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trophywench said:
G'day to you too, Alan! Long time no communicate. Hope all's well down under.
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G'day again Jenny. Trophywench? I won't ask 🙂. I hope you and yours are well too.

All's well, still no complications, triple vaxed and haven't caught covid so far, same for the family, busy renovating a house among other things and hoping to eventually start travelling again before I become an octogenarian.

I have regained some time after the demise of the ADA forum. It was a strange progression there. I joined in 2004 to rail against the prevailing high-carb ADA advice; I expected to be swiftly ejected. I wasn't, but sailed pretty close to the wind and over the next ten years others slowly joined the chorus and they started listening. For the past few years I was, believe it or not, a moderator! But then the bean-counters in the organisation decided forum software management was an expense they did not need and without much warning and zero communication to moderators or members the forum ceased earlier this year. Sadly, DSFUK has now gone too. So here I am 🙂.
 
Alan S said:
G'day again Jenny. Trophywench? I won't ask 🙂. I hope you and yours are well too.

All's well, still no complications, triple vaxed and haven't caught covid so far, same for the family, busy renovating a house among other things and hoping to eventually start travelling again before I become an octogenarian.

I have regained some time after the demise of the ADA forum. It was a strange progression there. I joined in 2004 to rail against the prevailing high-carb ADA advice; I expected to be swiftly ejected. I wasn't, but sailed pretty close to the wind and over the next ten years others slowly joined the chorus and they started listening. For the past few years I was, believe it or not, a moderator! But then the bean-counters in the organisation decided forum software management was an expense they did not need and without much warning and zero communication to moderators or members the forum ceased earlier this year. Sadly, DSFUK has now gone too. So here I am 🙂.
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Wow! Really sad for our antipodean friends that they have lost their forum, but great for us that we get to benefit from your experience and wisdom here again now and hopefully others from that forum will join us here too.

I would like to say many thanks for your blog and particularly the "Test Review Adjust" post as it was a great help to me when I was first diagnosed nearly 3 years ago. The low carb way of eating has helped me to control my disordered eating and improve my diabetes management enormously, even though I am actually Type 1. It really has made a massive difference to my life and I am fitter and slimmer and healthier that I have been for 20+ years.
 
I've always thought the NHS could save a lot more time effort and money if they just handed a copy of 'Test, Review, Adjust' to anyone whatever Type they happened to be, the same day they were diagnosed.

(It's so bloomin sensible of course there's never been much chance of that happening .....)

We're both OK thanks - triple jabbed too - are you still sizzling snags on Saturday mornings these days? - or has most of that sort of thing ground to a halt because of you know what?

The TW handle came once Pete had bought a Triumph Trophy motorbike and joined a bike forum where he called himself Trophychap - (chap being the contraction of his surname) and since I was the only wench that was going on the pillion, it just followed. I could have got Admin here to change my user name on here but since it's the same avatar photo and folk on here already knew me as TW anyway, I just left it.
 
Link is in Alan's signature below his posts, but anyway here's that specific page

Type 2 Diabetes - A Personal Journey

Managing blood glucose levels for type 2 diabetes. Learning how to achieve long term control by testing and diet.
loraldiabetes.blogspot.com loraldiabetes.blogspot.com
 
rebrascora said:
Wow! Really sad for our antipodean friends that they have lost their forum, but great for us that we get to benefit from your experience and wisdom here again now and hopefully others from that forum will join us here too.

I would like to say many thanks for your blog and particularly the "Test Review Adjust" post as it was a great help to me when I was first diagnosed nearly 3 years ago. The low carb way of eating has helped me to control my disordered eating and improve my diabetes management enormously, even though I am actually Type 1. It really has made a massive difference to my life and I am fitter and slimmer and healthier that I have been for 20+ years.
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Thanks Barbara. Appreciation is always appreciated 🙂.

I am afraid I never discovered an Aussie forum which is why I began on usenet's alt.support.diabetes and misc.health.diabetes when I was first diagnosed. I met Patti and other very wise people on there and learned a lot. The ADA I referred to was the American Diabetes Association. As most of the western world - including the NHS and the Australian Diabetes Association - slavishly followed the ADA's dietary advice for diabetics I felt it was vital to do what I could to change the "eat lots of whole grains, avoid fat like the plague and take meds or insulin to manage blood glucose" advice of that era. I was not alone, many others felt similarly. Over time we chipped away at the wall; thank goodness that old advice has slowly changed but too many doctors and dieticians have still not woken up to that change.
 
trophywench said:
We're both OK thanks - triple jabbed too - are you still sizzling snags on Saturday mornings these days? - or has most of that sort of thing ground to a halt because of you know what?
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Sadly the pandemic put paid to the sausage sizzle. After 17 years behind the barby at 6am twice a month if it ever re-starts I might leave it to a younger volunteer.
trophywench said:
The TW handle came once Pete had bought a Triumph Trophy motorbike and joined a bike forum where he called himself Trophychap - (chap being the contraction of his surname) and since I was the only wench that was going on the pillion, it just followed. I could have got Admin here to change my user name on here but since it's the same avatar photo and folk on here already knew me as TW anyway, I just left it.
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I recognised the beautiful avatar instantly. Nice to see a friendly face immediately on my return.
 
