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Type 2 diagnosed today, quite shocked

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Carameline

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Hi, diagnosed today 31/3/22 with type 2, feeling a bit lost and worried, wasn't expecting it. Now trying to find as much info as possible and wondering what the best type 2 diet/recipe books to buy. Thanks
 
Morning @Carameline welcome to the forum, sorry to hear that you've got type 2 and the worry it's caused you.
I bought the Blood sugar diet book and the Caldesi diabetes cookbook, and they both have nice recipes in. They're both aimed at weight loss, but if you're not looking to lose weight, you can increase the portion sizes. There's a forum with book recommendations in too.
I know it's a worrying time right after diagnosis, but it gets easier as you find out more about what you can do to manage your diabetes. There's information in the courses on the Learning Zone (orange link at the top of the page), or there's a wealth of information in the forums.
How did you find out about your diabetes? Mine was part of a health check, and whilst it wasn't a complete surprise as it runs in my family, it still threw me a bit.
Ask any questions you have and we'll all be happy to answer to the best of our abiliites!
Kind regards, Sarah
 
Welcome the forum @Carameline

Goodness! You are right at the sharp end. Just a few hours into your new diagnosis. Glad you have found us so early on. It can be an emotional and overwhelming time, so be kind to yourself, and treat yourself gently.

Alongside registering for the ‘Learning Zone’, which has a comprehensive range of modules for you to work through, you might also find Maggie Davey’s Letter to the Newly Diagnosed and Gretchen Becker’s book T2 Diabetes, the first year, really helpful sources of information to give you a solid starting point.

Feel free to ask away with any questions on the forum too - people here instinctively ‘get it’, and know how confusing, fickle and frustrating diabetes can be, and how hard it can feel to get going.

Let us know how you get on 🙂
 
Weird feeling being diagnosed isn't it @Carameline? I thought my life as I knew it had ended but 2 years down the line I'm healthier than I've been for decades and living life to the full! Apart from the Carbs and Cals book I didn't buy any books, just cut out the main culprits: bread, potatoes, pasta and rice. I was lucky I didn't have a sweet tooth so no need to worry about cutting out cakes etc.
Word of warning: I just cut out all those carbs but I've since learned from this lovely forum that it's best to reduce them gradually to avoid problems with your eye sight.
Look forward to "speaking" with you again x
 
I agree with Vonny on the Carbs and Cals book. Just about everything including takeaways and different sized portions given a carb value. Really easy way to count carbs in the early days until you get used to what you can eat.
I felt like you at diagnosis but can honestly say i now feel healthier than i have for years. Low carb diet also helped me lose weight and boosted my confidence.
Plenty of friendly help and advice on this forum really helped too.
 
Morning @Carameline welcome to the forum, sorry to hear that you've got type 2 and the worry it's caused you.
I bought the Blood sugar diet book and the Caldesi diabetes cookbook, and they both have nice recipes in. They're both aimed at weight loss, but if you're not looking to lose weight, you can increase the portion sizes. There's a forum with book recommendations in too.
I know it's a worrying time right after diagnosis, but it gets easier as you find out more about what you can do to manage your diabetes. There's information in the courses on the Learning Zone (orange link at the top of the page), or there's a wealth of information in the forums.
How did you find out about your diabetes? Mine was part of a health check, and whilst it wasn't a complete surprise as it runs in my family, it still threw me a bit.
Ask any questions you have and we'll all be happy to answer to the best of our abiliites!
Kind regards, Sarah
Thank you so much for your reply and recommendations. It's very much appreciated. I have been in a bit of a scared panic about it all. I've been reading lots of information on here and online today so starting to understand it all a little more.
I asked my doctor for blood tests as I hadn't had any checks or health care for over 2 years thanks to the pandemic and my doctors not seeing anyone.
I was shocked as my blood glucose is very high at 15.4 and not sure why. My cholesterol is 7.1 which is high too so I feel like a ticking time bomb now! I've lost a stone in a year without really trying, I'm 13st 3 now and BMI is 29.
I've only had a phone call from the nurse practitioner who prescribed me Metformin 500mg one at breakfast for a week the 2 a day the following week. Plus the blood glucose machine and strips, started taking today. Due to see her on 21st April for more bloods and urine test.
So I've been trying to fathom it all out myself so far.
How long did it take you to get your blood glucose down at first?
 
