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GUESS THE CARBS IN THIS

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mum2westiesGill

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Can anyone roughly guess the carbs in this white bap?

I went for 60g of carbs from the carbs and cals app
 
I’d have said less than that - closer to 35-40g maybe, but I can’t see how big the bap is or if it’s a solid texture or light.
 
Exactly what you've just said - some baps are only 30g; some are more - without having a quick squeeze if not removing the 'lid' and seeing how it felt in my mouth when taking the first bite, I wouldn't know, so if it's from somewhere I might go again in the near future I'd take note of what my BG did after and if I did not like the results, have a different amount of insulin for the next one.
 
If it’s a big bap I tend to go 40-45 (a smaller roll I would do 35) as I know rolls tend to be higher carbs than the equivalent sliced bread and my daughter tends to deal with bread carbs fairly well so it’s better for her if I underestimate rather than overestimate.
 
45g would have been my guestimate.
 
Did you eat it at home? I’d have just weighed it.
 
Carbs and cals assessment was probably a bit too high then.... but I think the consensus of responses was that 60g carbs was too much.
 
rebrascora said:
Carbs and cals assessment was probably a bit too high then.... but I think the consensus of responses was that 60g carbs was too much.
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At least I will know for next time - maybe go for 35g
 
To be honest it didn't look dissimilar to the last roll you posted, although that one had cheese rather than ham in, so I'd have estimated the same carbs...about 35.
 
Guess 35g looking at pic, we like Warburton rolls which are slightly smaller at 26g.

Does look like morning roll to me, similar in size to scotch roll, looks tasty mind.
 
I have found super seeded rolls 16grm carb each they are delicious
 
mum2westiesGill said:
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Can anyone roughly guess the carbs in this white bap?

I went for 60g of carbs from the carbs and cals app
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60g? That seems very high.
I'd estimate something around 30g to 40g providing it's just meat and veg in the bun.
If it was my first time, I'd go for 30g and consider a 1 unit correction at the 3 hours mark if I was still above 9 mmol/L.

ETA. OK I'm a little late to the party. Must remember to read the entire thread before responding. 🙂
 
Just as an aside, and I'm not criticising anyone here but this is one of the reasons why I don't like "apps" which do your thinking for you.

As diabetics, we need to take that on that responsibility for ourselves or we risk becoming a hostage to other people's fortunes. You only need one sloppy programmer to fall asleep on the job (and I've spent many years working with them) and put in a wrong figure like that and you have a potentially disastrous hypo on your hands. Fortunately you were OK with this one @mum2westiesGill but that could have been really bad news.

I wonder if there's more that diabetes clinics can do to educate people face to face and give them tests at the clinic where people have to estimate carb contents or work it out from packaging. That IMO, would be a fantastic service once covid stops them closing everything down.
 
Inka said:
I totally agree @pm133 I don’t like bolus advisors for the same reason.
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I don’t really follow why this means you wouldn’t like bolus advisors. They’re just advisors, you have to be able to count the carbs accurately and make whatever adjustments the dose for exercise/weather/phase of the moon, but they stop mistakes in calculating the base point and keep track of insulin on board which is hard to do in your head.
 
Lucyr said:
I don’t really follow why this means you wouldn’t like bolus advisors. They’re just advisors, you have to be able to count the carbs accurately and make whatever adjustments the dose for exercise/weather/phase of the moon, but they stop mistakes in calculating the base point and keep track of insulin on board which is hard to do in your head.
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Because they don’t allow for the “exercise/weather/phase of the moon’ as you said. Also, some people follow them blindly, thinking that they must be giving the ‘right answer’ without understanding they’re fallible.

Also, as with the correction discussion, IOB isn’t that relevant for boluses.
 
Inka said:
Because they don’t allow for the “exercise/weather/phase of the moon’ as you said. Also, some people follow them blindly, thinking that they must be giving the ‘right answer’ without understanding they’re fallible.

Also, as with the correction discussion, IOB isn’t that relevant for boluses.
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IOB is definitely relevant for boluses. If before eating the sandwich your bg is say 5 with 3u IOB, you’re not going to then bolus for the full sandwich as the bolus advisor subtracts the 3u IOB from the calculation, so you’d reduce the chance of going low. If doing it in your head without the advisor, it is harder to keep track of IOB and to calculate how much to subtract.

You need make adjustments to the final dose yourself for the aspects that aren’t programmed into the advisor, just as you would without one.
 
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