Bewildered!

[Ali11782]

As long as you can cope with the carbs in the porridge then it is probably OK - but if you struggle to maintain normal blood glucose levels then the porridge would be the first 'usual suspect' to investigate.

Yes porridge seems to be OK with me as long as I keep my breakfast at 35g with a unit and half bolus.

 

[Drummer]

Yes porridge seems to be OK with me as long as I keep my breakfast at 35g with a unit and half bolus.

Do you need to get the timing right?
I am only asking out of curiosity but I find it fascinating to learn how people cope.

 

[Ali11782]

Do you need to get the timing right?
I am only asking out of curiosity but I find it fascinating to learn how people cope.

Well I am just going back to basics. Was diagnosed two years ago but since I had my little one I've been in denial. So yesterday was the first day I 'behaved' but my porridge never sends me high if I take it 5mins or so before, but I can't have my breakfast till like 8 to 9am because min I get out of bed I go high

 

[Drummer]

Well I am just going back to basics. Was diagnosed two years ago but since I had my little one I've been in denial. So yesterday was the first day I 'behaved' but my porridge never sends me high if I take it 5mins or so before, but I can't have my breakfast till like 8 to 9am because min I get out of bed I go high

Me too - but I go on rising until I eat.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

It's more the fact that in the absence of enough carbs, the body also can make its glucose from both fat and protein, which caused me to query it - not that the brain needs X amount of glucose at all!

In the absence of glucose, the body closes down a good many bits before it closes the brain - I've been that hypo when I could not speak, move or see but I could still hear and think so when my colleague speaking and listening to the 999 operator relayed 'Well I think she does have a denture - but her mouth and jaw appear to be completely set and I shouldn't think we'd be able to remove them for her' - I though 'Love you, Val! Thanks' Yes, we can get her into the recovery position, and two male colleagues co-ordinated doing that with me (whist another colleague, the g/f of one of them shrieked loudly 'Don't touch her T !' and my brain thought 'Up yours too!' - and T had ignored her anyway, assisted by our Managing Director the other side of me who told the (silly cow) woman to 'Do shut up!' whilst my brain thought 'I'm glad you're here!' and then the paramedic arrived bearing glucometer and told me who he was when my brain thought Thank God for that and that he was going to test my BG as he did it, told me it reported LO so he was going to set up a glucose drip into my arm and did so, and I now understand exactly why 'ambulance people' talk to their patients constantly even when they seem to be 'out of it'.

Fascinating! - but I don't recommend finding this out that way ....... bit OTT really all in all !

Not everyone is always the same
One of my site team had a hypo, he was fighting everyone, he remembered punching someone in the face, we were ducking and trying to restrain him and get some of his glucose tabs in, someone was sitting on him at one stage.
Someone phoned an ambulance, he recovered and self discharged.
The funniest bit was HR coming in afterwards as we were putting the desks back up, asking what happened.
"Nothing, just a normal day"

 

[Deleted member 21371]

It is one of those 'common knowledge' things.
If you think about it - making some glucose should not be more than the average liver can manage if required.
The easiest way to see how many carbs you can eat, and from what sources, is to use a glucose meter and check after eating. If your levels are up in the teens then changes need to be made.
I found that once my levels after eating were around 8 mmol/l they went on reducing even though I did not change my diet any further. Levels after meals fell to under 7 and gradually sank down in general.
I am fairly strict in having a maximum of 40 gm a day. My Hba1c seemed stuck at 42, eating 50 gm of carbs a day - so I thought fewer carbs will reduce it - so 40 gm a day, and it was exactly the same. The needle on the dial is stuck, but maybe one day it will show a change. I'm not holding my breath though.

I remember you saying you were stuck before.
Have you tried anything else, like fasting, to see it it goes lower?
Or exercise to drive your pulse rate up, and seeing if that has any effect.

 

[Leadinglights]

Not everyone is always the same
One of my site team had a hypo, he was fighting everyone, he remembered punching someone in the face, we were ducking and trying to restrain him and get some of his glucose tabs in, someone was sitting on him at one stage.
Someone phoned an ambulance, he recovered and self discharged.
The funniest bit was HR coming in afterwards as we were putting the desks back up, asking what happened.
"Nothing, just a normal day"

I think if you work with somebody all the time you recognise the symptoms of the early stage of a hypo. A colleague used to start to make jerky movements so that was a sure sigh but that could progress quite quickly into being completely unsteady and almost falling out of chair, they sometimes ignored or didn't notice those early signs.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

I think if you work with somebody all the time you recognise the symptoms of the early stage of a hypo. A colleague used to start to make jerky movements so that was a sure sigh but that could progress quite quickly into being completely unsteady and almost falling out of chair, they sometimes ignored or didn't notice those early signs.

True.
Punching people is a giveaway.
He was the classic gent normally.
And very old school.
Same food, same insulin, day in day out, just overran the timing.

 

[Drummer]

I remember you saying you were stuck before.
Have you tried anything else, like fasting, to see it it goes lower?
Or exercise to drive your pulse rate up, and seeing if that has any effect.

As I was getting Hba1c test at one a year, and non at all for some time, I don't think I could keep up a regime for an uncertain length of time just to see how Hba1c might change.
I see results for daily readings which would seem to indicate that I have normal blood glucose day to day, it is just the Hba1c which is not following the usual rules. When things get back to normal I expect I'll be able to get a test done and maybe act on that, but knowing that Hba1c can be affected by the rate at which blood cells are replaced makes me suspect that rather than high glucose levels.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

As I was getting Hba1c test at one a year, and non at all for some time, I don't think I could keep up a regime for an uncertain length of time just to see how Hba1c might change.
I see results for daily readings which would seem to indicate that I have normal blood glucose day to day, it is just the Hba1c which is not following the usual rules. When things get back to normal I expect I'll be able to get a test done and maybe act on that, but knowing that Hba1c can be affected by the rate at which blood cells are replaced makes me suspect that rather than high glucose levels.

Iron deficiency?
That's the first marker.
Do your bloods include that?

 

[Drummer]

No idea I'm afraid.
The GP surgery is not exactly ideal - very difficult to get any information, but I don't agree with their thoughts on how I should eat, so we have been in contention for some time. I think that my going into normal figures after stopping the tablets was the final straw for them.

 

[Deleted member 21371]

No idea I'm afraid.
The GP surgery is not exactly ideal - very difficult to get any information, but I don't agree with their thoughts on how I should eat, so we have been in contention for some time. I think that my going into normal figures after stopping the tablets was the final straw for them.

That's a shame.
My surgery was supportive.
They ran tests when I asked them.
Are there any others you can switch to?
There are good ones out there, honestly.