When does Type2 Become Type 1 ?

[wakman]

Does anyone have any information or answers on this.

Thanks

 

[insulinaddict09]

Does anyone have any information or answers on this.

Thanks

YES.... IT DOESN'T , TYPE 1 IS TYPE 1 AND TYPE 2 IS TYPE 2 !!!! THEY DO NOT CHANGE , THEY ARE DIFFERENT .

 

[Steff]

yes like addict said they dont change , i have seen/heard that they is this new diagnosis now where you can be in between whatever that means i aint a clue

 

[Tezzz]

If your body produces no insulin you are type 1. If it does you are type 2.

I guess if you are type 2 and your pancreas packs in you become type 1. This happened to Simon at work.

 

[Northerner]

There are many types of diabetes. There's a slow-onset version called LADA (Latent Autoimmune Diabetes in Adults) where pancreas function declines over a period of time - possibly years - before finally no insulin is produced. At that point you are essentially a Type 1. This is what they think happened in my case and several others here - it's also called Type 1.5 sometimes.

There can be confusion at diagnosis as to what type a person has, especially if they don't fit the normal criteria. So, Type 1 is associated with children and young people (it used to be known as Juvenile Diabetes). Type 2 is more associated with adults (over 40's). The first thought then is that, if you're over 40 then it's probably Type 2. There is a test that they can do, called the C-peptide test which will show if any insulin is being produced - if not, you're Type 1.

Simply put, Type 1 is no insulin, Type 2 is insulin resistance - you might be throwing out bucketloads of the stuff but your body can't use it properly.

Type 2 may end up injecting insulin as the strain of producing it becomes too great after time, but this doesn't mean they become Type 1. At the end of the day, treatment may be different, but we all have diabetes, so all have to take extra care to look after ourselves!🙂

 

[mikep1979]

as far as i know you cant change from type 1 to type 2. if you go onto insulin as a type 2 your still type 2. i may be wrong on this.

 

[wakman]

sorry guys I might not have explained myself.

I have type 2 and my questions are:

Is it inevitable that it will progress to type 1

And if so at what point does 2 become 1 ?

Or am i missing the point completly and 2 would never become one.

Now I think i have confused myself.

 

[mikep1979]

i think what you mean is will you have to go onto insulin???? if thats what you mean then you will still be type 2 it just means like northerner said your body cant cope with the insulin you are already producing (metformin is used to help your body use the insulin it produces as type 2's dont use the insulin they produce correctly).

hope this helps

mike

 

[Northerner]

sorry guys I might not have explained myself.

I have type 2 and my questions are:

Is it inevitable that it will progress to type 1

And if so at what point does 2 become 1 ?

Or am i missing the point completly and 2 would never become one.

Now I think i have confused myself.

There is no 'progress to Type 1' as such. If you have high blood sugars because you are insulin resistant then that's how you are made - even if you end up injecting insulin you will still have insulin resistance and need to help things along with diet, exercise and possible other medications so that your body will start to become less resistant. Some people (Type 2's) can get by for many years just by modifying their diet and keeping active, so although it can progress to requiring insulin it's not inevitable (I don't think!). Everyone is different, as you will discover the more you read the posts here!🙂

 

[mikep1979]

it certainly isnt a given that you will progress to insulin. my oh's grandad had type 2 from the age of 41 and he never moved to insulin and only needed metformin from the age of 65 (24 years with diet control). he live to the ripe old age of 83 when he died last year.

 

[insulinaddict09]

sorry guys I might not have explained myself.

I have type 2 and my questions are:

Is it inevitable that it will progress to type 1

And if so at what point does 2 become 1 ?

Or am i missing the point completly and 2 would never become one.

Now I think i have confused myself.

I think I see where you are coming from ... right if you are type 2 then you produce some Insulin but cant use it properly .. hence high glucose levels. Some type 2's go on to insulin but are still type 2 . Type 1's do not produce any Insulin and HAVE to have Insulin in order to live. If you are Type 2 it does not mean you will go on to Insulin , you may be able to control it with diet exersise and /or medication. If you are Type 1 you will always have to take insulin.

 

[wakman]

Thanks for that Folks OK some more questions for you.

