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Who has had their *second* jab?

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Robin said:
OH has just had his second AZ, he was due in the next few days anyway, but was called in today by the surgery and asked if he could report straight way, as they’d got some spare from this morning's clinic. Hope he doesn’t get any side effects this time, as we’ve booked a day out at a NT garden tomorrow. Mine is next week at the main football stadium, because that's where I had my first.
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might be lucky and have no side effects...
 
I'm having my second jab of the dodgy one next Friday. Mum's already had hers and is okay. 🙂
 
Had 2nd jab today.

Just an update, no side effects what so ever this time, blood sugars running a tad lower than normal but as it's my cars birthday (MOT) due on tues I decided to clean it out and polish it this morning. Both car and I are reeling from the shock 🙂
 
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Got mine next Friday too Jan I`ll meet up with you and take you for something nice after the mind boggles.o_O
 
Spozkins said:
Yeah I am too but not really because of the news just that I was already cynical with it being so new. I was having neuropathy type twinges right up my legs and pain in and behind one of my eyes after the oxford. If it had been just the flu effects I wouldn't have been so concerned. I'm feeling fine now but definitely going to have a good think about the second one. It's a bit rubbish that its needed to be rushed through so many tests as we cant really know long term effects for those that might have them in full light.

How are you feeling now? On the plus side I think some side effects are a positive in the fact that your immune system is doing something!
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I am sceptical of the long term effects...which they have no clue about. I decided to go thru with the 2nd as there was virtually no option for full coverage. What I also don't know is how long the protection lasts cos if they are saying a booster may be needed come Autumn then do we understand that we will run out of protection by then? We don't know much.
 
Had my 2nd jab this morning. Was so excited woke up at 4am. To celebrate, am now eating a slice of carrot cake with icing on top. Not a thought of carbs.
 
I had my 2nd AZ last Thursday. Only real side effect of 1st was a very sore arm, much worse and longer-lasting than any flu jab. Minor headache for a couple of hours on following day. No effect at all on BGs. Arm a bit sore this time, but much less than 1st, otherwise nothing!
 
My husband & I had our first jab on the 19th Feb we both had a headache and muscle pain, my husband had a sore arm for a week.
The second jab did not effect us at all it was Astra Zenica.
 
My main concern is how long does protection last after a covid19 jab?
I looked up some sources and according to medical research ... they don't know ... it may be 4 months...and is an individual thing at present...which is why they may introduce a booster in the Autumn to prevent another rise in infections over the winter months. Does anyone think 4 months is not long enough and how will we know if we are still protected?
 
trophywench said:
No - we had a phone call on Pete's mobile and being as it was our doctor's surgery that rang, she asked if I could make it too at the same time - yes please!

Texts with links sound as if you need to have your phone connected to the internet in order to click them. We don't normally connect or mobs to our home wifi, why would we?
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I don't use wi fi and sign off all online retail sales after using...I don't save passwords online. And finally I don't use tablets or phones to make sales on and keep contacts limited to family and a few friends, doctors and dentist. How mean am I?
 
NotPink said:
Does anyone think 4 months is not long enough and how will we know if we are still protected?
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As far as I can tell, experts would be very surprised if it was as short as 4 months. There's preliminary evidence that immunity from relatively minor infections lasts for (at least) 12 months. But you're right that we don't really know yet. My impression is that consensus is that a few years at least is likely.

I guess they'll be watching the data. Presuming that the virus keeps circulating at some levels they'll be looking to see whether vaccinated people increasingly become infected and sick. I presume the ONS will continue their antibody survey for a while, too (though antibodies aren't the whole story).
 
Bruce Stephens said:
As far as I can tell, experts would be very surprised if it was as short as 4 months. There's preliminary evidence that immunity from relatively minor infections lasts for (at least) 12 months. But you're right that we don't really know yet. My impression is that consensus is that a few years at least is likely.

I guess they'll be watching the data. Presuming that the virus keeps circulating at some levels they'll be looking to see whether vaccinated people increasingly become infected and sick. I presume the ONS will continue their antibody survey for a while, too (though antibodies aren't the whole story).
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I saw a Commons Committee last week, where the Doctors giving Evidence said that so far the effects seem to confer protection for at least 6 months. Though the research is till on going.
 
An antibody survey is only of relative use when assessing herd immunity, the immune system is far more complex than just antibodies. You are, for instance, very probably immune to measles, though I very much doubt you will have measles antibodies cluttering up your bloodstream. That also applies to just about every childhood illness.

The assessment of how long Covid immunity lasts is therefore an informed guess. Informed by how long other coronavirus immunity lasts- they are a cause of around 20% of common colds. That is at least a year, possibly two to a particular coronavirus. Covid-19 has no particular difference from other coronaviruses, other than currently we haven’t learned to live with it as anything other than a minor inconvenience.

So taking lower limits, the repeat immunisation schedule should be less than 12 months ideally, or 12 months if you want to put a possibly slightly leaky lid on it, though such risks would be low.

That informed guess might be wrong, of course, but we would find out soon enough. Indeed, we may find out before any decision is made, while the virus is still out and about.
 
There is a minefield of info on vaccination immunity out there. The durability of vaccines is not well understood.
Fading protection can go unnoticed re MMR and other childhood immunisation as they eliminate transmission of the microbes it protects against.
Researchers are ramping up efforts to understand why some vaccines protect for weeks and some for life.
In 1957 they were making vaccinations without any deep knowledge of immunology apparently. (also in 2020/21 it seems.
Interesting subject.
 
Had my jab and had a couple of rotten days and my bloods are
stuck at 7 to around 7.5 I haven't had a 6 reading for a week now
hope it adjusts any idea's people x
 
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