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Tips I have for fellow Type 2 newbies.

Hello.

I’ve been thinking about how scary getting a Type 2 diabetes diagnosis is to start with and all the bits I have learned so far that are helpful.

The following is not medical advice. Just bits you may want to think about and do your own research on. This is what has been working for me - we are all different and you will need to work out what works for you.

  • Don’t panic. It’s normal to feel shocked for a while. There is plenty you can do to help yourself.
  • Knowledge is power. Don’t wait for the doctor to tell you exactly what to do - chances are, you’ll be waiting a long time! Start your own research on diabetes - Diabetes UK has excellent resources. There’s lots of information out there - YouTube, books, podcasts… BUT apply common sense. Don’t fall for quacks trying to sell you stuff, or attempt anything extreme. Question the source of the information and how reliable it is.
  • Reduce your carb intake. Limit pasta, rice, bread, cereals and potatoes. I’m a fatty with a lot of timber to lose, so for the time being I have cut these out altogether and try to stick to a max limit of 150g carbs per day. If you eat the above, choose brown over white and pair with a protein. You still need some carbs - so don’t eliminate them completely! Measure your carbs.
  • Eat protein - especially if you are on weight loss drugs! Losing weight often means losing muscle - protein helps limit that. It also keeps you nice and full. Lean meats, poultry, eggs, fish, plain Greek yoghurt… some beans are high in protein too.
  • Low fat products can often have more sugar than full fat versions so check your labels!
  • Eat your veggies! Lots of them! Leafy dark greens are full of helpful phytonutrients - so get plenty. Some vegetables like sweetcorn and peas are starchy - so eat these in moderation.
  • Fruit - very nutritious but can be full of sugar too. Berries and citrus fruits are the best - mango and bananas are not so good - so again, moderation. Eat fruits paired with protein where possible. Best after a meal as dessert rather than as a snack between meals.
  • Fruit juice is junk food. Delicious, and unfortunately, extremely sugary. Not good for diabetes at all and by the time it has been pasteurised, it’s not particularly nutritious anyway. Avoid! (The exception being that it can help when experiencing low blood sugars - hypoglycaemia).
  • Caffeine spikes some people so work out if it affects you. More water is good. Cut down on booze. Opt for sugar free drinks.
  • Snacks: nuts - particularly almonds and walnuts, a little cheese, peanut butter and apple, seeds, olives, hummus and veg, pork scratchings. Obviously some of these are high in fat so just watch the amounts you eat.
  • Good fats - olive oil, avocados, fish, nuts… there are more and you do need them. Don’t be afraid of good fats - we need them - just in moderation.
  • Avoid trans fats. It’s bottom-tier garbage food.
  • Ditch takeaway food. If I’m in a pinch, I order a subway salad as it’s fairly easy to control what is in it.
  • Nutrition - make sure you are getting all the vitamins and minerals you need - your doctor should advise you if you are deficient. Metformin can make you deficient in B12. Almost everyone is lacking in vitamin D. Ask your doctor if you need to take anything.
  • There are loads of supplements out there - some could react with medications so do your research first! Berberine is often touted as helpful for diabetics - and for some, it certainly could be. But, apparently it shouldn’t be taken along with GLP1 medications. So again - do your research.
  • Chia seeds and milled flax seeds are extremely nutritious and have fibre. They don’t really taste of much, so you can easily toss them in a yogurt, in soups, on salads… you won’t even notice them but they are superfoods that pack a punch.
  • Exercise. Move a bit more - whatever you can manage. Walking is fantastic and free. Do something you enjoy and you’ll likely stick to it.
  • Strength training. If you can incorporate some muscle building exercises in to your life, do. Muscle uses glucose! Also, certain meds and weight loss can cause muscle loss - which you don’t want. Even a few arm curls with some cans of beans could help a bit.
  • If you are a fellow fatty like me, don’t be afraid of the gym. I promise you that everyone there is concentrating on their own workout and won’t be looking at you. And if they do look, so what?! They just get to see a big person trying hard. I can honestly say I could not pick a single person from the gym out of a police line up - I just do my workout and go.
  • Try your local council run gym. Mine is superb - very reasonable price, bang up to date equipment and very inclusive of disabled people.
  • Cravings. I find that cravings are worst in the first two or three weeks of a diet. It gets easier. Most cravings pass in 20 mins or so. You can just acknowledge it and choose to ignore it. I tell myself that I would rather keep my eyesight and feet than give in and have a pizza.
  • Listen to your body. If you are dog tired, rest. You can’t pour from an empty cup.
  • Consistency is key. Weekends are no different to week days. I tend to avoid cheat days because I’m of the nature that they turn in to cheat weeks - and before I know it I’m back to square one.
  • Track your food. Get an app and track everything that passes your lips - it keeps you accountable.
  • Finally, if you have a rough day and slip up FORGIVE YOURSELF. You are not a robot - you are human. Tomorrow is another day. You’ve got this.
This was really helpful- thank you
 