..... and the only time we've ever met, both of us looked like our avatar pics too! :D
 
my testing device came and my first test after sleep without food was 3.5
there is a single red strip in the contents (ten test strips) in a baggy
any idea what it does? Navi2
 
A BG level of below 4 is hypo so you need 15grams of carbs such as a small 150ml can of full sugar coke
 
Lily123 said:
A BG level of below 4 is hypo so you need 15grams of carbs such as a small 150ml can of full sugar coke
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This should not be necessary for someone who is not on insulin or Gliclazide as the liver is quite capable of rectifying any slight low like this and bringing levels back up. The only reason below 4 is dangerous for those of us on insulin or Glic is that it can go much lower due to a artificial surfeit of insulin and the liver may not have enough stores to bring it back up and also that regular readings below 4 mean that we are at risk of losing hypo awareness, but a reading of 3.5 does not pose a danger to the average person.

@LordVauge Unless you have already dramatically reduced your carb intake, I wonder if this is a rogue reading. It is always a good idea to recheck any unusual readings and make sure hands are clean and dry before doing so. 3.5 is lower than I would expect for a morning reading particularly as our liver usually releases more glucose into our blood stream on a morning to give us energy for the day.... unless you indulged in some alcoholic beverages last night and your liver is still trying to process the alcohol.
 
rebrascora said:
This should not be necessary for someone who is not on insulin or Gliclazide as the liver is quite capable of rectifying any slight low like this and bringing levels back up. The only reason below 4 is dangerous for those of us on insulin or Glic is that it can go much lower due to a artificial surfeit of insulin and the liver may not have enough stores to bring it back up and also that regular readings below 4 mean that we are at risk of losing hypo awareness, but a reading of 3.5 does not pose a danger to the average person.

@LordVauge Unless you have already dramatically reduced your carb intake, I wonder if this is a rogue reading. It is always a good idea to recheck any unusual readings and make sure hands are clean and dry before doing so. 3.5 is lower than I would expect for a morning reading particularly as our liver usually releases more glucose into our blood stream on a morning to give us energy for the day.... unless you indulged in some alcoholic beverages last night and your liver is still trying to process the alcohol.
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Oops sorry. I wasn’t aware of this
 
rebrascora said:
This should not be necessary for someone who is not on insulin or Gliclazide as the liver is quite capable of rectifying any slight low like this and bringing levels back up. The only reason below 4 is dangerous for those of us on insulin or Glic is that it can go much lower due to a artificial surfeit of insulin and the liver may not have enough stores to bring it back up and also that regular readings below 4 mean that we are at risk of losing hypo awareness, but a reading of 3.5 does not pose a danger to the average person.

@LordVauge Unless you have already dramatically reduced your carb intake, I wonder if this is a rogue reading. It is always a good idea to recheck any unusual readings and make sure hands are clean and dry before doing so. 3.5 is lower than I would expect for a morning reading particularly as our liver usually releases more glucose into our blood stream on a morning to give us energy for the day.... unless you indulged in some alcoholic beverages last night and your liver is still trying to process the alcohol.
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Having my morning coffee after a long night
the meter having just arrived I normally dont
eat for a few hours having a single tea spoon
of sugar ,no milk 1lt of strong coffee so 3.5 was
enough for my missus to push a bannana at me
lol my one hour reading is 14.7 ouch

I have been on faily low carbs for a week my body/mind
seems to be convinced theres something missing ,a big
empty hollow feeling and taste of food/drink is somehow
off/metalic
 
For a reading after eating you would need to wait till it had been 2 hours after eating as your BG will change over that 2 hour time and after 2 hours you have your after eating BG
 
LordVauge said:
Im just in test test test mode , new tools
i will settle down in a couple of days 🙂
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I know with new toys it is tempting to keep testing but it is better to establish a sensible testing regime that will give you useful information on which to base dietary changes or if you feel unwell to see if it is related to either high or low levels.
Testing before you eat and after 2 hours will tell you if that meal has been OK for your body to tolerate.
Just randomly testing will not tell you much as everybody's blood glucose varies during the day for many different reasons.
 
just did the two hour test 11.6 feel a bit headachy so will eat some soup and test in two hours
 
LordVauge said:
just did the two hour test 11.6 feel a bit headachy so will eat some soup and test in two hours
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If your level was 11.6mmol/l 2 hours after eating that is pretty so that might be why you are feeling headachy , you probably would like to see it somewhat lower before having anything more to eat. 2 hours between meals is quite short. I would try to drink some water to try to rehydrate yourself and flush some of the excess glucose out of your body.
What was your level before eating. You do not want more than 2-3mmol/l increase otherwise your meal was too carb heavy.
 
LordVauge said:
just did the two hour test 11.6 feel a bit headachy so will eat some soup and test in two hours
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What was your level before eating? As @Leadinglights says you don’t want more than a 2-3mmol/l increase 2 hours after eating
 
Leadinglights said:
If your level was 11.6mmol/l 2 hours after eating that is pretty so that might be why you are feeling headachy , you probably would like to see it somewhat lower before having anything more to eat. 2 hours between meals is quite short. I would try to drink some water to try to rehydrate yourself and flush some of the excess glucose out of your body.
What was your level before eating. You do not want more than 2-3mmol/l increase otherwise your meal was too carb heavy.
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pretty Low/High ?

it was 3.5 before 1 banana 1 teaspoon sugar in my coffee see above

i felt a bit heady and sleep deprived (my fault) before eating
 
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