Welcome the forum @Carameline

Goodness! You are right at the sharp end. Just a few hours into your new diagnosis. Glad you have found us so early on. It can be an emotional and overwhelming time, so be kind to yourself, and treat yourself gently.

Alongside registering for the ‘Learning Zone’, which has a comprehensive range of modules for you to work through, you might also find Maggie Davey’s Letter to the Newly Diagnosed and Gretchen Becker’s book T2 Diabetes, the first year, really helpful sources of information to give you a solid starting point.

Feel free to ask away with any questions on the forum too - people here instinctively ‘get it’, and know how confusing, fickle and frustrating diabetes can be, and how hard it can feel to get going.

Let us know how you get on 🙂
Thank you very much for replying and for the helpful recommendations.
Yes as soon as I had spoken to the nurse practitioner about my blood tests results I was in a panic about what to do and trying to understand it all especially with my result being so high at 15.4 I'm desperate to reduce it and so worried about the damage it could be doing. It's very reassuring to be a member on here to be able to have such lovely people on here to talk to and ask advice. Thank you so much
 
Weird feeling being diagnosed isn't it @Carameline? I thought my life as I knew it had ended but 2 years down the line I'm healthier than I've been for decades and living life to the full! Apart from the Carbs and Cals book I didn't buy any books, just cut out the main culprits: bread, potatoes, pasta and rice. I was lucky I didn't have a sweet tooth so no need to worry about cutting out cakes etc.
Word of warning: I just cut out all those carbs but I've since learned from this lovely forum that it's best to reduce them gradually to avoid problems with your eye sight.
Look forward to "speaking" with you again x
Thank you so much for your reply yep it is a weird feeling being diagnosed, I was just worrying about my cholesterol until diabetes got thrown in and thought like you my life is on a downward spiral but very reassuring to hear your doing so well and there is light at the end of the tunnel! Yeah I guess I probably have too many carbs so need to cut them down.
I was initially scared yesterday and thought what do I need to eat or not! Starting to work it out a little now and there does seem to be lots on this site about meals so feeling a little happier. Thank you once again and look forward to "speaking" to you again x
 
I agree with Vonny on the Carbs and Cals book. Just about everything including takeaways and different sized portions given a carb value. Really easy way to count carbs in the early days until you get used to what you can eat.
I felt like you at diagnosis but can honestly say i now feel healthier than i have for years. Low carb diet also helped me lose weight and boosted my confidence.
Plenty of friendly help and advice on this forum really helped too.
Thank you for replying, I'll get the Carbs and Cals book then, sounds very helpful thanks
Glad your feeling so much better, gives me hope to sort myself out now. My HbA1c is 150 which is scary Did it take you long after first diagnosis to see a difference in the figure?
Yes this forum seems a fantastic way of getting help and reassurance which I'm so thankful for. Thank you x
 
Thank you so much for your reply and recommendations. It's very much appreciated. I have been in a bit of a scared panic about it all. I've been reading lots of information on here and online today so starting to understand it all a little more.
I asked my doctor for blood tests as I hadn't had any checks or health care for over 2 years thanks to the pandemic and my doctors not seeing anyone.
I was shocked as my blood glucose is very high at 15.4 and not sure why. My cholesterol is 7.1 which is high too so I feel like a ticking time bomb now! I've lost a stone in a year without really trying, I'm 13st 3 now and BMI is 29.
I've only had a phone call from the nurse practitioner who prescribed me Metformin 500mg one at breakfast for a week the 2 a day the following week. Plus the blood glucose machine and strips, started taking today. Due to see her on 21st April for more bloods and urine test.
So I've been trying to fathom it all out myself so far.
How long did it take you to get your blood glucose down at first?
Hi Carameline, I didn't get a blood glucose reading when I was first diagnosed in late October last year, but it would have been around 13-14 ish, so not too different from yours. My cholesterol was 6.4, so also similar.
I went on a 800 calorie a day diet for three months, sort of based on the Newcastle diet which helped me lose 16kg. I did BG tests at home from December, and they were around 6mmol/mol fasting (normal for non diabetics is between 4 and 7).
When I got my bloods checked again in February, my HbA1c (which is a measure of the last three months blood glucose) had dropped from 80 mmol/mol in October to 42 mmol/mol, my fasting BG was about 5.5, and my cholesterol was 4.6. So it was about 4 months to get them both down.