A very thoughtful considered post. Certainly worth pinning for Newbies.
Loads of really good advice in a well thought through and full post. It took me a while to work out a lot of these ideas for myself. I agree that this would be a good post to be pinned to the top. Amongst lots of good advice, the two most important (for me) are that we are all different and that we should use common sense.
 
Hello.

I’ve been thinking about how scary getting a Type 2 diabetes diagnosis is to start with and all the bits I have learned so far that are helpful.

The following is not medical advice. Just bits you may want to think about and do your own research on. This is what has been working for me - we are all different and you will need to work out what works for you.

  • Don’t panic. It’s normal to feel shocked for a while. There is plenty you can do to help yourself.
  • Knowledge is power. Don’t wait for the doctor to tell you exactly what to do - chances are, you’ll be waiting a long time! Start your own research on diabetes - Diabetes UK has excellent resources. There’s lots of information out there - YouTube, books, podcasts… BUT apply common sense. Don’t fall for quacks trying to sell you stuff, or attempt anything extreme. Question the source of the information and how reliable it is.
  • Reduce your carb intake. Limit pasta, rice, bread, cereals and potatoes. I’m a fatty with a lot of timber to lose, so for the time being I have cut these out altogether and try to stick to a max limit of 150g carbs per day. If you eat the above, choose brown over white and pair with a protein. You still need some carbs - so don’t eliminate them completely! Measure your carbs.
  • Eat protein - especially if you are on weight loss drugs! Losing weight often means losing muscle - protein helps limit that. It also keeps you nice and full. Lean meats, poultry, eggs, fish, plain Greek yoghurt… some beans are high in protein too.
  • Low fat products can often have more sugar than full fat versions so check your labels!
  • Eat your veggies! Lots of them! Leafy dark greens are full of helpful phytonutrients - so get plenty. Some vegetables like sweetcorn and peas are starchy - so eat these in moderation.
  • Fruit - very nutritious but can be full of sugar too. Berries and citrus fruits are the best - mango and bananas are not so good - so again, moderation. Eat fruits paired with protein where possible. Best after a meal as dessert rather than as a snack between meals.
  • Fruit juice is junk food. Delicious, and unfortunately, extremely sugary. Not good for diabetes at all and by the time it has been pasteurised, it’s not particularly nutritious anyway. Avoid! (The exception being that it can help when experiencing low blood sugars - hypoglycaemia).
  • Caffeine spikes some people so work out if it affects you. More water is good. Cut down on booze. Opt for sugar free drinks.
  • Snacks: nuts - particularly almonds and walnuts, a little cheese, peanut butter and apple, seeds, olives, hummus and veg, pork scratchings. Obviously some of these are high in fat so just watch the amounts you eat.
  • Good fats - olive oil, avocados, fish, nuts… there are more and you do need them. Don’t be afraid of good fats - we need them - just in moderation.
  • Avoid trans fats. It’s bottom-tier garbage food.
  • Ditch takeaway food. If I’m in a pinch, I order a subway salad as it’s fairly easy to control what is in it.
  • Nutrition - make sure you are getting all the vitamins and minerals you need - your doctor should advise you if you are deficient. Metformin can make you deficient in B12. Almost everyone is lacking in vitamin D. Ask your doctor if you need to take anything.
  • There are loads of supplements out there - some could react with medications so do your research first! Berberine is often touted as helpful for diabetics - and for some, it certainly could be. But, apparently it shouldn’t be taken along with GLP1 medications. So again - do your research.
  • Chia seeds and milled flax seeds are extremely nutritious and have fibre. They don’t really taste of much, so you can easily toss them in a yogurt, in soups, on salads… you won’t even notice them but they are superfoods that pack a punch.
  • Exercise. Move a bit more - whatever you can manage. Walking is fantastic and free. Do something you enjoy and you’ll likely stick to it.
  • Strength training. If you can incorporate some muscle building exercises in to your life, do. Muscle uses glucose! Also, certain meds and weight loss can cause muscle loss - which you don’t want. Even a few arm curls with some cans of beans could help a bit.
  • If you are a fellow fatty like me, don’t be afraid of the gym. I promise you that everyone there is concentrating on their own workout and won’t be looking at you. And if they do look, so what?! They just get to see a big person trying hard. I can honestly say I could not pick a single person from the gym out of a police line up - I just do my workout and go.
  • Try your local council run gym. Mine is superb - very reasonable price, bang up to date equipment and very inclusive of disabled people.
  • Cravings. I find that cravings are worst in the first two or three weeks of a diet. It gets easier. Most cravings pass in 20 mins or so. You can just acknowledge it and choose to ignore it. I tell myself that I would rather keep my eyesight and feet than give in and have a pizza.
  • Listen to your body. If you are dog tired, rest. You can’t pour from an empty cup.
  • Consistency is key. Weekends are no different to week days. I tend to avoid cheat days because I’m of the nature that they turn in to cheat weeks - and before I know it I’m back to square one.
  • Track your food. Get an app and track everything that passes your lips - it keeps you accountable.
  • Finally, if you have a rough day and slip up FORGIVE YOURSELF. You are not a robot - you are human. Tomorrow is another day. You’ve got this.
I have been diagnosed 1 year this month.. had a rough journey became overwhelmed … turned everything around and then celebrated by treating myself!!! Now trying to get my head back in the game.
The above information is so good and what used to get my head into this is new lifestyle I needed. It’s actually motivated me to get back on track.
Thank you for taking the time to write this down as it’s valuable information.
 
