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Oh yeah that makes sense
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Hello, newly diagnosed T2
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harbottle
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I did read a discussion on another forum where they were skeptical that the calculation could bring the lag down so much, but speculated that the maths might have changed.
I’ve been using the Libre and finger prick side by side and the Libre is generally .6-1.2 higher - this morning when I got up it was giving me readings of 6, but a finger prick gave me 4.9. I can see the peaks and drops (although it tends to give errors during rises/falls and the graph ends up missing chunks!)
This morning was an experiment with 30g of oats with some peanut butter- finger peaked at 8.1, and 2 hours later was less than 7.
The Libre is a great device, but I’m not sure I need one. Most of the meals I eat now don’t create spikes and I tend to be back down after a few hours if they do.
I see a lot of f sites recommending oats for type 2s, but they are high in carb and seem to create a spike. The same amount of carbs in a meal of vegetables and meat doesn’t do anything to me, some of them barely touch the BG levels.
I’ve been using the Libre and finger prick side by side and the Libre is generally .6-1.2 higher - this morning when I got up it was giving me readings of 6, but a finger prick gave me 4.9. I can see the peaks and drops (although it tends to give errors during rises/falls and the graph ends up missing chunks!)
This morning was an experiment with 30g of oats with some peanut butter- finger peaked at 8.1, and 2 hours later was less than 7.
The Libre is a great device, but I’m not sure I need one. Most of the meals I eat now don’t create spikes and I tend to be back down after a few hours if they do.
I see a lot of f sites recommending oats for type 2s, but they are high in carb and seem to create a spike. The same amount of carbs in a meal of vegetables and meat doesn’t do anything to me, some of them barely touch the BG levels.
Hmmmm - I've heard the same about oats.
But ---- since metformin they have spiked my BG and seem to give me the chronic runs.
I guess we're all different. It would seem I'm more sensitive to the carbs in oats and the fibre does it's job too well!
I'm currently trying scrambled eggs for breakfast (only a 1.0 rise in BG after two hours).
Now I know these seem to be OK, I will slowly add extra things and test, test, test.
But ---- since metformin they have spiked my BG and seem to give me the chronic runs.
I guess we're all different. It would seem I'm more sensitive to the carbs in oats and the fibre does it's job too well!
I'm currently trying scrambled eggs for breakfast (only a 1.0 rise in BG after two hours).
Now I know these seem to be OK, I will slowly add extra things and test, test, test.
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My normal breakfast of Greek Yoghurt and Berries doesn't even show a rise most of the time. I occasionally have scrambled eggs/mushroom omelette, but haven't done any readings yet. After my last cholesterol reading (LDL up, HDL and Trig down to normal levels) and a threat of drugs, I've been a bit put off of them. I don't eat much food that has a lot of saturated fat in it, and the recipes I follow with things that do have sats are usually in very small portions.
The weird thing about oats is that when I ate them I felt quite energetic and a bit 'warm' (I get the same when I eat a Daal dish with loads of lentils, which doesn't cause a BG spike or have a cappuccino with dairy milk.) I've been using rolled oats, soaked overnight, but I've got some steel cut oats to try as these are apparently better. I don't get the runs, generally the opposite! The last time I had the runs was after having a 'Gym Box' (Chicken and veg) from a place called German Doner Kebab! I haven't been back since.
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The "runs" are almost certainly down to the Metformin rather than the oats. It is a well known side effect or it could possibly be a combination of the two but I would be surprised if the oats themselves were responsible.
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Bit of an update.
After Xmas I started 'finger pricking' more often as a I was paranoid the reduction of Metformin would lead to BG going to up.
Generally in the morning I'm less than 6 and generally in the high 4s and low 5s. I don't seem to get high BG in the morning like a lot of people do. I have not seen a reading over 8 for months - highest was in the mid 7s an hour after I ate five oat cakes.
Strange changes have been happening, though. Before I was diagnosed I'd seen the GP (Had a telephone call, where I did say I was concerned that I might be diabetic, but they told me I wasn't as I didn't have the classic symptoms) about thigh pains. When I went in to get some 50 year health checks done my heart rate was 120 so they made me do an ECG which was fine. My 'resting' heart rate was generally around 95-100. I also had muscle twitching and after walking (Which was not painful) sitting down did seem to cause aches and twitching. This had got worse after a weekend hiking in the Wyre forest.
