U.S. disease expert recommending goggles as well as masks to prevent spread of SarsCoV2

Anitram

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Yet the Netherlands' top scientists are now saying there's no solid evidence that even face coverings are any good. Seems even the 'experts' can't agree.

Martin
 

Docb

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Always the same Martin when you are talking about marginal stuff.

Biggest problem I have with all this talk about masks is that it is a diversion from the important things that would have real benefit, principally an effective tracing and isolation system.
 

mikeyB

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An effective trace and isolation scheme is currently running in Scotland. A recent small outbreak was noted in a call centre. Within a day, info the public health workers had obtained led to two restaurants the Covid victims had visited. That led to testing the other customers who had been present, and that led to another small outbreak in Glasgow which was rapidly tied down.

All the victims in this case suffered only minor symptoms. There has been no death from Covid in Scotland for 28 days (and counting).

As you say, @Docb, an effective trace and isolation system is important.
 

Eddy Edson

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An effective trace and isolation scheme is currently running in Scotland. A recent small outbreak was noted in a call centre. Within a day, info the public health workers had obtained led to two restaurants the Covid victims had visited. That led to testing the other customers who had been present, and that led to another small outbreak in Glasgow which was rapidly tied down.

All the victims in this case suffered only minor symptoms. There has been no death from Covid in Scotland for 28 days (and counting).

As you say, @Docb, an effective trace and isolation system is important.
That's why the situation in Victoria has me disgusted & frustrated. Everywhere else in Oz has been like that, pretty much - little outbreaks efficiently traced and handled - but Vic always seemed slower at it.

Then they had one leak from a quarantine hotel which got into multi-generational extended family settings and they just absolutely failed to trace and isolate properly.

Now it's out of control and they've had to go all Wuhan from tonight to try to rein it in - curfews, everything shut, one person per household per day can go shopping etc etc. Just an abject failure of the health bureaucracy, explainable if it happened in March, inexcusable now. And the rest of the country scrambling to mop up virus spills coming over the state borders.

P*ssed off! Nothing to do with the usual facile political etc narrative - the most left-wing state govt, hardest and longest lock-down during the initial wave, premier gets up every day in front of the press for 90 minutes to field questions and looks like he hasn't had any sleep for about a month (which might be a hint as to the root problem - he reminds me too much of too many failing "hero" start-up CEO's who have to be in charge of everything, but can't be.)

Operationally, it's mainly a failure to trace and isolate quickly and efficiently, which just shouldn't have happened.
 
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