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Diabetes and cancer

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Bewdley13

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Hi,

I'm male and aged 63, height 5'10". I had a double whammy last year. In June 2021, I was diagnosed diabetic with a reading of 50. Then, in August, I was diagnosed with colon cancer (after having two negative bowel screening tests in 2018 and 2021). I finally had an operation to remove the tumour in October. I knew something was very wrong, as I lost 2" off my waist in August! I was placed on a low residue diet prior to my operation and the weight dropped off me even more. I went from a 40" waist to a 36" waist by December 2021, and my last blood test in January 2022 confirmed a reading of 39. In March 2020, at the start of the lockdown, I weighed 104kgs and I'm now 89kgs. I had to throw out all of my clothes (mostly to the Brirtish Heart Foundation) and buy a completely new wardrobe!

I've been on a self-imposed strict diet, which includes no alcohol (since August 2021) and trying to take walks as often as I can. I'm taking chemo tablets for the next 6 months and still at work, full-time. I'm knackered, though! 🙂

My diabetes nurse had told me that I'm now a 'diabetic in remission'. So, I reversed diabetes by getting cancer, basically.

I believe that there is a link between bowel cancer and diabetes, which is no doubt linked to lifestyle? I smoked until I was 60 (I stopped when I had a mini-stroke). I drank too much alcohol and I didn't take any frequent, or meaningful, exercise. I didn't give much thought to what I was eating although I did go pescatarian in 2018. Way too many choc bars and garage butties when I was out on the road - I work in sales. I couldn't tell you how much I spent on a garage butty, a chocolate Boost bar and a packet of Marlboro fags Monday to Friday, all while driving 200 miles a day sometimes! What a bad way to live your life. And stress? Way too much stress. But for years, I just felt too tired to be bothered to do anything about it.

Mind you, you can't live your life in a bubble. I think the key is to manage it all properly, think about what you're doing to yourself. And listen to what the experts tell you. I know so many people who castigate those who won't have the Covid jab, for example, while puffing on a fag and necking 5 pints of beer on a regular basis, before they go home and order a takeaway pizza. You simply can't pick and choose which advice you want to heed. I'm not being judgmental, as I know myself that it's so hard to change your lifestyle.

Oh, more advice - when you get to a certain age, like me, take a look in the pan after a 'movement' to look for blood and if there's a history of bowel cancer in the family (my dad died with bowel cancer at the age of 70 and he was diagnosed with diabetes 10 years previously and lost a leg up to his knee, due to diabetes, when he was 65) ask your GP to arrange a colonoscopy. I had a colonoscopy in September last year and it really wasn't that bad. Don't ignore the medical advice.

Finally, I am a bit confused with the advice for diet while dealing with these issues. I'm on chemo and told to eat 'little and often' after my surgery (I 'joke' that I have a semi-colon now, instead of a colon) and yet the advice for diabetes is to eat three meals a day to avoid 'spiking' too often during the day. I guess cancer 'trumps' diabetes, though.
 
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Hi,

I'm male and aged 63, height 5'10". I had a double whammy last year. In June 2021, I was diagnosed diabetic with a reading of 50. Then, in August, I was diagnosed with colon cancer (after having two negative bowel screening tests in 2018 and 2021). I finally had an operation to remove the tumour in October. I knew something was very wrong, as I lost 2" off my waist in August! I was placed on a low residue diet prior to my operation and the weight dropped off me even more. I went from a 40" waist to a 36" waist by December 2021, and my last blood test in January 2022 confirmed a reading of 39. In March 2020, at the start of the lockdown, I weighed 104kgs and I'm now 89kgs. I had to throw out all of my clothes (mostly to the Brirtish Heart Foundation) and buy a completely new wardrobe!

I've been on a self-imposed strict diet, which includes no alcohol (since August 2021) and trying to take walks as often as I can. I'm taking chemo tablets for the next 6 months and still at work, full-time. I'm knackered, though! 🙂

My diabetes nurse had told me that I'm now a 'diabetic in remission'. So, I reversed diabetes by getting cancer, basically.

I believe that there is a link between bowel cancer and diabetes, which is no doubt linked to lifestyle? I smoked until I was 60 (I stopped when I had a mini-stroke). I drank too much alcohol and I didn't take any frequent, or meaningful, exercise. I didn't give much thought to what I was eating although I did go pescatarian in 2018. Way too many choc bars and garage butties when I was out on the road - I work in sales. I couldn't tell you how much I spent on a garage butty, a chocolate Boost bar and a packet of Marlboro fags Monday to Friday, all while driving 200 miles a day sometimes! What a bad way to live your life. And stress? Way too much stress. But for years, I just felt too tired to be bothered to do anything about it.

