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Am I eating enough

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Jodee

Jodee

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For body nutritional value? Do I need more carbs? Am I spacing it out right?

Food 8 May 2019
Breakfast
Soaked oats in water
2 dessert spoons of yoghurt
10 blueberries

1 slice of wholemeal brown toast
with light butter and sugar free marmalade

cup of tea

Lunch
3 dessert spoons of cottage cheese
with 4 grapes and sugar free jelly 1tsp
cracker with cheese +1 slice of salmon

small handful of walnuts

cup of tea

Mid afternoon
1 banana

Water throughout the day #

Dinner
Small Chicken thigh
Half plate of cabbage, courgette,
1 small Sweet Potato

1 choc biscuit

cup of tea

9pm
2 sugar free biscuits


Food 9 May 2019

Breakfast
Soaked oats in water
2 dessert spoons of yoghurt
10 blueberries

1 slice of wholemeal brown toast
with light butter +sugar free marmalade

cup of tea

Lunch
1 slice of wholemeal bread with
cream cheese, lettuce tomato
1 Pear

small handful of wallnuts

cup of tea

Mid afternoon
1 apple

Water throughout the day

Dinner
Small Chicken thigh
Half plate of salad with salad cheese
1 cream cracker
1 choc biscuit
cup of tea

9pm
a small Banana 1 suger free biscuit
 
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well that didn't work so well, I had 2 columns with 2 days food. Amended to have the 9: between days / columns.
 
Can you actually lose weight and keep control of your blood glucose eating so many high carb foods?
 
Drummer said:
Can you actually lose weight and keep control of your blood glucose eating so many high carb foods?
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Do you think I am eating so many high carb foods? That was 2 days food as explained above.

On the desmond course I attended, it was said to lose weight you need to keep carbs between 25 and 35 gram per meal (for women) for men it was between 35 and 45 gram per meal. Snack were no more than 15g . Its spacing the carb intake out that helps keep the blood glucose more stable, I understood. The portion size as well of course.

I have the Carbs and Calories counter book (Diabetes UK), which is very useful.

I have to think about my other health conditions too, bone health lung health etc. so I am trying to balance all three.

The choc biscuit is a naughty 🙂
 
High carb foods such as bread, crackers, oats, sweet potatoes, starchy and sugary fruits and eating four times a day?
Well - it wouldn't work for me.
I have two meals a day, no snacks and about 35gm of carbs in total.
 
yes but you don't eat them all at the same time that would be fatal. spaced out is the ticket.

My main concern is I take enough nutrients, vitamins and minerals in through the foods balance intake. I know I couldn't manage on 2 meals a day and no snacks, in fact I am pretty sure my blood glucose would be all over the place as things are at the moment.
 
I think you'd really need to speak with a nutritionist or dietitian or somebody with expertise to get a good answer to this.

Just for the calorie part of the question, I find this tool to be a useful guide on how much to eat versus exercise and weight targets.

Oops! Forgot the link:
https://www.niddk.nih.gov/bwp
 
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That was my point, constantly throughout your day you are eating high carb foods - which are going to raise your blood glucose levels.
Try substituting lower carb options with more vitamins and minerals - grains are so low in nutrients they are often fortified to try to make them more attractive.
I eat first thing in the morning and then again in the evening, allowing my body time to cope with the carbs I do eat and then to get into ketosis. I am three stone lighter than just before diagnosis - at least - I stopped weighing myself as the so called cholesterol lowering diet of 'healthy' carbs was making me gain weight. I was rather surprised when my clothes began falling off me.
 
Eddy Edson said:
I think you'd really need to speak with a nutritionist or dietitian or somebody with expertise to get a good answer to this.

Just for the calorie part of the question, I find this tool to be a useful guide on how much to eat versus exercise and weight targets.

Oops! Forgot the link:
https://www.niddk.nih.gov/bwp
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Thanks Eddy 🙂
 
Drummer said:
That was my point, constantly throughout your day you are eating high carb foods - which are going to raise your blood glucose levels.
Try substituting lower carb options with more vitamins and minerals - grains are so low in nutrients they are often fortified to try to make them more attractive.
I eat first thing in the morning and then again in the evening, allowing my body time to cope with the carbs I do eat and then to get into ketosis. I am three stone lighter than just before diagnosis - at least - I stopped weighing myself as the so called cholesterol lowering diet of 'healthy' carbs was making me gain weight. I was rather surprised when my clothes began falling off me.
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Glad your diet is working for you Drummer.
I do change the menu so with veg and protein with the main meal I may opt for brown rice or brown pasta, quinoa etc. not in excess but an acceptable portion.

I couldn't afford to lose 3 stone myself, 1 stone happy - 2 stone max. I find I need carbs for the energy to exercise or do anything physical, the balance of nutrients for me is the key including carbs low and in moderation as per the diabetic plate. I think everyones metabolism is different.

You might find this read of interest, but maybe not in your case referring to carbs:
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/why-we-need-to-eat-carbs/
 
Jodee said:
Glad your diet is working for you Drummer.
I do change the menu so with veg and protein with the main meal I may opt for brown rice or brown pasta, quinoa etc. not in excess but an acceptable portion.

I couldn't afford to lose 3 stone myself, 1 stone happy - 2 stone max. I find I need carbs for the energy to exercise or do anything physical, the balance of nutrients for me is the key including carbs low and in moderation as per the diabetic plate. I think everyones metabolism is different.

