Type 1 diabetes - severe head pain, loss of balance, can anyone resonate?

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Hello! I’m new to the forum and I’m hoping some of you may have some suggestions for me, this is a long post so please bear with me and I appreciate your time reading it. My partner is type 1 diabetic - he’s 35. He’s had diabetes 4/5 years now. A little over two weeks ago he developed a severe headache which has got worse over time - he describes it as unbearable (like his brain is swelling and he can’t stand light) he’s also loosing his balance, feels very sick and eating very little because of this. He’s on cocodomol but it doesnt touch the pain. We’ve been in and out of a&e, and he has an MRI scan on Thursday. About 3 1/2 years ago a similar thing happened - head pain, nausea, loss of hair, loss of balance and he ultimately lost his mobility and speech completely. This was regained, but when he was discharged he had a brain seizure and he was induced into a coma. He recovered slowly. His blood readings are presently high - even though he’s hardly eating. His management generally isn’t great (I’m working on this with him and hope to pick up some tips here!) it’s been quite a desperate time, and I’m not completely convinced that these symptoms are not unrelated to the diabetes. He’s seen lots of neuro specialists (3 1/2 years ago and likely to start again) I wondered if anyone had similar experience or has any thoughts?
 
I wondered if anyone had similar experience or has any thoughts?
In my case loss of balance (and severe headache) developed quite slowly (over months) and was really obvious once I had a CT scan (MRI also showed it clearly). It was a benign brain tumour (cerebellar haemangioblastoma) which (once it was seen) was easily removed surgically. I didn't have some of the other symptoms so I wouldn't want to suggest it's at all likely that he has the same thing, but obviously some kind of problem with the brain seems likely. Odd that the neurologists don't seem to have identified a problem. I hope the MRI on Thursday shows something.

(It's possible for diabetes to mess things up: serious hypos (usually overnight) can cause permanent brain damage resulting in lots of symptoms (including balance problems) and high blood glucose can cause neuropathy which I imagine might result in headaches. Neither of those seems likely in just a few years in someone relatively young (with current insulin treatments). On the other hand, what do I know?)
 
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Have migraines been ruled out?
Severe headaches, with nausea and not being able to stand the light all fit the bill. I used to have at least one a month where I had to lie in bed with the curtains drawn and a cool damp cloth over my eyes and forehead to give me complete darkness and a sick bowl to hand because of the nausea and vomiting and even diarrhoea too. They stopped when I changed my diet to low carb and I had been having them for well over 20 years. It is one of the reasons why I stick with low carb, even though I am type 1.
 
Has he done a covid test? My symptoms were a headache that didn’t respond to painkillers, loss of balance and loss of appetite/nausea. I also had a high pulse when moving. My symptoms lasted for 5 weeks.

For balance and nausea stemetil is helpful (it’s a sort of antihistamine but is essentially a seasickness remedy) it’s prescription only.
 
In my case loss of balance (and severe headache) developed quite slowly (over months) and was really obvious once I had a CT scan (MRI also showed it clearly). It was a benign brain tumour (cerebellar haemangioblastoma) which (once it was seen) was easily removed surgically. I didn't have some of the other symptoms so I wouldn't want to suggest it's at all likely that he has the same thing, but obviously some kind of problem with the brain seems likely. Odd that the neurologists don't seem to have identified a problem. I hope the MRI on Thursday shows something.

(It's possible for diabetes to mess things up: serious hypos (usually overnight) can cause permanent brain damage resulting in lots of symptoms (including balance problems) and high blood glucose can cause neuropathy which I imagine might result in headaches. Neither of those seems likely in just a few years in someone relatively young (with current insulin treatments). On the other hand, what do I know?)
Hello! Thank you so much for taking the time to reply, it is odd that the experts don’t know what’s wrong - it’s a guessing game with what medication or treatment will work. Quite stressful… he doesn’t manage his diabetes particular well in my view, his diet is appalling!!! Hopefully the MRI will give us some answers, his CT scan was clear as were bloods! Thank u for sharing your experience it’s much appreciated, and also to be aware of potential links with the hypos too!
 
Have migraines been ruled out?
Severe headaches, with nausea and not being able to stand the light all fit the bill. I used to have at least one a month where I had to lie in bed with the curtains drawn and a cool damp cloth over my eyes and forehead to give me complete darkness and a sick bowl to hand because of the nausea and vomiting and even diarrhoea too. They stopped when I changed my diet to low carb and I had been having them for well over 20 years. It is one of the reasons why I stick with low carb, even though I am type 1.
Thank you for reply! His diet is particularly poor - I eat healthily (I would thrive in a low carb diet!!!) but he goes for easy/processed options and fast food (I know….!) when he is better I will try working on him some more to get him to treat his food intake seriously. It has been suggested that it’s a migraine, his history however suggests it’s more than that. I guess we will know a little more after the MRI scan! Thank u for sharing your experience - and also to appreciate how long a migraine can last! I’m glad you have managed to find a way of managing those symptoms 🙂
 
Has he done a covid test? My symptoms were a headache that didn’t respond to painkillers, loss of balance and loss of appetite/nausea. I also had a high pulse when moving. My symptoms lasted for 5 weeks.

