Vulnerable list

[acko17]

Is type 2 on the vulnerable list ? If yes how do you register ?

 

[Sally71]

You don’t register, your GP will get in touch with you if he thinks you are vulnerable or if he wants you to do anything.

 

[grovesy]

People with just Type 2 Diabetes and no other conditions are not classed as vulnerable.

 

[Inamuddle]

I think the confusion about this has been there since the beginning, with the use of the word vunerable. Initially anyone over 65 andor with a medical condition such as asthma, diabetes, heart problems, obese etc was labelled vunerable. Then they classed some people as "extreemly vunerable". Some people with diabetes are in the extreemly vunerable group, for which there is a list. If your gp put you in this group you received a letter (hopefully) and got support and priority shopping spots etc. Most people with type 2 are not in this group. Hope this helps.

 

[MarkGeordie]

I think you more than likely would of heard by now.

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

Welcome to the forum @acko17

’normal’ diabetes, of any type is not one of the conditions that classifies people as clinically extremely vulnerable.

That is reserved for people who:

1. Have one or more of conditions listed below, or
2. Your clinician or GP has added you to the Shielded Patient List because, based on their clinical judgement, they deem to you be at higher risk of serious illness if you catch the virus.

If you do not fall into any of these categories, and have not been contacted to inform you that you are on the Shielded Patient List, follow the general staying alert and safeguidance for the rest of the population.

If you think there are good clinical reasons why you should be added to the Shielded Patient List, discuss your concerns with your GP or hospital clinician.

People with the following conditions are automatically deemed clinically extremely vulnerable:

• solid organ transplant recipients
• people with specific cancers:
  • people with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy
  • people with lung cancer who are undergoing radical radiotherapy
  • people with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment
  • people having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer
  • people having other targeted cancer treatments that can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors
  • people who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs
• people with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD)
• people with rare diseases that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as severe combined immunodeficiency (SCID), homozygous sickle cell disease)
• people on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection
• problems with your spleen, e.g. splenectomy (having your spleen removed)
• adults with Down’s syndrome
• adults on dialysis or with chronic kidney disease (stage 5)
• women who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired
• other people who have also been classed as clinically extremely vulnerable, based on clinical judgement and an assessment of their needs. GPs and hospital clinicians have been provided with guidance to support these decisions
  

COVID-19: guidance for people whose immune system means they are at higher risk

Guidance for people aged 12 and over whose immune system means they are at higher risk of serious illness if they become infected with COVID-19.

www.gov.uk

 

[Steve_H]

I'll state as I have stated before, why aren't diabetes with a 4.5 time likely worse outcome, on this list? Diabetes UK said at the beginning of all this in March that they were tackling the government to get diabetics added to the extremely vulnerable group. Can someone from Diabetes UK answer why this hasn't been done. I have been lucky and despite having to work in a large NHS trust and having colleagues catch Covid, I have escaped so far.

 

[Robin]

I'll state as I have stated before, why aren't diabetes with a 4.5 time likely worse outcome, on this list? Diabetes UK said at the beginning of all this in March that they were tackling the government to get diabetics added to the extremely vulnerable group. Can someone from Diabetes UK answer why this hasn't been done. I have been lucky and despite having to work in a large NHS trust and having colleagues catch Covid, I have escaped so far.

I don’t feel particularly at risk from my well controlled diabetes, the stats show that I'm much more vulnerable on grounds of age. I'm 65 in a couple of weeks time, and that puts me in a higher priority category for the vaccine, than being under 65 with diabetes.

 

[barrym]

FWIW I spoke to a gp at my practice in March and they said one key factor for inclusion is HbA1c. So good control is no priority, bad control you get bumped up the list.

 

[Pine Marten]

I don’t feel particularly at risk from my well controlled diabetes, the stats show that I'm much more vulnerable on grounds of age. I'm 65 in a couple of weeks time, and that puts me in a higher priority category for the vaccine, than being under 65 with diabetes.

I agree - I will be 71 in February, and Mr Marten will be 72 in March, so we're on the list through age alone. Like Robin my D is well-controlled, and Mr Marten is just teetering on the edge of a reading of 42-43 (his late mother had, and his brother has type 2, so he gets tested fairly regularly).

 

[everydayupsanddowns]

I'll state as I have stated before, why aren't diabetes with a 4.5 time likely worse outcome, on this list? Diabetes UK said at the beginning of all this in March that they were tackling the government to get diabetics added to the extremely vulnerable group. Can someone from Diabetes UK answer why this hasn't been done. I have been lucky and despite having to work in a large NHS trust and having colleagues catch Covid, I have escaped so far.

The early paper that suggested the increased risk for T1s was pretty clear that age remained a significant factor. Yes T1 does add risk (with any serious illness), but Jonathan Valabjhi pointed out in a TV interview that in the data the risk of death to someone with T1 in their 40s was very similar to a person without T1, and that there had at that time been no covid-related deaths in people with T1 younger than 20.

I think the average age of those with T1 who had died in the data was 72. So you also have to factor in the sort of diabetes management options this older T1 cohort would have had access to for most of their lives, and the impact that might have had on their bodies, even if no complications had been formally diagnosed.

 

[trophywench]

Oh how comforting - NOT - said the 70yrs 8/5months old T1.