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Hi all, after another test last week, my results have now come down from 93 at diagnosis, then down to 55, now yesterday got the results that they had come down to 37!!! Very pleased. Only downside is that my cholesterol has gone up and is now 6.3??? I had been sort of following the keto style diet and have lost 2 stone - but may have overdone the cream and cheese part!! Nurse said to cut down on these and will check levels again in 12 months. Any advice or tips would be helpful!!
I have been eating significantly increased amounts of cream and cheese and fatty meat since diagnosis nearly 3 years ago and cholesterol is still slowly decreasing. Last result was 4.5 from 5.2 at diagnosis. No statins. Don't follow keto but I am low carb....I average about 70g carbs a day. What was your cholesterol when you were diagnosed. Just wondering how much it has gone up and do you know the break down of the lipids? ie HDL, Trigs and LDL and how that has changed?
Oh!..... and many congratulations on your sensational HbA1c reduction and weight loss!
Hi all, after another test last week, my results have now come down from 93 at diagnosis, then down to 55, now yesterday got the results that they had come down to 37!!! Very pleased. Only downside is that my cholesterol has gone up and is now 6.3??? I had been sort of following the keto style diet and have lost 2 stone - but may have overdone the cream and cheese part!! Nurse said to cut down on these and will check levels again in 12 months. Any advice or tips would be helpful!!
12 months is a bit of a long time to leave it.
I always reckoned any change to anything took at least 2 weeks to make a difference to any blood test results, but my surgery was happy to test after three months when I told them what I was doing, such as eating low GI. or the Newcastle diet, or cutting out fats.
That way we knew if it was working or not, and didn't go in the wrong direction for nine months.
Congratulations on you hba1c, I sure with a bit of tweaking your cholesterol will get back into line!
Can't comment on that, there does seem to be a few it happens to that way, no doubt a few more can say the same, but as it has risen for the op on a keto diet, we need to concentrate on that?
Obviously down from 93 hba1c to 37 has smashed the prediabetic barrier, and a two stone weight loss means it's a great result apart from the final tweak.
I have been eating significantly increased amounts of cream and cheese and fatty meat since diagnosis nearly 3 years ago and cholesterol is still slowly decreasing. Last result was 4.5 from 5.2 at diagnosis. No statins. Don't follow keto but I am low carb....I average about 70g carbs a day. What was your cholesterol when you were diagnosed. Just wondering how much it has gone up and do you know the break down of the lipids? ie HDL, Trigs and LDL and how that has changed?
Oh!..... and many congratulations on your sensational HbA1c reduction and weight loss!
I have been eating significantly increased amounts of cream and cheese and fatty meat since diagnosis nearly 3 years ago and cholesterol is still slowly decreasing. Last result was 4.5 from 5.2 at diagnosis. No statins. Don't follow keto but I am low carb....I average about 70g carbs a day. What was your cholesterol when you were diagnosed. Just wondering how much it has gone up and do you know the break down of the lipids? ie HDL, Trigs and LDL and how that has changed?
Oh!..... and many congratulations on your sensational HbA1c reduction and weight loss!
Cholesterol is what carries fat around the bloodstream when it is moved out of cells and taken to be broken down, so the weightloss might be why there is more cholesterol in the blood.
I think my carb intake is probably only around 40 - 50 g per day - until weekends!! Still rarely have takeaways or anything like that, probably eat less on a weekend.
12 months is a bit of a long time to leave it.
I always reckoned any change to anything took at least 2 weeks to make a difference to any blood test results, but my surgery was happy to test after three months when I told them what I was doing, such as eating low GI. or the Newcastle diet, or cutting out fats.
That way we knew if it was working or not, and didn't go in the wrong direction for nine months.
Congratulations on you hba1c, I sure with a bit of tweaking your cholesterol will get back into line!
Have to see the diabetic nurse next week as I have only seen them once since diagnosis (end April)! Will try the low fat route again as I can maybe up my carbs without too much disruption (around 50 per day at moment!). She may ask for a test sooner than the 12 months. Mind you the nurse yesterday did say I wasn't probably due a heart attack just yet!! Thanks!!!
Cholesterol is what carries fat around the bloodstream when it is moved out of cells and taken to be broken down, so the weightloss might be why there is more cholesterol in the blood.
But you have said in many posts you are still losing weight as well aren't you?
And even so, it's still better to address it now, than simply hope it will decrease by itself again one day.
Without at least knowing the breakdown of the HDL level , the LDL level and the Triglyceride level it's impossible to know whether your Cholesterol is overall a little bit 'worse' or a little bit 'better'! LDL often goes up temporarily when in the weight loss phase so if it's just a 0.3 change then it's hardly a concern because you improvement in your diabetic status and your weight loss would more than compensate for a 0.3 rise in LDL (if indeed you actually have a rise in LDL).