Hello.

I’ve been thinking about how scary getting a Type 2 diabetes diagnosis is to start with and all the bits I have learned so far that are helpful.

The following is not medical advice. Just bits you may want to think about and do your own research on. This is what has been working for me - we are all different and you will need to work out what works for you.

  • Don’t panic. It’s normal to feel shocked for a while. There is plenty you can do to help yourself.
  • Knowledge is power. Don’t wait for the doctor to tell you exactly what to do - chances are, you’ll be waiting a long time! Start your own research on diabetes - Diabetes UK has excellent resources. There’s lots of information out there - YouTube, books, podcasts… BUT apply common sense. Don’t fall for quacks trying to sell you stuff, or attempt anything extreme. Question the source of the information and how reliable it is.
  • Reduce your carb intake. Limit pasta, rice, bread, cereals and potatoes. I’m a fatty with a lot of timber to lose, so for the time being I have cut these out altogether and try to stick to a max limit of 150g carbs per day. If you eat the above, choose brown over white and pair with a protein. You still need some carbs - so don’t eliminate them completely! Measure your carbs.
  • Eat protein - especially if you are on weight loss drugs! Losing weight often means losing muscle - protein helps limit that. It also keeps you nice and full. Lean meats, poultry, eggs, fish, plain Greek yoghurt… some beans are high in protein too.
  • Low fat products can often have more sugar than full fat versions so check your labels!
  • Eat your veggies! Lots of them! Leafy dark greens are full of helpful phytonutrients - so get plenty. Some vegetables like sweetcorn and peas are starchy - so eat these in moderation.
  • Fruit - very nutritious but can be full of sugar too. Berries and citrus fruits are the best - mango and bananas are not so good - so again, moderation. Eat fruits paired with protein where possible. Best after a meal as dessert rather than as a snack between meals.
  • Fruit juice is junk food. Delicious, and unfortunately, extremely sugary. Not good for diabetes at all and by the time it has been pasteurised, it’s not particularly nutritious anyway. Avoid! (The exception being that it can help when experiencing low blood sugars - hypoglycaemia).
  • Caffeine spikes some people so work out if it affects you. More water is good. Cut down on booze. Opt for sugar free drinks.
  • Snacks: nuts - particularly almonds and walnuts, a little cheese, peanut butter and apple, seeds, olives, hummus and veg, pork scratchings. Obviously some of these are high in fat so just watch the amounts you eat.
  • Good fats - olive oil, avocados, fish, nuts… there are more and you do need them. Don’t be afraid of good fats - we need them - just in moderation.
  • Avoid trans fats. It’s bottom-tier garbage food.
  • Ditch takeaway food. If I’m in a pinch, I order a subway salad as it’s fairly easy to control what is in it.
  • Nutrition - make sure you are getting all the vitamins and minerals you need - your doctor should advise you if you are deficient. Metformin can make you deficient in B12. Almost everyone is lacking in vitamin D. Ask your doctor if you need to take anything.
  • There are loads of supplements out there - some could react with medications so do your research first! Berberine is often touted as helpful for diabetics - and for some, it certainly could be. But, apparently it shouldn’t be taken along with GLP1 medications. So again - do your research.
  • Chia seeds and milled flax seeds are extremely nutritious and have fibre. They don’t really taste of much, so you can easily toss them in a yogurt, in soups, on salads… you won’t even notice them but they are superfoods that pack a punch.
  • Exercise. Move a bit more - whatever you can manage. Walking is fantastic and free. Do something you enjoy and you’ll likely stick to it.
  • Strength training. If you can incorporate some muscle building exercises in to your life, do. Muscle uses glucose! Also, certain meds and weight loss can cause muscle loss - which you don’t want. Even a few arm curls with some cans of beans could help a bit.
  • If you are a fellow fatty like me, don’t be afraid of the gym. I promise you that everyone there is concentrating on their own workout and won’t be looking at you. And if they do look, so what?! They just get to see a big person trying hard. I can honestly say I could not pick a single person from the gym out of a police line up - I just do my workout and go.
  • Try your local council run gym. Mine is superb - very reasonable price, bang up to date equipment and very inclusive of disabled people.
  • Cravings. I find that cravings are worst in the first two or three weeks of a diet. It gets easier. Most cravings pass in 20 mins or so. You can just acknowledge it and choose to ignore it. I tell myself that I would rather keep my eyesight and feet than give in and have a pizza.
  • Listen to your body. If you are dog tired, rest. You can’t pour from an empty cup.
  • Consistency is key. Weekends are no different to week days. I tend to avoid cheat days because I’m of the nature that they turn in to cheat weeks - and before I know it I’m back to square one.
  • Track your food. Get an app and track everything that passes your lips - it keeps you accountable.
  • Finally, if you have a rough day and slip up FORGIVE YOURSELF. You are not a robot - you are human. Tomorrow is another day. You’ve got this.
Hello.

I’ve been thinking about how scary getting a Type 2 diabetes diagnosis is to start with and all the bits I have learned so far that are helpful.

The following is not medical advice. Just bits you may want to think about and do your own research on. This is what has been working for me - we are all different and you will need to work out what works for you.