I can't recommend throwing yourself straight into a very low calorie diet like I did, with hindsight, I'd probably do 1700 or 1500 calories for a month and then do the 800 calories, to give my body a chance to adjust to the lower level of food and reduce the glucose level a bit slower.

Your HbA1c is high, but there's others on the forum who had similar and got theirs down after some months, so take heart that it's doable. You don't have to do everything at once, take stock of what you eat currently, and think about how you can improve that.

If you change your diet to reduce your carbs, do it slowly, so your body can adapt to the lower levels. You may get blurry vision as your BG falls, as the eyes adapt to the new levels. It usually sorts itself within a month or two. Also, you're going onto metformin tablets and they may upset your tummy. If so, let your doctor know so that they can prescribe the slow release version.
Sarah
 
Hi Carameline, I didn't get a blood glucose reading when I was first diagnosed in late October last year, but it would have been around 13-14 ish, so not too different from yours. My cholesterol was 6.4, so also similar.
I went on a 800 calorie a day diet for three months, sort of based on the Newcastle diet which helped me lose 16kg. I did BG tests at home from December, and they were around 6mmol/mol fasting (normal for non diabetics is between 4 and 7).
When I got my bloods checked again in February, my HbA1c (which is a measure of the last three months blood glucose) had dropped from 80 mmol/mol in October to 42 mmol/mol, my fasting BG was about 5.5, and my cholesterol was 4.6. So it was about 4 months to get them both down.

I can't recommend throwing yourself straight into a very low calorie diet like I did, with hindsight, I'd probably do 1700 or 1500 calories for a month and then do the 800 calories, to give my body a chance to adjust to the lower level of food and reduce the glucose level a bit slower.

Your HbA1c is high, but there's others on the forum who had similar and got theirs down after some months, so take heart that it's doable. You don't have to do everything at once, take stock of what you eat currently, and think about how you can improve that.

If you change your diet to reduce your carbs, do it slowly, so your body can adapt to the lower levels. You may get blurry vision as your BG falls, as the eyes adapt to the new levels. It usually sorts itself within a month or two. Also, you're going onto metformin tablets and they may upset your tummy. If so, let your doctor know so that they can prescribe the slow release version.
Sarah
Thanks Sarah, I get a bit muddled with the figures for the bloods, the 15.4 was the reading on my blood glucose monitor today, the figure I got from the nurse yesterday was HbA1c 150mmol/mol she said normal should be 40 so I was really shocked. Its reassuring to know its doable, I'm going to have to work very hard and get plenty of walking in as I have been quite lazy with exercise for a while.
Thanks for the advice about reducing carbs slowly and about the metformin. Only took first one this morning so will see how I go. The pharmacist said he is going to ring me in a weeks time to see how I am getting on with the tablets, so that is good and quite surprising!
Caroline x
 
Thank you for replying, I'll get the Carbs and Cals book then, sounds very helpful thanks
Glad your feeling so much better, gives me hope to sort myself out now. My HbA1c is 150 which is scary Did it take you long after first diagnosis to see a difference in the figure?
Yes this forum seems a fantastic way of getting help and reassurance which I'm so thankful for. Thank you x
I was 108 at diagnosis and feeling dreadful. Tired with blurry eyesight, constant UTIs and insatiable thirst. I joined this site and decided i would try the low carb way that lots of members seem to have had success with. I tried to keep below 100 carbs a day to begin with and lost a lot of weight and BGs dropped to 40mmols 3 months later and then lower again at further checks. I managed to drop from 1000mg Metformin to diet and exercise only. A good walk after dinner kept my BG at good levels. If i want the occasional treats or something higher carb i walk it off or use my eliptical trainer/exercise bike after. I tend to avoid potatoes, rice, pasta and pastries and cakes. I still have bread in moderation but usually Nimble or Weightwatchers Wholemeal. I love fry ups and can still have them and also cheese which i love.
I would say however best to take slow and steady and perhaps my sudden drop was a bit too fast (which i didn't know at the time) to avoid and possible damage to eyes with rapid changes. Luckily i didn't do any damage but best be safe.
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
 