Have to see the diabetic nurse next week as I have only seen them once since diagnosis (end April)! Will try the low fat route again as I can maybe up my carbs without too much disruption (around 50 per day at moment!). She may ask for a test sooner than the 12 months. Mind you the nurse yesterday did say I wasn't probably due a heart attack just yet!! Thanks!!!
Lucky you! My nurse has just told me that I have a risk factor of 14% in the next 10 years. The worst of it is that the main risk factor is my diabetes which is well controlled and I am fitter and slimmer (now normal BMI) and healthier and my cholesterol is lower than it was 3 years ago pre diagnosis. I can't change my diagnosis or push it into remission because I am Type 1, my other risk factors are my age and being female apparently. Never smoked and no genetic factors. Can't do anything about my age or sex! My cholesterol is 4.5 which would be considered a healthy level for a non diabetic, so the diabetes diagnosis which has caused me to get my act together and become fitter and healthier, allegedly makes me at higher risk than before. I am not convinced by this sort of generalized logic. I suspect that the vast number of diabetics who don't lose weight or moderate their diet or manage their diabetes effectively, cause that heavy risk weighting to impact all diabetics risk score.
But you have said in many posts you are still losing weight as well aren't you?
And even so, it's still better to address it now, than simply hope it will decrease by itself again one day.
Losing volume, and most likely from reducing fat - but it is at a very gentle trickle - and obviously not affecting me much as I only really notice it after setting clothes aside for 6 months.
Have to see the diabetic nurse next week as I have only seen them once since diagnosis (end April)! Will try the low fat route again as I can maybe up my carbs without too much disruption (around 50 per day at moment!). She may ask for a test sooner than the 12 months. Mind you the nurse yesterday did say I wasn't probably due a heart attack just yet!! Thanks!!!
Sure they can request repeat test sooner than 12 months, especially has cholesterol is high. Failing that you can get it done privately, look online for postal service companies.
Personally dont avoid fat but dont look for it either, like cheese full fat yogurt but cut fat of most meat where it is in excess. Eat fairly normal diet with healthy carbs & dont have high cholesterol, last result & times before are between 4.1 to 4.5, so take things with a pinch of salt when some say that carbs raise cholesterol levels, its complete nonsense mate.
Same happened to me with my test results on Christmas eve!
My LDL was 3.2 when diagnosed, and has gone up to 5.0
HDL was .8 and is now 1.2 which is OK
Trig was 2.0 and is now 1.3 which is also OK
Weight dropped from 13 to 11 stone. I'd been eating 5% fat Greek yogurt, no red meat, and making a few recipes (Maybe once a week) with double cream in them (Maybe a tablespoon per person.). Use olive oil to cook (And occasionally a knob of butter) and have eggs occasionally. A Daal we make has coconut milk in it, though. Have the odd teaspoon of peanut butter in pancakes or with yoghurt... I did start putting a teaspoon or two in a coffee once or twice a week but stopped doing that.
This triggered a call from the GP and an 'offer' of statins but it was my decision. We decided to have another blood test in 3 months and see what happens.
Same happened to me with my test results on Christmas eve!
My LDL was 3.2 when diagnosed, and has gone up to 5.0
HDL was .8 and is now 1.2 which is OK
Trig was 2.0 and is now 1.3 which is also OK
Weight dropped from 13 to 11 stone. I'd been eating 5% fat Greek yogurt, no red meat, and making a few recipes (Maybe once a week) with double cream in them (Maybe a tablespoon per person.). Use olive oil to cook (And occasionally a knob of butter) and have eggs occasionally. A Daal we make has coconut milk in it, though. Have the odd teaspoon of peanut butter in pancakes or with yoghurt... I did start putting a teaspoon or two in a coffee once or twice a week but stopped doing that.
This triggered a call from the GP and an 'offer' of statins but it was my decision. We decided to have another blood test in 3 months and see what happens.
I had a similar result to you 20 years ago. I lost four and a half stone on a low fat diet, but my cholesterol shot up to 7.8. I don't know if it was true, but I was told it was because most cholesterol is a function of the liver, not so much from the food. Because I had lost so much weight the cholesterol pumped out was supposedly more concentrated in the bloodstream. Like I said - I don't know the medical facts - but I have never got my cholesterol below 5.2. But as my ratio is good the GP is happy.
Just my opinion but I think the weight loss process may change the ratios and levels of the lipid profile. After all your body it burning it's own fat during this phase, so it may be that your levels will sort themselves out when you reach a weight maintenance phase.
The current thinking is that the cholesterol from the food we eat is not transferred into the blood stream but is manufactured by the body/liver. I currently eat a high proportion of saturated fats and there is no indication of that being a problem for my cholesterol levels, which have been slowly decreasing since diagnosis and low carb high fat way of eating. They are still slightly higher than the NICE guidelines for diabetics at 4.5 but if I wasn't diabetic that level would be considered fine and my diabetes is well controlled, so I am not taking statins purely because I am "diabetic". I am fit and a healthy weight which I think goes a long way to helping with these things.
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