Haven't eaten since about 2am, my BG is 6.0 and 5.6. Why?

[Purple_Panda]

I'm a bit concerned by this as this seems quite high for fasting BG as this is effectively that, a fasting BG. I last ate a carton of soup at around 2am and that doesn't really push up the BG.

But lately I have been a bit bad with the diet: eating a lot of tofu sausages and burgers each day (i.e. microwaving the entire packet), binging on Gulyian no added sugar dark chocolate but taking the meds. Blood sugars all seemed in normal range.

I haven't taken my meds yet today I went to sleep at about 6am woke up after 12:30pm. Tested it, it was 6.0. Tried another finger it was 5.6.

Last couple of weeks eating these tofu sausages and the no added sugar chocolate and eating a lot of them although my weight hasn't gone up it's stayed the same.

Will I have done permanent damage? I already have background retinopathy. I'm trying hard to reverse everything but it's a struggle.

Should I just stop eating the tofu sausages and the no added sugar chocolate for a while or completely altogether?

 

[Kaylz]

Why are you concerned at such a level? It's a perfectly IN RANGE reading and many would kill for such a good reading at any point

I think your focusing too much on good levels and seeing them as bad for no reason

Retinopathy isn't only caused by high BG, I've had 2 eye related conditions, DMO and proliferative retinopathy with really good control but levels in the 5's aren't going to make it any worse, nor the 6's, "normal" people have BG's at this level
xx

 

[Purple_Panda]

Why are you concerned at such a level? It's a perfectly IN RANGE reading and many would kill for such a good reading at any point

I think your focusing too much on good levels and seeing them as bad for no reason

Retinopathy isn't only caused by high BG, I've had 2 eye related conditions, DMO and proliferative retinopathy with really good control but levels in the 5's aren't going to make it any worse, nor the 6's, "normal" people have BG's at this level
xx

Isn't a normal fasting BG meant to be below 5.5? I was getting excellent normal ranges up until recently and I do think the binging on the tofu sausages and the no added sugar chocolate has probably had an effect.

Even if it would drop back to normal later, I make the entire packet of those Tivall veggie frankfurters and eat those (about 10), or an entire pack of the burgers (about 4).

The Gulliyan chocolate has about four small bars a pack overally 31g carb but 0g of which is sugars.

Though yesterday I was having a massive headache all night long.

I also binged on an entire packet of those Covonia sugar free lozenges.

 

[Bruce Stephens]

Isn't a normal fasting BG meant to be below 5.5? I was getting excellent normal ranges up until recently and I do think the binging on the tofu sausages and the no added sugar chocolate has probably had an effect.

Our meters aren't accurate enough to distinguish a bit under 5.5 and 6.0 (let alone 5.6).

 

[ianf0ster]

Isn't a normal fasting BG meant to be below 5.5? I was getting excellent normal ranges up until recently and I do think the binging on the tofu sausages and the no added sugar chocolate has probably had an effect.

Even if it would drop back to normal later, I make the entire packet of those Tivall veggie frankfurters and eat those (about 10), or an entire pack of the burgers (about 4).

The Gulliyan chocolate has about four small bars a pack overally 31g carb but 0g of which is sugars.

Though yesterday I was having a massive headache all night long.

I also binged on an entire packet of those Covonia sugar free lozenges.

I have my T2 diabetes in remission ( HbA1C of 37 - so in the 'normal range'), but I know my fasting BG is still higher than most 'normals'. I rarely bother measuring it these days, but did so on Thursday morning out of interest - it was 6.8 and since I don't eat before midday, that can last all morning - it's just Dawn Phenomenon!
Because I'm eating Low Carb my meals hardly move my BG at all. Back when I was still eating breakfast I found that having 2 boiled eggs would actually reduce my BG (back then my fasting BG was more like 7.5 to 8.0).

 

[Sally71]

I wish my daughter could have readings that low every day! Relax, you’re doing brilliantly 🙂

 

[Ljc]

Don’t worry , those BGs are perfect fasting levels .
Our bodies need a constant supply of fuel so between meals ie when fasting our liver trickles out some stored glucose so our body can function normally.
It’s also why many of us wake up with higher levels than we went to bed with , dawn phenomenon
Or soon after getting up, foot hits the floor, it’s a throwback to the times when we had to go a hunting for out brekkie.

