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BG Correction Level

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mum2westiesGill

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I know that everyone is different but at what level do you correct at?
A few weeks ago my dsn said to correct if over 8mmol but last week she said she thinks I'm correcting too much so she has now said to just correct if my bg is over 12mmol - this seems a bit high to me

My correction factor is 1u for 2mmol
 
I think we all have very individual views on this as we are all different. If you’re unsure why don’t you check with your dsn ?
 
At the end of the day it’s YOUR diabetes, YOU are the one who has to deal with it day in, day out, so it’s up to you to decide what you are comfortable with.
How often are you testing and correcting? Just at mealtimes or in between as well? Are you doing loads of extra injections or just adding correction doses onto food boluses? Are you comfortable with the way you were doing things before? Did the DSN explain why she thought you were doing too many corrections?

We use a pump. The pump has a bolus wizard on it. So at mealtimes we input the BG level and the pump automatically adds or subtracts a correction amount if the BG is anywhere outside target range. Which means it would correct at levels as low as 7 or 8, the pump is capable of doing VERY tiny doses though! We also used to test at bedtime (first thing in the morning corresponds with breakfast anyway) and correct if necessary (I used to do it over 10 but that was my decision). We didn’t used to bother testing in between meals unless she was showing signs of being low or high. Nowadays we have sensors so always know what the blood sugars are doing, again corrections are always done automatically at mealtimes no matter how small, and then the sensor alerts are set to 14 so we correct then if necessary (don’t worry about how long ago was the last bolus because pump knows when it was and calculates the insulin on board and reduces the correction amount to allow for that). Daughter’s last hba1c was 51 a couple of weeks ago, apparently the best one they’d had that day in the clinic, and I’m beginning to think we can’t get it much lower than that without her being hypo half the time!

As I said somewhere else, if you try to get your numbers perfect all the time you probably won’t succeed and could end up getting a bit obsessive and never enjoying anything. But you also know that if you don’t take enough care then you could end up having nasty complications. Where you place yourself in between those extremes is entirely up to you, how much effort you put in/how fussy you are is entirely up to you, it’s your body and your life. So if you were happy correcting above 8, and weren’t doing loads of extra injections to achieve that, and didn’t think it was a massive inconvenience getting in the way of your daily life, and were getting good results, then carry on doing that. If only correcting above 12 makes things a bit easier and you don’t mind the wider variance of numbers then do that. However if you’re not comfortable only correcting above 12 then you don’t have to do what the DSN says, she’s only trying to help. How about meeting her in the middle and correct above 10? Your DSN shouldn’t just be telling you what to do, she should be able to explain why she thinks you should things a certain way, and she should listen to you if you aren’t happy with that, and you should be able to have a two-way discussion to decide how best to manage your diabetes. If my daughter’s DSN ever suggests anything which I’m not happy with I tell her why I’m not keen on the idea and she doesn’t push it, she’s not the one living with it every day!
 
I understood from your signature that you use mySugr, doesn’t that calculate the correction dose for you if you’ve input your ratios? I always calculate a correction , which can mean extra or less insulin depending on whether my bg is above or below the target range which is about 4.5-6.5 I think in mine.
 
At the end of the day it’s YOUR diabetes, YOU are the one who has to deal with it day in, day out, so it’s up to you to decide what you are comfortable with.
How often are you testing and correcting? Just at mealtimes or in between as well? Are you doing loads of extra injections or just adding correction doses onto food boluses? Are you comfortable with the way you were doing things before? Did the DSN explain why she thought you were doing too many corrections?

We use a pump. The pump has a bolus wizard on it. So at mealtimes we input the BG level and the pump automatically adds or subtracts a correction amount if the BG is anywhere outside target range. Which means it would correct at levels as low as 7 or 8, the pump is capable of doing VERY tiny doses though! We also used to test at bedtime (first thing in the morning corresponds with breakfast anyway) and correct if necessary (I used to do it over 10 but that was my decision). We didn’t used to bother testing in between meals unless she was showing signs of being low or high. Nowadays we have sensors so always know what the blood sugars are doing, again corrections are always done automatically at mealtimes no matter how small, and then the sensor alerts are set to 14 so we correct then if necessary (don’t worry about how long ago was the last bolus because pump knows when it was and calculates the insulin on board and reduces the correction amount to allow for that). Daughter’s last hba1c was 51 a couple of weeks ago, apparently the best one they’d had that day in the clinic, and I’m beginning to think we can’t get it much lower than that without her being hypo half the time!