You might find this read of interest, but maybe not in your case referring to carbs:
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/healthy-weight/why-we-need-to-eat-carbs/
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I read the 'information' about carbs and laughed out loud - I'm afraid that it is just plain wrong about just about everything - but it has been the mantra for so long and those who tried to point out the truth were vilified and mocked - look at Dr Atkins, but it goes right back a hundred years before then.
My advice is to use low carb to return to normal blood glucose levels and Hba1c tests, and then you might find that you lose excess weight without any great effort. Using fats as fuel seems to provide a more reliable source of energy than carbs, and a low carb diet without such things as rice and other grains (which are 2/3rds starch) means that there is a wide range of delicious plants to include. My salads are far more nourishing in terms of vitamins and minerals than tiny servings of boiled up starches. They are also large, colourful, crunchy and sustaining.
 
Drummer said:
I read the 'information' about carbs and laughed out loud - I'm afraid that it is just plain wrong about just about everything - but it has been the mantra for so long and those who tried to point out the truth were vilified and mocked - look at Dr Atkins, but it goes right back a hundred years before then.
My advice is to use low carb to return to normal blood glucose levels and Hba1c tests, and then you might find that you lose excess weight without any great effort. Using fats as fuel seems to provide a more reliable source of energy than carbs, and a low carb diet without such things as rice and other grains (which are 2/3rds starch) means that there is a wide range of delicious plants to include. My salads are far more nourishing in terms of vitamins and minerals than tiny servings of boiled up starches. They are also large, colourful, crunchy and sustaining.
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You are forgetting Drummer, the diebetic plate is half vegetable or salads, not just starch grains . (Quarter plate protein, quarter plate carbs on the main meal )

I am actually doing low carb but my low carb is very much different than no carb of course. Or just carbs from vegetables.

I think you should start a Blog page and share all your meal recipe's (with images) for others to try if they wish. Walk the talk so to speak.

Looking forward to viewing that.
 
Ah - well I don't actually do anything to food that you could call a recipe - I eat a lot of thing exactly as they come.
I have two fridges to separate raw and cooked food, or food which is not cooked before eating.
Basically it is the same idea as the plate - except it is one quarter protein, one quarter empty (where the stodgy carb would be) and one half in a great big bowl so as to fit it all in.
My salads are - take a large bowl - no - a bigger one than that. Put in a handful of walnuts, several large spoons of coleslaw, cut up a tomato and a sweet pepper - red or yellow, dice a beetroot (the ones without vinegar, quarter a few radishes, slice up a couple of sticks of celery, open a bag of leafy salad and pour in a glug of olive oil and vinegar dressing, shake and add to the bowl. Look in the fridge to see if there is cooked meat, boiled eggs, cheese, or open a tin of tuna, salmon, or maybe boil up some frozen seafood - arrange on a plate and find a fork. Remember you didn't do the cucumber, slice and add several inches of cucumber to the salad. I always forget the cucumber.
I can eat that and then not feel hungry until dinner time, which is also simple not messed with foods.
 
Drummer said:
Ah - well I don't actually do anything to food that you could call a recipe - I eat a lot of thing exactly as they come.
I have two fridges to separate raw and cooked food, or food which is not cooked before eating.
Basically it is the same idea as the plate - except it is one quarter protein, one quarter empty (where the stodgy carb would be) and one half in a great big bowl so as to fit it all in.
My salads are - take a large bowl - no - a bigger one than that. Put in a handful of walnuts, several large spoons of coleslaw, cut up a tomato and a sweet pepper - red or yellow, dice a beetroot (the ones without vinegar, quarter a few radishes, slice up a couple of sticks of celery, open a bag of leafy salad and pour in a glug of olive oil and vinegar dressing, shake and add to the bowl. Look in the fridge to see if there is cooked meat, boiled eggs, cheese, or open a tin of tuna, salmon, or maybe boil up some frozen seafood - arrange on a plate and find a fork. Remember you didn't do the cucumber, slice and add several inches of cucumber to the salad. I always forget the cucumber.
I can eat that and then not feel hungry until dinner time, which is also simple not messed with foods.
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Sounds good, not unlike my own salads, except I would not have the coleslaw. and probably not as larger bowl as you might have. I use yoghurt for my salad dressing and may add some garlic and oil to the mix for a change 😛

Do you have that for breakfast and dinner, or do you just change the protein for each meal?
 
HOBIE said:
What did you say you did for a living Jodee ? 🙂
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o_O I actually didn't say. What do you do Hobie?

More to the point, any suggestions about my query - am I eating enough?

I am actually retired. 🙂
 
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So for dinner I am having,

cooked salmon filet (I may just have half will see) 🙂
1 medium sized new potato
Mixed leaf salad with cucumber, some salad cheese, a few walnuts and dressed with 3 teaspoons of live natural yoghurt 😛 😛 oh and quarter nectarine chopped and mixed in the salad 😛
 
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Jodee said:
Sounds good, not unlike my own salads, except I would not have the coleslaw. and probably not as larger bowl as you might have. I use yoghurt for my salad dressing and may add some garlic and oil to the mix for a change 😛

Do you have that for breakfast and dinner, or do you just change the protein for each meal?
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I'll eat salad maybe four or five times a week in the warm weather. If the morning was cold I'd be more likely to eat something cooked - mushrooms green sweet pepper, courgette aubergine, or a broth of veges and meat, and since I found Asda low carb protein bread which is under 8 percent cabs, kippers are an option - they taste too strong without bread. I do just vary the protein most of the time, with the option of spice, or herb or simple pepper to zing it up a bit.
 
Jodee said:
So for dinner I am having,

cooked salmon filet (I may just have half will see) 🙂
1 medium sized new potato
Mixed leaf salad with cucumber, some salad cheese, a few walnuts and dressed with 3 teaspoons of live natural yoghurt 😛 😛 oh and quarter nectarine chopped and mixed in the salad 😛
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Yum!
 
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