  • Don’t panic. It’s normal to feel shocked for a while. There is plenty you can do to help yourself.
  • Knowledge is power. Don’t wait for the doctor to tell you exactly what to do - chances are, you’ll be waiting a long time! Start your own research on diabetes - Diabetes UK has excellent resources. There’s lots of information out there - YouTube, books, podcasts… BUT apply common sense. Don’t fall for quacks trying to sell you stuff, or attempt anything extreme. Question the source of the information and how reliable it is.
  • Reduce your carb intake. Limit pasta, rice, bread, cereals and potatoes. I’m a fatty with a lot of timber to lose, so for the time being I have cut these out altogether and try to stick to a max limit of 150g carbs per day. If you eat the above, choose brown over white and pair with a protein. You still need some carbs - so don’t eliminate them completely! Measure your carbs.
  • Eat protein - especially if you are on weight loss drugs! Losing weight often means losing muscle - protein helps limit that. It also keeps you nice and full. Lean meats, poultry, eggs, fish, plain Greek yoghurt… some beans are high in protein too.
  • Low fat products can often have more sugar than full fat versions so check your labels!
  • Eat your veggies! Lots of them! Leafy dark greens are full of helpful phytonutrients - so get plenty. Some vegetables like sweetcorn and peas are starchy - so eat these in moderation.
  • Fruit - very nutritious but can be full of sugar too. Berries and citrus fruits are the best - mango and bananas are not so good - so again, moderation. Eat fruits paired with protein where possible. Best after a meal as dessert rather than as a snack between meals.
  • Fruit juice is junk food. Delicious, and unfortunately, extremely sugary. Not good for diabetes at all and by the time it has been pasteurised, it’s not particularly nutritious anyway. Avoid! (The exception being that it can help when experiencing low blood sugars - hypoglycaemia).
  • Caffeine spikes some people so work out if it affects you. More water is good. Cut down on booze. Opt for sugar free drinks.
  • Snacks: nuts - particularly almonds and walnuts, a little cheese, peanut butter and apple, seeds, olives, hummus and veg, pork scratchings. Obviously some of these are high in fat so just watch the amounts you eat.
  • Good fats - olive oil, avocados, fish, nuts… there are more and you do need them. Don’t be afraid of good fats - we need them - just in moderation.
  • Avoid trans fats. It’s bottom-tier garbage food.
  • Ditch takeaway food. If I’m in a pinch, I order a subway salad as it’s fairly easy to control what is in it.
  • Nutrition - make sure you are getting all the vitamins and minerals you need - your doctor should advise you if you are deficient. Metformin can make you deficient in B12. Almost everyone is lacking in vitamin D. Ask your doctor if you need to take anything.
  • There are loads of supplements out there - some could react with medications so do your research first! Berberine is often touted as helpful for diabetics - and for some, it certainly could be. But, apparently it shouldn’t be taken along with GLP1 medications. So again - do your research.