Mind you, you can't live your life in a bubble. I think the key is to manage it all properly, think about what you're doing to yourself. And listen to what the experts tell you. I know so many people who castigate those who won't have the Covid jab, for example, while puffing on a fag and necking 5 pints of beer on a regular basis, before they go home and order a takeaway pizza. You simply can't pick and choose which advice you want to heed. I'm not being judgemental, as I know myself that it's so hard to change your lifestyle.

Oh, more advice - when you get to a certain age, like me, take a look in the pan after a 'movement' to look for blood and if there's a history of bowel cancer in the family (my dad died with bowel cancer at the age of 70 and he was diagnosed with diabetes 10 years previously and lost a leg up to his knee, due to diabetes, when he was 65). I had a colonoscopy in September last year and it really wasn't that bad. Don't ignore the medical advice.

Finally, I am a bit confused with the advice for diet while dealing with these issues. I'm on chemo and told to eat 'little and often' after my surgery (I 'joke' that I have a semi-colon now, instead of a colon) and yet the advice for diabetes is to eat three meals a day to avoid 'spiking' too often during the day. I guess cancer 'trumps' diabetes, though.
Welcome to the forum, what a story you have to tell. Good that most have been resolved.
When people have multiple complex conditions which can conflict with dietary advice the best thing you can do is what works for you but keeping a watch full eye on blood glucose levels and take action if it starts to go up. You can then re-evaluate your diet.
 
Morning @Bewdley13 welcome to the forum. Sorry to hear about your cancer and diabetes, it sounds like you've been through quite a bit recently. Really happy to hear that you're in remission, despite the reason why.
The reason you'd spike your blood glucose is by eating carbohydrate rich meals (or boost bars), but if you're in remission, I'm guessing your pancreas is doing a lot better and should be able to sort out the spikes for you. I definitely say eat for the cancer and semi-colon (great pun, I am a fan of them!).
Whilst you probably don't want to be testing your blood glucose levels, it would be helpful for you to see if you can eat anything you like due to your remission, or if you need to keep an eye on your meals and adjust them if you eat something your body can't cope with. The BG monitors aren't usually provided for T2 diabetics, but I bought my own, a Gluco navii from Amazon, and test my blood first thing in the morning, and before and 2 hours after a meal, if it's something I don't know what it's going to do to my BG.
You sound like you're doing well, despite the diagnoses.
Kind regards, Sarah
 
Hi Bewdley13, welcome to the forum.

Sorry to hear about your diagnosis, it's difficult enough dealing with one condition let alone two. You've given some great advice as experience is often the best teacher.

Regarding when to eat, annoyingly, there's no one rule suits all so it's best to go through a normal week and test yourself in the morning and two hours after your meal. You can then judge what works best for you.

You can find out a bit more about testing plans here https://www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-to-diabetes/managing-your-diabetes/testing
 
Hi again,

I recently had my diabetes review in June 2022. Last January 2022 my blood test showed a reading of 39, now it is down to 33. My cholestrol reading has also plummeted to 3.3 All the '3s', eh. I asked the Diabetes Nurse if I should still be taking 40mgs of statins every day and I was told that the statins are the reason why I'm diabetic in remission with such low cholestrol.

The thing is, I wasn't in remission with the diabetes until I got cancer last October. and gave up alcohol, completely changed my lifestyle (no booze since August 2021) and lost 3 stone - I take exercise (vigourous 2 and half mile walks, everyday, 45 minutes). I've managed to keep the weight off. I've been on statins since 2018, so I fail to see how it is the statins that have worked wonders when they had had no effect prior to that?

Is anyone else on statins here and do they really work?
 
I asked the Diabetes Nurse if I should still be taking 40mgs of statins every day and I was told that the statins are the reason why I'm diabetic in remission with such low cholestrol.
I'm not on statins, though I was offered them in my last medicine review, and opted to lose more weight to see if that helped with my lipids first.
As far as I'm aware (no medical training, but just what I've read as a lay person), statins only affect lipid levels and don't do anything to blood glucose, so I think the nurse was mistaken.
I'd say it was more to do with the weight loss, both unplanned due to your cancer, and planned, with you doing more walking and not drinking. You should be proud of yourself for your good cholesterol levels and HbA1c. Best wishes for a long and healthy future for you 🙂, Sarah
PS there's an article on the main Diabetes UK site which says that statins reduce the risk of death from heart attack by a third, based on data from a study published in the Lancet.
 
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