As I said somewhere else, if you try to get your numbers perfect all the time you probably won’t succeed and could end up getting a bit obsessive and never enjoying anything. But you also know that if you don’t take enough care then you could end up having nasty complications. Where you place yourself in between those extremes is entirely up to you, how much effort you put in/how fussy you are is entirely up to you, it’s your body and your life. So if you were happy correcting above 8, and weren’t doing loads of extra injections to achieve that, and didn’t think it was a massive inconvenience getting in the way of your daily life, and were getting good results, then carry on doing that. If only correcting above 12 makes things a bit easier and you don’t mind the wider variance of numbers then do that. However if you’re not comfortable only correcting above 12 then you don’t have to do what the DSN says, she’s only trying to help. How about meeting her in the middle and correct above 10? Your DSN shouldn’t just be telling you what to do, she should be able to explain why she thinks you should things a certain way, and she should listen to you if you aren’t happy with that, and you should be able to have a two-way discussion to decide how best to manage your diabetes. If my daughter’s DSN ever suggests anything which I’m not happy with I tell her why I’m not keen on the idea and she doesn’t push it, she’s not the one living with it every day!
Fantastic advice ... it does depend on the individual and how you choose to manage your diabetes. My dsn is brilliant and is always there if I want her but just lets me get on with it . She listens and gives suggestions but she quietly gives me the confidence to manage my condition
 
I think correcting over 8 is far too aggressive.

But at the same time, I don‘t want to be spending much time in the teens, so maybe 12 is a little high.

Frustratingly, I don’t think it’s really possible to just have one fixed number. Because so much will depend on what you have done before... and what you are about to do next.

If I’ve just eaten something that I know hits my system fast and wasn't able to prebolus, then I might see a high reading, but know I have plenty of insulin on board to bring that down over the next few hours. Or if I see a moderately raised BG in the 10s, but know I am about to walk the dog, then I won‘t correct because I’ll risk a hypo.

Alternatively if I’ve been drifting along in the 9s for hours and I’m just about to go to bed, I might give a fraction of a unit to just nudge it down nearer to mid-range, knowing I have sensor alarms to wake me if it goes too low while I’m sleeping.

Every case is different!
 
I think correcting over 8 is far too aggressive.

But at the same time, I don‘t want to be spending much time in the teens, so maybe 12 is a little high.

Frustratingly, I don’t think it’s really possible to just have one fixed number. Because so much will depend on what you have done before... and what you are about to do next.

If I’ve just eaten something that I know hits my system fast and wasn't able to prebolus, then I might see a high reading, but know I have plenty of insulin on board to bring that down over the next few hours. Or if I see a moderately raised BG in the 10s, but know I am about to walk the dog, then I won‘t correct because I’ll risk a hypo.

Alternatively if I’ve been drifting along in the 9s for hours and I’m just about to go to bed, I might give a fraction of a unit to just nudge it down nearer to mid-range, knowing I have sensor alarms to wake me if it goes too low while I’m sleeping.

Every case is different!
I think this is where tracking and understanding insulin on board (iob) makes all the difference. If you aren’t able to track or interpret iob then you need a more cautious cut off for correcting.

Personally I correct at 8, but there’s a lot of conditions attached to that. In the morning before breakfast with a bg of 7.5? Yes I’ll add 1u to my breakfast dose to correct as for me in the morning that would bring me down to 5.5-6.0. But if I’m going for a walk or swimming after breakfast then no I won’t. If i have an 8 in the afternoon knowing I’ve done insulin within the last 4-5 hours, then I wouldn’t correct. However if I hadn’t had insulin in the last four hours and I was taking insulin for a snack, and my bgs had been generally behaving lately or if I’d been running high lately, or I knew I might have miscalculated something earlier then yes I’d add a correction.

I don’t mean to offend in this wording but when I was newly on insulin, or for someone like Gill who doesn’t seem to have confidence in understanding all these little things that can influence the decision, it’s easier and safer for a HCP to just give a higher cutoff level.
 
I don't like leaving it until my bg is 12mmol - I prefer over 10mmol
 
Over 10mmol sounds reasonable but like everything, it depends on the circumstances eg I wouldn’t correct a 10 if I was about to go out for a walk.
 
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