For balance and nausea stemetil is helpful (it’s a sort of antihistamine but is essentially a seasickness remedy) it’s prescription only.
Hello! Thank you for you your reply! I will ask him to discuss stemeril with his gp. we did do a covid test just incase, but that was clear… I was hoping it would be covid!! His bloods are clear too so no sign of infection generally. Hopefully we will know more when he has further tests but it’s been really good to reach out on here - not being diabetic myself there is so much I don’t know and I’m keen to learn 🙂
 
Have migraines been ruled out?
Severe headaches, with nausea and not being able to stand the light all fit the bill. I used to have at least one a month where I had to lie in bed with the curtains drawn and a cool damp cloth over my eyes and forehead to give me complete darkness and a sick bowl to hand because of the nausea and vomiting and even diarrhoea too. They stopped when I changed my diet to low carb and I had been having them for well over 20 years. It is one of the reasons why I stick with low carb, even though I am type 1.
I was also thinking migraine but the hair loss doesn't really fit with that.

In my experience, people very often underestimate the seriousness of a 'real' migraine and dismiss them as just a headache. They are anything but a head-ache. A full blown, every symptom going migraine is absolute trauma both physically and mentally.

Before I started on preventative tablets, my migraines could last 72 hours or more and this was a constant one sided PAIN (not an ache) in my head. Vomiting until there was nothing left to vomit. One sided weakness or total numbness and aphasia bad enough that I couldn't hold a conversation. I also had significant visual disturbance - I had the lot!!

Hopefully the MRI will give you the answers. It must be a very worrying time for both of you. I do agree with @rebrascora with regards to diet. My instances of just 'normal' headaches and migraines (I do still get some, even on preventative meds) have really reduced since I've cut out all the processed foods and high carbs from my diet.

Good luck xx
 
it is odd that the experts don’t know what’s wrong
It is, yes. For milder balance problems it's not unusual (lots of things can contribute and often the problems just disappear without any diagnosis) but from your descriptions whatever he has isn't mild (and isn't simply problems with balance), so you'd hope they'd have some ideas of what to look at.
 
Hello! I’m new to the forum and I’m hoping some of you may have some suggestions for me, this is a long post so please bear with me and I appreciate your time reading it. My partner is type 1 diabetic - he’s 35. He’s had diabetes 4/5 years now. A little over two weeks ago he developed a severe headache which has got worse over time - he describes it as unbearable (like his brain is swelling and he can’t stand light) he’s also loosing his balance, feels very sick and eating very little because of this. He’s on cocodomol but it doesnt touch the pain. We’ve been in and out of a&e, and he has an MRI scan on Thursday. About 3 1/2 years ago a similar thing happened - head pain, nausea, loss of hair, loss of balance and he ultimately lost his mobility and speech completely. This was regained, but when he was discharged he had a brain seizure and he was induced into a coma. He recovered slowly. His blood readings are presently high - even though he’s hardly eating. His management generally isn’t great (I’m working on this with him and hope to pick up some tips here!) it’s been quite a desperate time, and I’m not completely convinced that these symptoms are not unrelated to the diabetes. He’s seen lots of neuro specialists (3 1/2 years ago and likely to start again) I wondered if anyone had similar experience or has any thoughts?

Really hope they find cause on Thursday.

As symptoms have come on quick like 3 1/2 years ago doubt it's diabetes related but who knows, just replying to wish you both best of luck.
 
How was the MRI?
Hello! How thoughtful, Thank you for asking 🙂 he had the MRI yesterday. He has an appointment with the neurologist, which they have now moved to a face to face from a phone call which is much better. The scan results will be forwarded to the consultant and I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it shows something! I’m feeling better that the right steps now appear to have been taken - we have been lost in the NHS system and it’s been a bit of a battle to get to this stage. He’s still very poorly (he has gone awfully thin with not eating!) he’s managed to have a meal this evening which has been a relief. His blood sugars have been very erratic and he’s been having lots of hypos - he’s not managing to drink an awful lot either… I’ve been trying to get him to speak to the diabetic nurse for guidance with his doses of insulin - he’s quite a stubborn person and thinks he knows best ‍♀️ he’s not the easiest or patients!!!
 