After starting on Metformin and the diet (I did it quickly, which I now see was probably not wise) the pain became bearable and I started to sleep again. (Actually, initially after starting the Metformin/Diet the pains got worse for a while.) When I saw the Diabetes Nurse in October, she said the pulse in my feet was very strong and they were in better conditions than hers.
This year, over the last few weeks, I've seen my resting heart rate fall day by day to the sixties. All the aches and pains have gone in my legs as has the slight 'numbness' in my knee. Looking at my watch data, I can see that VO2 has been increasing to above average, walking heart rate has been falling as has resting heart rate... I also feel stronger and warmer and when I do my 'brisk' walk around Warwick Uni I can feel my legs are stronger and am thinking about finding a more challenging/longer walk.
Looking at my watch data (I had no idea it has been recording all this stuff) I can see that my heart rate went up in May/June of last year (When the leg pain started and I got stressed at work) and started to fall in December/End of November (When I started to feel a lot better and people at work commented that I don't 'look like a ghost' anymore.)
I mentioned high heart rate and aches and pains to the GP and nurse, but got shrugged off. Clearly something has been changing since December, and has accelerated recently, as I can see changes almost daily. I can take an ECG on my watch and get an average heart rate in the low 60s. Five months ago the lowest I could get was 95.
The only thing I can't fix is the loss of my derriere since getting my BMI to the middle of my range. It's like sitting on bones.
I was also quite happy that a gum operation I had last year healed perfectly (And my gum disease has totally gone, a bleeding score of zero which surprised the dentist who said 'your gums are healthier than mine' now).
I bought a couple of Libre 2 sensors after using a free 'trial' one, but don't think I'll bother with them again - the results were bizarre with the second one, with weird sudden high readings if I moved my arm or went for a walk (It shot up when I cleaned my teeth!). I think I might have placed it in the wrong position.
I have managed to stop any 'carb creep' - the odd crisp or a small handful of chips don't seem to cause any issues, neither do oranges/satsumas/apples... probably eating too many nuts and peanut butter (With celery! Yum!)
I have also managed to get back into my hobby of writing (I felt so bad last year I couldn't do anything) and have recently finished a screenplay which I might try to make (I made films when I was a teenager using Super 8) and a few short stories.
Now I just need to maintain it this way!
(Thanks to anyone who got this far.)
After Xmas I started 'finger pricking' more often as a I was paranoid the reduction of Metformin would lead to BG going to up.
Generally in the morning I'm less than 6 and generally in the high 4s and low 5s. I don't seem to get high BG in the morning like a lot of people do. I have not seen a reading over 8 for months - highest was in the mid 7s an hour after I ate five oat cakes.
Strange changes have been happening, though. Before I was diagnosed I'd seen the GP (Had a telephone call, where I did say I was concerned that I might be diabetic, but they told me I wasn't as I didn't have the classic symptoms) about thigh pains. When I went in to get some 50 year health checks done my heart rate was 120 so they made me do an ECG which was fine. My 'resting' heart rate was generally around 95-100. I also had muscle twitching and after walking (Which was not painful) sitting down did seem to cause aches and twitching. This had got worse after a weekend hiking in the Wyre forest.
After starting on Metformin and the diet (I did it quickly, which I now see was probably not wise) the pain became bearable and I started to sleep again. (Actually, initially after starting the Metformin/Diet the pains got worse for a while.) When I saw the Diabetes Nurse in October, she said the pulse in my feet was very strong and they were in better conditions than hers.
This year, over the last few weeks, I've seen my resting heart rate fall day by day to the sixties. All the aches and pains have gone in my legs as has the slight 'numbness' in my knee. Looking at my watch data, I can see that VO2 has been increasing to above average, walking heart rate has been falling as has resting heart rate... I also feel stronger and warmer and when I do my 'brisk' walk around Warwick Uni I can feel my legs are stronger and am thinking about finding a more challenging/longer walk.
