Beans on toast!

[Peatie58]

I feel exactly the same.
Because I was diagnosed with T1 first and then changed to T2, I still have test strips on prescription. (Soon to be taken away, maybe?) Without experiments, how can I know what to eat and how much to eat????
Beans on toast doesn't have much effect on me. Perhaps it's because I eat dry one without a lot of sauce...🙂

How long were you type 1 before they said you were type 2

 

[Peatie58]

Just been busy bloods 4.0 knew they were going low had beans on toast will retest in 2 hours still hungry brown bread and 57 beans ,which is something I never would have eaten, busy so fast food feel like I’ve never eaten so much rubbish since I’ve been on insulin 34 days I miss my puddings

 

[Peatie58]

Just been busy bloods 4.0 knew they were going low had beans on toast will retest in 2 hours still hungry brown bread and 57 beans ,which is something I never would have eaten, busy so fast food feel like I’ve never eaten so much rubbish since I’ve been on insulin 34 days I miss my puddings

Just done bloods 9.0 after 2 hours think that’s ok

 

[silentsquirrel]

How long were you type 1 before they said you were type 2

KayC's post was in 2010, and I am not aware that she has been on the forum in recent years, so I doubt if you will get a reply!

 

[Peatie58]

never looked at dates ,but I won’t be eating them for dinner again anytime soon just done another reading 3.6 start again so much to learn. Many thanks

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

never looked at dates ,but I won’t be eating them for dinner again anytime soon just done another reading 3.6 start again so much to learn. Many thanks

Sounds like you are finding it tricky in the early weeks @Peatie58.

I suspect your readings may have been influenced initially by the sugar in the sauce, (jumping from 4-9 is quite a leap) but then as the insulin continued to work carb count of the beans may have fooled you, because (depending on the individual) some of the carbs in pulses may not be absorbed.

Are you carb counting and varying your doses to match different meals?

 

[Peatie58]

Not doing any carb counting, just learning but had quite a lot of hypos spoke to nurse, now reducing insulin on 6 nova rapid 11 glargine took rapid down to 5 (after reading ) but was scared to go lower waiting to see doctor (37days) I had been ill for about 8 months thought it was my thyroid got taken into hospital, dka not that I knew what that was again learning so now praying I have type 2 so reducing insulin breakfast see how it goes thanks for replying

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Not doing any carb counting, just learning but had quite a lot of hypos spoke to nurse, now reducing insulin on 6 nova rapid 11 glargine took rapid down to 5 (after reading ) but was scared to go lower waiting to see doctor (37days) I had been ill for about 8 months thought it was my thyroid got taken into hospital, dka not that I knew what that was again learning so now praying I have type 2 so reducing insulin breakfast see how it goes thanks for replying

Sorry you’ve got such a wait to see your HCPs

It may be that your remaining islet cells have perked up a little with the support of the insulin you are injecting.

If you are worried about hypos, it might be helpful to begin to get your head around the relationship between carbs and insulin (and activity... and illnesss... and and and...).

Diabetes UK have some information to get you started here: https://www.diabetes.org.uk/guide-t...ts-of-carb-counting/learn-about-carb-counting

Or you could take this online education course from Bournemouth’s diabetes service called ‘Bertie’, which is very like the popular 5-day DAFNE course
http://www.bertieonline.org.uk/

 

[Peatie58]

Thx so much will look into Bertie, have so much to learn

 

[Bodegit674]

Try freezing your bread overnight then use when defrosted, freezing bread lowers Gl is 31 per cent lower,please google this before you do this to get all available facts.

 

[Drummer]

Try freezing your bread overnight then use when defrosted, freezing bread lowers Gl is 31 per cent lower,please google this before you do this to get all available facts.

Unfortunately this does absolutely nothing for my levels - I think all these 'more difficult to digest claims' simply encourage my gut to prove them wrong.
I do from time to time buy Livlife bread, but it is vary rare and since I got the waffle maker and can make 'chaffles' now. Try a bacon 'chaffy' and you might never even think about beans on toast again.