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Thanks Sarah, I get a bit muddled with the figures for the bloods, the 15.4 was the reading on my blood glucose monitor today, the figure I got from the nurse yesterday was HbA1c 150mmol/mol she said normal should be 40 so I was really shocked. Its reassuring to know its doable, I'm going to have to work very hard and get plenty of walking in as I have been quite lazy with exercise for a while.
Thanks for the advice about reducing carbs slowly and about the metformin. Only took first one this morning so will see how I go. The pharmacist said he is going to ring me in a weeks time to see how I am getting on with the tablets, so that is good and quite surprising!
Caroline x
The two things are different measures of blood glucose, the 150mmol/mol is an average blood glucose over the previous three months but the 15.4mmol/l from your monitor is a spot reading at that moment in time and broadly reflects the effect food is having on your blood glucose. If your body is unable to cope with the amount of carbohydrate you are eating then you level will be high.
The way to bring that level down is to reduce your intake of carbs. A normal level should be 4-7mmol/l fasting or before meals and no more than 8.5mmol/l 2 hours after food. In order to find what food you can tolerate a testing regime of testing before you eat and after 2 hours aiming for no more than a 2-3mmol/l increase otherwise your meal is too carb heavy and you need to cut something out or reduce portion size of the high carb food.
This link might be useful for some ideas for a way forward. https://lowcarbfreshwell.co.uk/
 
The two things are different measures of blood glucose, the 150mmol/mol is an average blood glucose over the previous three months but the 15.4mmol/l from your monitor is a spot reading at that moment in time and broadly reflects the effect food is having on your blood glucose. If your body is unable to cope with the amount of carbohydrate you are eating then you level will be high.
The way to bring that level down is to reduce your intake of carbs. A normal level should be 4-7mmol/l fasting or before meals and no more than 8.5mmol/l 2 hours after food. In order to find what food you can tolerate a testing regime of testing before you eat and after 2 hours aiming for no more than a 2-3mmol/l increase otherwise your meal is too carb heavy and you need to cut something out or reduce portion size of the high carb food.
This link might be useful for some ideas for a way forward. https://lowcarbfreshwell.co.uk/
Thank you for explaining that for me, that's very helpful. Hopefully I will have a better day tomorrow now I'm more informed Thanks again
 
Ohhh yess it is a bit, no, it is very scary at diagnosis, especially being left to work it out yourself.

I too was an HbA1c 150 at diagnosis but having worked out that it is the carbs that are the enemy I created a diet battle plan and within weeks saw my blood glucose settle into the normal range. So things can seriously improve.

There can be a lot of positives to your health getting blood glucose down. Fitter, healthier, more energy, happier, you name it.

Oh, and I rediscovered 'food' and the 'taste of food' which is a real joy now.

My HbA1c now is 37 quite a difference from 150 and I put it ALL down to finding this forum and the help and advice from the people here.

Good luck
 
Thank you very much for replying and for the helpful recommendations.
Yes as soon as I had spoken to the nurse practitioner about my blood tests results I was in a panic about what to do and trying to understand it all especially with my result being so high at 15.4 I'm desperate to reduce it and so worried about the damage it could be doing. It's very reassuring to be a member on here to be able to have such lovely people on here to talk to and ask advice. Thank you so much
you can also read Professor Roy Taylor's book 'life without diabetes' which was my bible.
 
Ohhh yess it is a bit, no, it is very scary at diagnosis, especially being left to work it out yourself.

I too was an HbA1c 150 at diagnosis but having worked out that it is the carbs that are the enemy I created a diet battle plan and within weeks saw my blood glucose settle into the normal range. So things can seriously improve.

There can be a lot of positives to your health getting blood glucose down. Fitter, healthier, more energy, happier, you name it.

Oh, and I rediscovered 'food' and the 'taste of food' which is a real joy now.

My HbA1c now is 37 quite a difference from 150 and I put it ALL down to finding this forum and the help and advice from the people here.

Good luck
Oh Gwynn thank you so much. I am so glad to discover someone who had such a high HbA1c level as me and to hear how well you've overcome it. That really gives me hope and inspiration!
Very well done on your success and thank you for your inspiration and good wishes
 
So do tell us what you decide to do/change going forwards. It will be really great to see your successes. Good luck
 
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