Looking at my watch data (I had no idea it has been recording all this stuff) I can see that my heart rate went up in May/June of last year (When the leg pain started and I got stressed at work) and started to fall in December/End of November (When I started to feel a lot better and people at work commented that I don't 'look like a ghost' anymore.)
I mentioned high heart rate and aches and pains to the GP and nurse, but got shrugged off. Clearly something has been changing since December, and has accelerated recently, as I can see changes almost daily. I can take an ECG on my watch and get an average heart rate in the low 60s. Five months ago the lowest I could get was 95.
The only thing I can't fix is the loss of my derriere since getting my BMI to the middle of my range. It's like sitting on bones.
I was also quite happy that a gum operation I had last year healed perfectly (And my gum disease has totally gone, a bleeding score of zero which surprised the dentist who said 'your gums are healthier than mine' now).
I bought a couple of Libre 2 sensors after using a free 'trial' one, but don't think I'll bother with them again - the results were bizarre with the second one, with weird sudden high readings if I moved my arm or went for a walk (It shot up when I cleaned my teeth!). I think I might have placed it in the wrong position.
I have managed to stop any 'carb creep' - the odd crisp or a small handful of chips don't seem to cause any issues, neither do oranges/satsumas/apples... probably eating too many nuts and peanut butter (With celery! Yum!)
I have also managed to get back into my hobby of writing (I felt so bad last year I couldn't do anything) and have recently finished a screenplay which I might try to make (I made films when I was a teenager using Super 8) and a few short stories.
Now I just need to maintain it this way!
(Thanks to anyone who got this far.)
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Absolutely fantastic improvement and I can relate to many of the things you mention. Huge "WELL DONE" on turning your life around.
As regards the derriere situation.... powering up hills is the answer. Having lived at the bottom of a steep hill almost my entire life and scarpered up it daily, my partner can/will vouch for the "benefit" to the posterior. 😉 Not saying I would give Kim Kardashian a run for her money, nor would I wish to, but definitely never worried about discomfort even when seated on the hardest of surfaces or landing on it from a great height when my errant steed Rascal would throw me up in the air and fail to catch me again. 🙄
As regards the derriere situation.... powering up hills is the answer. Having lived at the bottom of a steep hill almost my entire life and scarpered up it daily, my partner can/will vouch for the "benefit" to the posterior. 😉 Not saying I would give Kim Kardashian a run for her money, nor would I wish to, but definitely never worried about discomfort even when seated on the hardest of surfaces or landing on it from a great height when my errant steed Rascal would throw me up in the air and fail to catch me again. 🙄
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I live at the bottom of a slight hill and power walk up it once or twice a week - Coventry is quite flat in general.
I spent last night sitting on an uncomfortable chair at a music gig in the Cathedral. It felt like I was sitting on my bones!
One other thing I have noticed regarding health is that my VO2 has, in the last month, been going up - it's gone from low through average to above average almost daily (Another stat that my watch has been recording for some time). I've noticed that as this has happened I feel a lot more energetic and I am starting to feel that a brisk walk is not hard enough and I need to start running or jogging.
I don't think I realised how ill I was last year. The whole year up until September is a bit of a blur - too much work, lack of sleep and pains didn't help! I can't even remember stuff I did at work, and even listening to new records that I bought when I was in agony brings back memories of pain.
I spent last night sitting on an uncomfortable chair at a music gig in the Cathedral. It felt like I was sitting on my bones!
One other thing I have noticed regarding health is that my VO2 has, in the last month, been going up - it's gone from low through average to above average almost daily (Another stat that my watch has been recording for some time). I've noticed that as this has happened I feel a lot more energetic and I am starting to feel that a brisk walk is not hard enough and I need to start running or jogging.
I don't think I realised how ill I was last year. The whole year up until September is a bit of a blur - too much work, lack of sleep and pains didn't help! I can't even remember stuff I did at work, and even listening to new records that I bought when I was in agony brings back memories of pain.
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Can you buy one of the foam pads that hill walkers use to cushion their bottoms when they sit on rocks? They do folding ones too, or I bought an A4ish sized kneeler pad from a pound shop a while ago, which would do the same job.
Sadly I come with my own built in padding!
Glad to hear you're feeling more energetic.
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