  • Chia seeds and milled flax seeds are extremely nutritious and have fibre. They don’t really taste of much, so you can easily toss them in a yogurt, in soups, on salads… you won’t even notice them but they are superfoods that pack a punch.
  • Exercise. Move a bit more - whatever you can manage. Walking is fantastic and free. Do something you enjoy and you’ll likely stick to it.
  • Strength training. If you can incorporate some muscle building exercises in to your life, do. Muscle uses glucose! Also, certain meds and weight loss can cause muscle loss - which you don’t want. Even a few arm curls with some cans of beans could help a bit.
  • If you are a fellow fatty like me, don’t be afraid of the gym. I promise you that everyone there is concentrating on their own workout and won’t be looking at you. And if they do look, so what?! They just get to see a big person trying hard. I can honestly say I could not pick a single person from the gym out of a police line up - I just do my workout and go.
  • Try your local council run gym. Mine is superb - very reasonable price, bang up to date equipment and very inclusive of disabled people.
  • Cravings. I find that cravings are worst in the first two or three weeks of a diet. It gets easier. Most cravings pass in 20 mins or so. You can just acknowledge it and choose to ignore it. I tell myself that I would rather keep my eyesight and feet than give in and have a pizza.
  • Listen to your body. If you are dog tired, rest. You can’t pour from an empty cup.
  • Consistency is key. Weekends are no different to week days. I tend to avoid cheat days because I’m of the nature that they turn in to cheat weeks - and before I know it I’m back to square one.
  • Track your food. Get an app and track everything that passes your lips - it keeps you accountable.
  • Finally, if you have a rough day and slip up FORGIVE YOURSELF. You are not a robot - you are human. Tomorrow is another day. You’ve got this.
 
This is extremely useful advice. However, when I was diagnosed I was told not to cut carbs out, but have them at every meal. At the time the low carb diet was unfashionable. Other people may have the same experience
 
This is extremely useful advice. However, when I was diagnosed I was told not to cut carbs out, but have them at every meal. At the time the low carb diet was unfashionable. Other people may have the same experience
Welcome to the forum, I hope you will be able to pick out some useful tips and maybe a new way of thinking about your diet. It is more recognised now as to how powerful diet can be if Type 2 and can mean that people do not need medication by reducing their carb intake. It is worth noting however that Low Carb is NOT NO carbs but limiting intake to a level that you as an individual can tolerate and that will very person to person. Some people will be OK with around 130g per day but some will need to go less especially if they are not on medication.
Having a blood glucose monitor for home testing will enable people to determine their own amount they can tolerate.
Edited to add
I have just seen your other post and see you are taking insulin so it is a different ball game re diet.
 
