus grams of carbs?

I think the carb count is based on what you could have if you chose to have some of everything on offer. Which I would never ever do, I couldn’t eat 2,345 calories at one sitting, it would be more than my entire days worth. So if you’re selective, and take only what you would actually like to eat, you should be fine.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

Looks good.
I'd eat too much!

Home of the Roast and King of the Breakfast! Served until 11am. Please pay at the bar, then help yourself to our delicious range of breakfast items from the deck including:

All You Can Eat Breakfast​

Bacon
Baked Beans (v)
Breakfast Yorkshire Puddings - With roasted onion and bacon bits.
Pork Sausages*
Toast (v) - With a selection of jams and spreads.
Free-Range Fried Eggs (v)
Handmade Potato, Bacon, Cheese & Onion Hash
Plum Tomatoes (v)
Freshly Roasted Mushrooms (v)
Hash Browns (v)
Freshly Cooked to Order - Please let our team know when you order at the bar.
Free Range Scrambled Eggs (v)
Quorn™ Sausages (v)

https://www.tobycarvery.co.uk/content/dam/toby-carvery/pdf/ln22/breakfastmenu.pdf

 

[42istheanswer]

I'm meeting up with friends for an "All you can eat breakfast" at a Toby Inn.

In anticipation I've checked the carb count and I found this:
View attachment 24769


This seems an awful amount of carbs - far more than any I would eat in a day. It doesn't give me any breakdown of what the carbs are coming from. I was going to have some bacon, sausage, egg, tomatoes, mushrooms if they're available. I'm feeling a bit worried about how much insulin I'm going to need - surely none of what I'm anticipating eating will amount to 180 plus grams of carbs?

Yeah I'm guessing that's "some of everything" probably including cereal, at least 2 slices of toast with jam on, hash browns etc.

Your choices sound like they will be much lower carb than that, so I would just estimate from usual carb levels of those foods if you can't find individual nutrition information for their sausages etc online

 

[Inka]

Ignore that and just count your carbs normally as if you hadn’t seen that. I’ve seen some pretty inaccurate restaurant counts so I prefer to judge myself.

 

[DancingStar]

Ignore that and just count your carbs normally as if you hadn’t seen that. I’ve seen some pretty inaccurate restaurant counts so I prefer to judge myself.

I'm a bit of a newbie at carb counting. Hopefully it get's easier with experience.

 

[nonethewiser]

Good thing with buffet breakfast is you can pick & choose, prefer Prem Inn breakfast over Tobys as you also get black pudding, once over you did at Tobys also.

Usually have bit of everything leaving some bacon over for sandwich at end, both establishments depending on how much you eat offers good value for money.

 

[Drummer]

I'm a bit of a newbie at carb counting. Hopefully it get's easier with experience.

Honestly - once you 'get your eye in' for the obvious high carb foods, and the usual suspects such as catering quality sausage, it is not at all difficult to make a good guess - unless the sausages are heavy on the carbs you might even add in a tomato or two once you see how closely your meals match your best guessing.

 

[Inka]

@Drummer Most (all?) people on insulin don’t carb count fresh tomatoes.

@DancingStar If you look at the kind of thing they’ll have online eg on a supermarket website, you’ll get an idea of the carbs for, for example, one hash brown. Always err on the side of caution. You don’t want a hypo, particularly not when you’re trying to enjoy yourself.

 

[Carlos]

@Drummer Most (all?) people on insulin don’t carb count fresh tomatoes. @DancingStar If you look at the kind of thing they’ll have online eg on a supermarket website, you’ll get an idea of the carbs for, for example, one hash brown. Always err on the side of caution. You don’t want a hypo, particularly not when you’re trying to enjoy yourself.

Also bear in mind that with a fat rich fry up carb absorption will be slower, so be conservative with your insulin and correct later if you need to.

 

[Drummer]

@Drummer Most (all?) people on insulin don’t carb count fresh tomatoes.

@DancingStar If you look at the kind of thing they’ll have online eg on a supermarket website, you’ll get an idea of the carbs for, for example, one hash brown. Always err on the side of caution. You don’t want a hypo, particularly not when you’re trying to enjoy yourself.

But the OP is concerned about counting carbs - I was a bit concerned that there might be an underestimation.
I certainly underestimated when living in a hotel for a week some years ago now and lost half a stone during my stay.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

But the OP is concerned about counting carbs - I was a bit concerned that there might be an underestimation.
I certainly underestimated when living in a hotel for a week some years ago now and lost half a stone during my stay.

You under estimated the carbs, and still lost half a stone?
I wish I could lose half a stone in a week in a hotel on unlimited bacon!!

 

[bulkbiker]

You under estimated the carbs, and still lost half a stone?
I wish I could lose half a stone in a week in a hotel on unlimited bacon!!

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[Deleted member 21371]

What happens if you eat nothing but bacon for 30 days straight? - Diet Doctor

Here’s a crazy idea: What would happen if you only ate bacon for 30 days? Or, perhaps, it’s not that crazy. Dan Quibell tried it and enjoyed it… and even lost 20 pounds: Ketogasm: What Happens When You Eat Nothing But Bacon for 30 Days Straight? Now there’s an active Facebook group with 3,000...

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Don't drag me into it.
@Drummer lost half a stone on under estimating carbs, not me.

Main takeaway from all the comments
"Actually after its cooked the calories are more like 1200-1500 so we are in a caloric deficit"
Low calorie is what you are actually supporting?
Never trawl the internet if you don't actually understand the posts?

 

[Inka]

But the OP is concerned about counting carbs - I was a bit concerned that there might be an underestimation.
I certainly underestimated when living in a hotel for a week some years ago now and lost half a stone during my stay.

Counting carbs when on insulin is very different from totalling up carbs as part of a diet strategy. In fact, the concern here is an over-estimation. I appreciate you’re diet-only Type 2 and don’t use insulin but your advice was not appropriate for the situation.

 

[Lucyr]

But the OP is concerned about counting carbs - I was a bit concerned that there might be an underestimation.
I certainly underestimated when living in a hotel for a week some years ago now and lost half a stone during my stay.

Better to underestimate then correct later, than overestimate where insulin dosing is concerned. Too little insulin only has consequences long term, too much insulin can kill you within hours

 

[Drummer]

You under estimated the carbs, and still lost half a stone?
I wish I could lose half a stone in a week in a hotel on unlimited bacon!!

Counting carbs when on insulin is very different from totalling up carbs as part of a diet strategy. In fact, the concern here is an over-estimation. I appreciate you’re diet-only Type 2 and don’t use insulin but your advice was not appropriate for the situation.

Tell the OP that they are doing it wrong then, please, and put forward your advice to them.
The OP's concern was the estimation of carb content - I was trying to reassure that they would soon gain the knack, not advise on their use or otherwise of insulin.

 

[Inka]

Tell the OP that they are doing it wrong then, please, and put forward your advice to them.
The OP's concern was the estimation of carb content - I was trying to reassure that they would soon gain the knack, not advise on their use or otherwise of insulin.

Which is what we were doing in our responses. Your comment about ‘might be able to add a tomato’ was bizarre. Again, your situation as a diet-only Type 2 totalling up carbs for the day to keep a rough eye on your intake is very different to that of a person on insulin. A tomato would be ‘free’ on insulin anyway, but your comment sounded like you hadn’t clicked that the OP was an insulin-user.