I am 39 diagnosed March last year. Docs put me on Gliclazide 80mg x2 everything was Honky Dory with my readings about 5.3 is but recently when testing I have had high results.

about and month ago i had these reading 14 at 9am 12 at 1pm and 9 at 18:00.

Concerned about the result went to the docs and she said that its because over the last year i have put on a stone.

Does anyone know if putting on a stone can cause readings like this.

By the way i was 14.9 when i was diagnosed and last month was 15.9

your comments would be appreciated

 

[mikep1979]

with type 2's weight is an issue, but as i am not an expert on it i wouldnt like to say this is the case for the increased levels. i would certainly heed what the doctor has told you and see if shedding a few pounds lowers the levels at all.

 

[insulinaddict09]

Thanks for that Folks OK some more questions for you.

I am 39 diagnosed March last year. Docs put me on Gliclazide 80mg x2 everything was Honky Dory with my readings about 5.3 is but recently when testing I have had high results.

about and month ago i had these reading 14 at 9am 12 at 1pm and 9 at 18:00.

Concerned about the result went to the docs and she said that its because over the last year i have put on a stone.

Does anyone know if putting on a stone can cause readings like this.

By the way i was 14.9 when i was diagnosed and last month was 15.9

your comments would be appreciated

Right whether you are type 1 or type 2 weight will effect the way your body can use Insulin , more weight ... less efficient at using insulin etc, plus if you weight less and are more active it does help to lower sugar levels.

 

[wakman]

Thank you all for your comments.

Thats put my mind at rest need to loose some more weight and get my bum moving not easy to do.

But i now see the importance of doing so.

 

[insulinaddict09]

Thank you all for your comments.

Thats put my mind at rest need to loose some more weight and get my bum moving not easy to do.

But i now see the importance of doing so.

Yes it is important to keep active especially when you are diabetic 🙂🙂

 

[Vanessa]

I am 39 diagnosed March last year. Docs put me on Gliclazide 80mg x2 everything was Honky Dory with my readings about 5.3 is but recently when testing I have had high results.

Just to add, gliclazide is "weight positive" - ie it contributes to weight gain so some of your added stone may be down to the meds. My GP also advised me that it would be more difficult to shift the weight off on gliclazide too so be prepared for slower results than you might otherwise anticipate

 

[aymes]

sorry guys I might not have explained myself.

I have type 2 and my questions are:

Is it inevitable that it will progress to type 1

And if so at what point does 2 become 1 ?

Or am i missing the point completly and 2 would never become one.

Now I think i have confused myself.

Type 2 cannot become type 1, and vice versa (despite what friend of the forum Halle Berry may say!). Type 1 is auto immune and characterised by a destruction of insulin prodcuing cell causing a total absence of. Type 2 is a resistance to insulin, or not enough insulin being produced. Type 2 is generally though of as progressive (although the rate of this varies) so it may develop to an effective absence of insulin, in which situation it is likely that insulin injections would be required, but although injections are associated as being a type 1 treatment it doesn't mean that the type of diabetes has changed. Even though the term type 1 and type 2 are meant cause less confusion than the old insulin dependant and non insulin dependant terms there is still plenty of opportunity for confusion, especially when you factor in other types of diabetes such as LADA....!

Does anyone know if putting on a stone can cause readings like this.

By the way i was 14.9 when i was diagnosed and last month was 15.9

your comments would be appreciated

there could be a number of different causes but weight could be one of them as the higher your weight the more insulin you need and the more resistant to insulin you are likely to be.

 

[wakman]

Just to add, gliclazide is "weight positive" - ie it contributes to weight gain so some of your added stone may be down to the meds. My GP also advised me that it would be more difficult to shift the weight off on gliclazide too so be prepared for slower results than you might otherwise anticipate

Thanks for that info. I have lost 1/2 a stone in two weeks

 

[Lorraine]

sorry guys I might not have explained myself.

I have type 2 and my questions are:

Is it inevitable that it will progress to type 1

And if so at what point does 2 become 1 ?

Or am i missing the point completly and 2 would never become one.

Now I think i have confused myself.

Is this a Spice Girls song you are quoting from?😉

Actually its interesting because I was told straight away that I had type 1 but how did the GP know that?