Hello @Little_emz,
Hello! How thoughtful, Thank you for asking 🙂 he had the MRI yesterday. He has an appointment with the neurologist, which they have now moved to a face to face from a phone call which is much better. The scan results will be forwarded to the consultant and I’m keeping my fingers crossed that it shows something! I’m feeling better that the right steps now appear to have been taken - we have been lost in the NHS system and it’s been a bit of a battle to get to this stage.
It must be a great relief to both of you that there has now been an MRI and the NHS system has found your partner again. I can not add anything useful about what the neurologist might have to say (sorry) but I do know something about feeling lost in the system and how debilitating it can become just trying to get access to the right person and then getting that person to listen and read my medical notes thoroughly enough to properly start joining dots!
He’s still very poorly (he has gone awfully thin with not eating!) he’s managed to have a meal this evening which has been a relief. His blood sugars have been very erratic and he’s been having lots of hypos - he’s not managing to drink an awful lot either… I’ve been trying to get him to speak to the diabetic nurse for guidance with his doses of insulin - he’s quite a stubborn person and thinks he knows best ‍♀️ he’s not the easiest or patients!!!
But regarding lots of hypos and erratic blood sugars ...... I've seen my share of that during my first year after my surgery. In a way your partner IS correct - he does know best. If you were to spend an hour with any 5 members of this forum who are insulin dependent all in a room together and quiz them about how they each manage their D, I think you would find that apart from the commonality of being insulin dependent there would be significant variation in how they view and manage their daily living. We all experience such different points of detail; we each have very different perceptions on what seems important. [I had a very clever boss many years ago who would regularly remind us "never mind the facts, the other person's perception is the only thing that matters".] That said, sometimes it needs an external input - which might be very subtle and relatively unique or pretty obvious and just needs stating. Eg: lots of hypos means that someone has got too much insulin on board.

The rather more challenging thing about that apparently obvious statement is why! Is their background (basal) insulin still correct? Basal needs do change and the precise type of basal insulin can hugely influence how much change is appropriate as well as how many times a week, or month, or year!

Or are your partner's shorter term (bolus) insulin doses just excessive for his current circumstances. On the superficial evidence if he's not been eating as much then that would seem an obvious explanation. If he can't manage to eat more, then his meal insulin doses should be reduced. But it's not necessarily quite that simple ..... partly because if one's basal is out of kilter the bolus doses can be chasing a moving target.

Or is someone trying to "correct" excessively, perhaps from a concern or fear about not going too high? [Perception?] Then they can need external guidance / input to adjust their mental attitude about what is safer for them and also more realistic for them. So perhaps its not necessarily just a "numbers" problem in terms of counting carbs and applying some modest maths to derive a best guess at insulin doses.

All of this does mean that only the individual taking insulin can bring in their personal awareness of, for example, have they made a basic mistake in the maths? Have they over or under assessed the consequences of any activity that happened yesterday or even 2 days ago? Has today's activity not going as anticipated? [Oh yes, did I mention that physical activity can require more than 50% reduction in insulin doses - for some but not all people? And did I mention that at the most recent count there are over 40 other Factors that can affect one's blood glucose, after food eaten and insulin taken .... ?]

I am NOT saying this is an impossible conundrum. We, each individual insulin dependent diabetic person, each find our ways of managing; we interpret the circumstances individually; we have different perceptions about which factor or factors are more (or less) important today; and we each have different levels of knowledge about managing our D. We have superficially got the same tools: insulin, means of injecting and ways of measuring our BG; but there are so many different brands of insulin with different characteristics. Dosing by pen or pump. Measuring by finger-pricking and/or a host of different test meters; or with help from CGMs with varying sophistication of their different apps - plus of course how good (reliable) any one person's natural hypo awareness is. So we each find the way that seems to work OKish for us.

Meanwhile your partner has an unbearable headache and serious balance issues. Blatantly very debilitating and frightening. When I'm having a bad D day my judgement can be poor (of course I won't admit to that!) and I certainly can be ill tempered when I'm low; the last thing I need is someone questioning or challenging my meal needs or the timings of when I need to take my bolus for the forthcoming meal. Of course I'm correct! And I do know best! Or at least I do know a great deal more about the myriad of little things that might explain why today was a bad D day and even if I could assemble that inner knowledge and explain it to anyone else I don't have the will or patience to do that explaining.

Sorry this is so long. But last Wednesday you remarked:
"but it’s been really good to reach out on here - not being diabetic myself there is so much I don’t know and I’m keen to learn (with a smiley emoji)".
That is a genuinely helpful start point; and I'm so blessed that my wife has a similar attitude (despite my sometimes dreadful behaviour). Helping me manage my D can be a thankless task for her, without the sheer complexity of it all and the downright fickleness of D - which doesn't know what the rules are, never mind that I sometimes get dressed with the wrong colour socks!

I do most sincerely hope that your partner gets some resolution from his forthcoming neuro Consult, with a workable diagnosis and thus a treatment path.
 
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