I didn't mention this, but I was on a low carb diet in the 70s, and I was hungry all the time, and I didn't lose much weight. I'm not anti low carb, but I really don't like being hungry. My dad had type 2, and was on a low carb diet in the 70s, and he also complained about being hungry all the time.
 
I didn't mention this, but I was on a low carb diet in the 70s, and I was hungry all the time, and I didn't lose much weight. I'm not anti low carb, but I really don't like being hungry. My dad had type 2, and was on a low carb diet in the 70s, and he also complained about being hungry all the time.
My experience was the opposite. I was craving carbs prior to diagnosis and eating loads but losing weight. After diagnosis I was put on Metformin and went on a low carb diet around 130g per day after reading about reducing carbs on the forum and doing my own research.
As I needed to regain muscle mass and weight I kept my calorie intake to approx 2000 per day and increased the protein and fats in place of the carbs.
As my blood sugars started reducing I felt less hungry and tired. When I started Gliclazide I increased the carbs to no more than 150g, but I am reducing this as my blood sugar continues to reduce.
I am still work in progress but I am keeping to lower carb along with regular exercise and medication.
 
I didn't mention this, but I was on a low carb diet in the 70s, and I was hungry all the time, and I didn't lose much weight. I'm not anti low carb, but I really don't like being hungry. My dad had type 2, and was on a low carb diet in the 70s, and he also complained about being hungry all the time.
Hunger is, for many people, avoidable by increasing fats (good fats) and protein intake. This is particularly appropriate for T2s not on insulin or other potential hypo creating medications.

Unexpectedly eating carbs creates an expectation of more carbs and thus feelings of hunger when carbs are paused or stopped. So there can be some transition hunger pangs. In his book "Think Like a Pancreas", Gary Scheiner points out that proteins and fats will be metabolised into glucose, when one's body has insufficient carbs. Because these conversions occur at different speeds and conversion rates, than would occur for carbs, he tells his readers that any single meal should contain at least 30 gm carbs to keep carb counting for insulin dosing fairly simple and prevent the need to count equivalent carbs from fats and proteins. In practice 3 main meals each with only 30 gms carbs is well below the initial suggested target of low carb at 130 gms per day. Reversing Gary Scheiner's logic, ie eating more fats and proteins with even less carbs, will provide ample nutrition to satisfy our metabolic needs and our brain learns to be satisfied with glucose coming from those fats and proteins. Hence hunger pangs stop.

I happen to have a very high fat and protein breakfast, with no more than 50 gms carbs and I have noticed that over time my eating pattern has gone to 2 x meals daily (breakfast and evening). I have stopped feeling hungry midday, don't need a midday meal (although I might have a biscuit with a latte midday) and unintentionally gained a meal slot where I don't need a "3rd" bolus injection. I didn't set out with that intention, it's just evolved this way. I'm presuming my body is metabolising the breakfast fats and proteins 4 or 5 hrs later and providing glucose through the day - which my brain feels it must have!

It's a rare day that I eat more than 150 gms of carbs - not because I meant to, it's just how my routine has developed. I eat what I want and seem to have found a manageable insulin regime that is in tune with my daily diet. My weight has been very steady for at least 5 years.
 
I didn't mention this, but I was on a low carb diet in the 70s, and I was hungry all the time, and I didn't lose much weight. I'm not anti low carb, but I really don't like being hungry. My dad had type 2, and was on a low carb diet in the 70s, and he also complained about being hungry all the time.
Were you also following a low fat diet in the 70s as that was the big era for the low fat message. Now it is generally recognised that if you go low carb you need to eat normal fats and more protein and plenty of fibre from veggies to make up for the lack of carbs. So things like full fat Greek yoghurt and full fat cheese and whole milk or even cream which I have in my coffee every morning and a knob of butter on my cabbage and avocado and olives and nuts and seeds. These are the things which provide you with slow release energy and make you feel satiated. In fact it is now believed by some that the low fat advice we have been given all our lives may partly have lead to the obesity and diabetes epidemic we are part of because without those fats we felt hungry sooner and started snacking between meals leading to us eating more biscuits and crisps to top us up between meals. I certainly find if I eat much less carbs and more fat I can easily manage on 2 meals a day without feeling hungry and more importantly the less carbs I eat, the less cravings I get for them and for me the cravings were a major problem.
 
Well done for this. Best thing I've read today
 
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