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Todays Lunch and numbers....

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eddymyers

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Todays lunch:

12.30 - 7.2mmol/m
Wholemeal sandwich with Olivio spread, cheddar cheese (sliced). lettuce, cucumber, tomato. Apple and a cup of tea (no sugar OBVS!!!)
13.30 - 11.3mmol/l
20 mimute walk down to post office
14.30 - 7.5mmol/l

Is it dangerous (?) that i am up to 11.3 an hour after eating that? is this something i should avoid in the future or is it ok because i am back down to 7.5 after the two hours???
 
eddymyers said:
Todays lunch:

12.30 - 7.2mmol/m
Wholemeal sandwich with Olivio spread, cheddar cheese (sliced). lettuce, cucumber, tomato. Apple and a cup of tea (no sugar OBVS!!!)
13.30 - 11.3mmol/l
20 mimute walk down to post office
14.30 - 7.5mmol/l

Is it dangerous (?) that i am up to 11.3 an hour after eating that? is this something i should avoid in the future or is it ok because i am back down to 7.5 after the two hours???
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Most people using finger pricks would not test before 2 hours so would have no idea of what was going on. But as it was down to the same after 2 hours would say that would be OK.
It perhaps shows that something like the apple was metabolised quite quickly
 
If you are concerned, then not eating the high carb foods should make a difference. I would not have bread at all, and although I do eat apples at this time of year as we have a couple of trees in the garden, I don't have one every day.
Maybe have one or the other but not both on the same day? An ordinary type 2 can reduce intake of carbs and should see a reduction in BG as a result.
 
Thanks for the replies.

Again, i think i am missing something! If we are to avoid spikes surely this is a BAD lunch for me? this is something i can avoid and therefore will be in the future. I don't like this 2 hours after thing - if i spike earlier surely i should address this??

Do these types of spikes increase my HbA1c? I thought that they would and therefore that is why i want to stop them - if possible - but if i only test 2 hours after i will miss when they happen and what makes them happen!
 
I think it is consistently high levels that will affect your HbA1C. If it is still high after 2 hours then rethink what you have.
I would only be by having a Libre or similar CGM that you would know what is happening minute by minute.
If you are concerned then get the free trial offer from Abbott, but sensors then would be a substantial out lay as they are £50 for a sensor which lasts 2 weeks.
 
so....spikes aren't necessarily bad - so long as they reduce in 2 hours?
 
The two hour test is not looking to identify the peak of your spike but that your body responded in a timely manner to bring your levels down again. None diabetic people sometimes spike above 10 within that hour after eating but their body produces insulin to bring it down. It is the longer time that levels are elevated, perhaps due to insulin resistance..... (our cells not wanting to accept the glucose from our blood stream) which means that more of that glucose will end up stuck to our red blood cells.
Your response to that lunch was fine although if you hadn't gone for a walk during that 2 hour period then it might well have been less acceptable, so do give that consideration on the days when you have that lunch and are unable to walk afterwards. It is worth doing a test on the same lunch in that situation to see if the exercise made much difference and if levels don't come down so promptly, then perhaps not have the apple at the same time as the sandwich or have a salad instead of the sandwich with the apple ie one of the carb elements of that meal but not both.
 
i didn't realise apple was a source of carbs!!!!
**EDIT** - and i am looking into the LivLife seriously seeded loaf
 
eddymyers said:
so....spikes aren't necessarily bad - so long as they reduce in 2 hours?
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Yes, moderate spikes above 10 are not in themselves a problem (us Type 1s would be in serious trouble if they were) but you don't want to be spiking up to mid teens or above each day after food and then dropping back down as I can tell you that makes you feel a bit rubbish. This happened to me every morning with breakfast when I was first diagnosed until I realised that I needed to inject my insulin much further in advance of eating breakfast and that was for a relatively low carb breakfast, but my digestive system is pretty fast and my insulin absorption is slow. 🙄 The important thing is that your levels are not remaining too high for prolonged periods. ie beyond 2 hours.
 
eddymyers said:
i didn't realise apple was a source of carbs!!!!
**EDIT** - and i am looking into the LivLife seriously seeded loaf
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All fruits contain carbs to a greater or lesser extent, it is what makes them sweet.
Apples are a moderate carb fruit. Many of us limit ourselves to just a few berries, like rasps or blackberries or strawberries. Blueberries are a little higher than those 3 so a slightly smaller portion of blueberries than rasps etc helps to negate that. I sometimes have just half an apple one day and the other half the next day as an occasional treat and even more occasionally I have half a banana one day and the other half the next as bananas are probably the highest carb fruit. Grapes need to be severely rationed too. 5 or 6 grapes can put my BG levels into orbit unless I inject insulin for it..... especially the nice sweet ones that are so moreish. 🙄 When I think that I could easily sit and eat half a punnet in one go pre diagnosis, I find it quite shocking as to how much insulin my body was having to produce to cover that!
 
eddymyers said:
Todays lunch:

12.30 - 7.2mmol/m
Wholemeal sandwich with Olivio spread, cheddar cheese (sliced). lettuce, cucumber, tomato. Apple and a cup of tea (no sugar OBVS!!!)
13.30 - 11.3mmol/l
20 mimute walk down to post office
14.30 - 7.5mmol/l

Is it dangerous (?) that i am up to 11.3 an hour after eating that? is this something i should avoid in the future or is it ok because i am back down to 7.5 after the two hours???
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The 20 minute walk may have helped bring it down from 11.3. If I go for a post-lunch walk, I find mine goes down to < 4 quite often. (My lunch is usually low carb, but sometimes does have apple in it.)
 
So todays numbers are....
12.30 - 6.4mmol/m
Wholemeal sandwich with Olivio spread, cheddar cheese (sliced). lettuce, cucumber, tomato. Apple and a cup of tea (no sugar OBVS!!!)
13.30 - 11.0mmol/l
NO WALK
14.30 - 8.3mmol/l

I am correc tin thinking that this isn't too bad as the number at 2 hours post eating is lower than 8.5 and not an increase of more than 2mmol/l? I shall do the walk as this seems to have brought me down a bit lower, but i might carry on with the sandwich and apple combination...unless i should be worried at it getting upto 11??
 
harbottle said:
The 20 minute walk may have helped bring it down from 11.3. If I go for a post-lunch walk, I find mine goes down to < 4 quite often. (My lunch is usually low carb, but sometimes does have apple in it.)
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Just writing todfays numbers as you were replying - yes, i am going to walk after my lunch from now on...
 
Given the margin of error in these glucose testers, 8.3 and 7.5 is pretty much the same.
 
i have gotten myself into a situation whereby i only had 2 testing strips left...i have done a test before eating today. i am having 2 sandwiches of LivLife bread with the same ingredients and quantities as before. the grams of LivLife bread x 4 slices is the same as the two slices of wholemeal.

Should i test after 1 hour to see what the high spike is in comparison or leave my final testing strip until two hours after??
 
eddymyers said:
i have gotten myself into a situation whereby i only had 2 testing strips left...i have done a test before eating today. i am having 2 sandwiches of LivLife bread with the same ingredients and quantities as before. the grams of LivLife bread x 4 slices is the same as the two slices of wholemeal.

Should i test after 1 hour to see what the high spike is in comparison or leave my final testing strip until two hours after??
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I did my second (final strip) after the 1 hour to get a 'sdpike' comparison with the other days (see above)...i registered 9.5 one hour after eating the pretty much same lunch apart from 4 slices of LivLife bread instead of 2 slices of Wholemeal bread
 
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