 

[Bodegit674]

Unfortunately this does absolutely nothing for my levels - I think all these 'more difficult to digest claims' simply encourage my gut to prove them wrong.
I do from time to time buy Livlife bread, but it is vary rare and since I got the waffle maker and can make 'chaffles' now. Try a bacon 'chaffy' and you might never even think about beans on toast again.

What is chaffles

 

[Drummer]

Waffles made from cheese and eggs, with a few minor additions, They can be used hot, to make a low carb bacon butty, or cold as sandwich wraps.
If you search online for chaffles you should get a considerable number of hits.

 

[rebrascora]

Gosh, reading through this thread from the beginning, the naivity of those early posts is quite shocking (10 years ago I know but still) .... all talking about sugar.... sugar in the beans, caramelized sugar in the granary bread .... it is like they are ignoring the elephant in the room in that the beans themselves are rich in carbs, the sauce is rich in carbs and the bread is rich in carbs.... Beans on toast is a very carb rich meal and not at all surprising that it spikes peoples BG levels!

 

[Ditto]

Plus Type 1s chatting along with Type 2s as if it was all the same ailment! We tend to self-segregate now I think when it comes to foodie advice. 🙂

 

[rebrascora]

Plus Type 1s chatting along with Type 2s as if it was all the same ailment! We tend to self-segregate now I think when it comes to foodie advice. 🙂

Yes, it didn't help with clarifying the situation at all did it. Interesting to see how the forum has morphed in the way it operates as well as the change in ideas about carbs, particularly for the likes of myself who is relatively new to diabetes and the forum... I am not being in any way critical and in fact I am sure that the sharing of information through the forum has resulted in much more knowledgeable approach to Type 2 diet and how to tailor it....
Makes you wonder how the advice we currently share will be perceived in another 10 years though!

 

[Paulbreen]

Half a can of hienz baked beans has 25.9g of carbs so not terrible bad 2 slices of granary bread will have 35-40g of carbs so combined it’s a pretty hefty carb meal in simplistic terms

 

[NotWorriedAtAll]

I was reading the early posts and my eyebrows were shooting up higher and higher!
Baked beans have a definite effect on my blood sugars and I know even half a slice of 'ordinary' bread sends my levels into the ten - twelve area! Both together and I dread to think where I'd be.

I am glad knowledge and experience has moved forwards since then - this forum has been massively helpful for me and it makes me very anxious to think of people not having good information to help them make the right decisions for their situations.

I'm still trying to keep to below 20g a day and probably hitting around 25 - 30 unless I am super strict.

That said - I do enjoy a couple of slices of toast and happily I can have them now since I started making my own fibre based yeast bread and they don't have much of an effect - maybe move my levels by around 1 - 1.5 depending on what I have with them and no effect at all if all I do is have them with butter.

I've been experimenting today with making keto-friendly candied citrus peel so I can make a keto-friendly Christmas cake. So far so good. It is a little bit bitter because of the pith but I think that will disappear when I add it into the cake mix.

I have another delivery of clementines arriving tomorrow from Spain and I am looking forward to making clementine cake and some clementine marmalade using stevia. Also getting some stevia powder as it turns out that is the secret to making keto chocolate that doesn't taste like poison. If that works I will make some chocolate covered almonds, ginger, strawberries and clementine segments for my Christmas treats.

 

[Veenorthants]

Waffles made from cheese and eggs, with a few minor additions, They can be used hot, to make a low carb bacon butty, or cold as sandwich wraps.
If you search online for chaffles you should get a considerable number of hits.

I have never heard of these, I need to go and buy a waffle maker 😛

 

[trophywench]

I must also do this, cos they sound really lovely to me, since we already have a waffle iron you just put straight on the gas but I gave up making em years since cos we were both eating far too much sweet stuff at the time!