Hello To All

[andrew 2021]

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Hello all. I feel for Wendy, I was diagnosed at low level (50 what ever that means) just over 2 years ago. At the time I was suffering very high stress levels. Had always been fit and ate healthy food ( never junk), No family history etc. I decided to eat more fruit and white meat, porridge for breakfast or Grapefruit.
Had a check-up yesterday and today am told my level is 80 ( whatever it mean) and the nurse wants to put me on some tablet. I am not happy as I am very averse to medications permenantly. I guess the increase is my own fault as during lockdown my fitness has gone down and I do comfort eat ( biscuits) still eat fruit and other health foods, little or no red meat. I do not want to take pills, however the Nurse has tried to persuade me, eventually agreeing to me going back in 3 months. I want to control it myself and intend to reduce sugar in tea, reduce biscuits ( that will be hard) continue to eat fruit with musilia and yogurt ( do like vanilla). Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. Should I take the pills?
Sorry if I am imposing on Wendy's thread.

 

[andrew 2021]

Just joined and have added to the thread started by Wendy, hope she is not offended.

If anyone is able to give an opinion on my questions I will be most grateful.
Andrew

 

[andrew 2021]

hi grovesy, not on medication at mo, Nurse would like me too. I want to control with diet and Nurse will review in 3 months. Am I being pigheaded by not accepting meds and just trying diet?

 

[trophywench]

@andrew 2021 - The fact that it is ALL carbohydrate in the diet - not solely the sugar content, which increases the blood glucose when a person has impaired glucose tolerance, seems to have entirely passed you by. Shedloads of carb in some fruits (eg bananas. grapes, oranges, mangoes, pineapple and less in some others) and also in any breakfast cereals including porridge oats. Biscuits do contain sugar of course, but also contain flour which is high carb - so is anything with flour in it - like bread, pastry, pasta, cakes. Root veg including potatoes has more carb than green leafy veg.

It is a matter of your working out for yourself* how much of exactly what your body can tolerate and what you need to cut down on, and which you'd be better to cut out completely, and to do this you'll be best advised to get a BG monitor to inform what adjustments you need to make.

*because no two people will react exactly the same. Sometimes in a similar way - but not exactly.

 

[WendyB61]

Hello all. I feel for Wendy, I was diagnosed at low level (50 what ever that means) just over 2 years ago. At the time I was suffering very high stress levels. Had always been fit and ate healthy food ( never junk), No family history etc. I decided to eat more fruit and white meat, porridge for breakfast or Grapefruit.
Had a check-up yesterday and today am told my level is 80 ( whatever it mean) and the nurse wants to put me on some tablet. I am not happy as I am very averse to medications permenantly. I guess the increase is my own fault as during lockdown my fitness has gone down and I do comfort eat ( biscuits) still eat fruit and other health foods, little or no red meat. I do not want to take pills, however the Nurse has tried to persuade me, eventually agreeing to me going back in 3 months. I want to control it myself and intend to reduce sugar in tea, reduce biscuits ( that will be hard) continue to eat fruit with musilia and yogurt ( do like vanilla). Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. Should I take the pills?
Sorry if I am imposing on Wendy's thread.

 

[WendyB61]

Andrew I had sugar in my coffee and would drink around 8 mugs a day, I had tried every sweetener going and hated all of them, I was told about sugarly by canderel it’s in a blue jar in supermarkets, I can’t tell the difference between that and sugar

 

[andrew 2021]

Thanks Trophywench and Wendy,

Wendy I could never take sacherin and have tried canderel purely by accident, found it better than sacherin but worse than sugar. The initial shock of diagnosis is hard to take when one has been physically fit and not over weight. I just want to avoid pills.

 

[Drummer]

Hello all. I feel for Wendy, I was diagnosed at low level (50 what ever that means) just over 2 years ago. At the time I was suffering very high stress levels. Had always been fit and ate healthy food ( never junk), No family history etc. I decided to eat more fruit and white meat, porridge for breakfast or Grapefruit.
Had a check-up yesterday and today am told my level is 80 ( whatever it mean) and the nurse wants to put me on some tablet. I am not happy as I am very averse to medications permenantly. I guess the increase is my own fault as during lockdown my fitness has gone down and I do comfort eat ( biscuits) still eat fruit and other health foods, little or no red meat. I do not want to take pills, however the Nurse has tried to persuade me, eventually agreeing to me going back in 3 months. I want to control it myself and intend to reduce sugar in tea, reduce biscuits ( that will be hard) continue to eat fruit with musilia and yogurt ( do like vanilla). Any other suggestions would be much appreciated. Should I take the pills?
Sorry if I am imposing on Wendy's thread.

Ah - I'm afraid that you might be making things difficult for yourself, as a type two diabetic can eat any meat, seafood, eggs cheese, dairy, as they are the basis of a low carb diet.
Fruit should be avoided except for berries, which are low carb.
Until you get normal numbers it would be wise to avoid eating grain and high carb foods such as potato, concentrate on salads and other low carb foods.

 

[andrew 2021]

Ah - I'm afraid that you might be making things difficult for yourself, as a type two diabetic can eat any meat, seafood, eggs cheese, dairy, as they are the basis of a low carb diet.
Fruit should be avoided except for berries, which are low carb.
Until you get normal numbers it would be wise to avoid eating grain and high carb foods such as potato, concentrate on salads and other low carb foods.

Hi, thanks all for your advice.
Does anyone have knowledge or experience of Barberine? UNderstand it is a Indian/Chinese natural spice claimed to reduce diabetes.

 

[Josh DUK]

Just joined and have added to the thread started by Wendy, hope she is not offended.

If anyone is able to give an opinion on my questions I will be most grateful.
Andrew

Hello @andrew 2021 ,

After looking at your recent response, I don't think she was offended.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Hello @andrew 2021, welcome to the forum

I’ve merged the posts which responded to your questions into this thread to keep everything in one place for you 🙂

As for berberine, I suspect like many ‘natural’ or ‘herbal’ products, their results are vastly overstated by those wanting to sell them to you. If they had the promised positive effects, then a pharmaceutical company would have taken it, isolated the compound involved, and produced a much more effective purified version.

You are much better off simply moderating your carbohydrate intake as part of a mixed, healthy and enjoyable eating plan that you can stick to long-term.