 

[NotPink]

Don’t worry , those BGs are perfect fasting levels .
Our bodies need a constant supply of fuel so between meals ie when fasting our liver trickles out some stored glucose so our body can function normally.
It’s also why many of us wake up with higher levels than we went to bed with , dawn phenomenon
Or soon after getting up, foot hits the floor, it’s a throwback to the times when we had to go a hunting for out brekkie.

I woke this morning to a 7.4 mmol. I try to keep levels to 5.00 to 6.00 mmol usually.
I had not eaten since the day before @ 4.00pm after consuming a plain double egg omelette. I was very hungry this morning too and I assumed my BG would be lower than that. It is so weird.
My husband is not apparently pre or diabetic...thin as a rake...and I measured his BG last night and it was 7.6mmol after a meal of carbs etc. Nothing makes much sense to me.

 

[Kaylz]

As I mentioned before, you seem to be eating a lot of sugar free products so just be wary of the effect they can have on your tummy, just relax as your stressing about nothing when stress can have an impact on levels xx

 

[Ljc]

I woke this morning to a 7.4 mmol. I try to keep levels to 5.00 to 6.00 mmol usually.
I had not eaten since the day before @ 4.00pm after consuming a plain double egg omelette. I was very hungry this morning too and I assumed my BG would be lower than that. It is so weird.
My husband is not apparently pre or diabetic...thin as a rake...and I measured his BG last night and it was 7.6mmol after a meal of carbs etc. Nothing makes much sense to aiming for too tight a control on your BG levels. 4.0 to 7.0 is a healthy range and you should expect it to be a little higher 2 hrs after eating.

It seems to me that you may be aiming for too tight a control on your levels .
4.0 to 7.0 is healthy range for fasting levels and before eating, two hours after having eaten they should be a bit higher, around 3 mmol higher than your ore meal levels is fine .

Please don’t be fooled by the decimal point , our meters are not that accurate, they are designed to be used in a variety of environments rather than in a laboratory. Imo the reading they give should look like this ie 5ish

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Sorry to read that you are distressed by your BG readings @Purple_Panda

I wonder if perhaps you are worrying, because you do not feel in control of your food choices and think you are eating ‘the wrong things’?

Not sure where you got the impression that waking BG had to be below 5, but actually many people with diabetes (especially those on medication like insulin) are advised to keep their waking BG above 5, because of the risk of undetected overnight hypos in people who wake in the 4s.

The 30g of carbs in Guylian chocolate would have had an upward impact on your BGs. Tofu sausages are probably quite low in total carbs (check the packet).

You are doing better than you think. Try to relax a bit. And try to avoid these binges if they are going to fill you with guilt and regret. If you choose to enjoy one of those bars of chocolate. Go for it. But make it a positive choice to eat one, not a ‘I have failed and now may as well eat the whole lot’ guilt trip.

 

[Ljc]

Sorry to read that you are distressed by your BG readings @Purple_Panda

I wonder if perhaps you are worrying, because you do not feel in control of your food choices and think you are eating ‘the wrong things’?

Not sure where you got the impression that waking BG had to be below 5, but actually many people with diabetes (especially those on medication like insulin) are advised to keep their waking BG above 5, because of the risk of undetected overnight hypos in people who wake in the 4s.

The 30g of carbs in Guylian chocolate would have had an upward impact on your BGs. Tofu sausages are probably quite low in total carbs (check the packet).

You are doing better than you think. Try to relax a bit. And try to avoid these binges if they are going to fill you with guilt and regret. If you choose to enjoy one of those bars of chocolate. Go for it. But make it a positive choice to eat one, not a ‘I have failed and now may as well eat the whole lot’ guilt trip.

What Mike said , esp the last paragraph.

We all fall off the wagon from time to time. The important thing is to haul yourself back up again and not beat yourself up for being human