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The Newcastle University Diabetic trial with ground-breaking results

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Hi,
Does anyone know where to find details of the Newcastle University's Diabetes trial which appeared to show a complete reversal of diabetes in newly diagnosed type 2 diabetics who weren't on insulin?

I'd like to know the exact details of the 600 calorie a day diet (I understand it consisted of 2 shakes & non-starchy fruit & vegetables but it wasn't reported which shakes & I don't know which fruit & vegetables are classed as non-starchy) Also how was the trial was conducted and what, if any, contra indications were there?

I've spoken to my diabetic nurse who hasn't heard of the trial. I undesrtand it was funded by Diabetes UK and it was widely reported on the BBC & in articles in the Guardian but I haven't managed to find out anything more.

Clearly there would have to be close monitoring by your GP if anyone undertook this diet and also the GP would need to advise if you were in sufficiently good health to undertake such a radical solution - as well as checking your medications.

I'd be really grateful to receive any information regarding this trial as, if my GP agreed, I'd really like to try it.

Thanks in anticipation,

Rose
 
Hi Rose, welcome to the forum 🙂 I'm afraid the way this research was reported has been totally overblown by the media, raising people's hopes artificially. It is highly unlikely that a GP would sanction a patient pursuing such an extreme diet as you would need to be extremely closely monitored and have specially-prepared meals. Have a read of the recent discussion we have had on the topic:

http://www.diabetessupport.co.uk/boards/showthread.php?t=18772

You should also read what Jenny Ruhl has to say about it:

http://diabetesupdate.blogspot.com/2011/06/idiotically-dangerous-diet-reverses.html

This is NOT a cure for diabetes, it is just an initial indication from a very small study and not a viable option for an individual to undertake, at least until further work is done.
 
I've said it elsewhere, but I'll say it again (sorry chapesses and chaps, I'm a stuck record, I know!) :D

I don't believe that it is necessary to be so calorie restrictive. From personal experience I can say that a straight forward weight loss diet with less saturated fat and a reasonable level of exercise may achieve the same results as this trial.

It certainly has worked for me ...... up to now.

Last HbA1c was 5.9% and I have not been on any medication for well over a year now.

Andy 🙂
 
I agree.

A calorie restrictive diet that is geared to losing weight by burning a certain amount of fat, including structured (though not necessarily strenuous) exercise will improve anyone's diabetes, unless other conditions prevent it.

Rather than a few weeks of very low calorie diet, it would be better to start reducing slowly, whilst amending lifestyle to exclude certain foods, restrict others and gradually including the exercise. That way, it's likely to become a lifestyle change, rather than a short term punishment.

Either method requires a lot of hard work, dedication and is not for the feint hearted. I speak as someone who probably couldn't do either unless I really had to.

Rob
 
We have just had a new member by the name of Ric in China i think and he is on this(from what i remember he is a week into it), maybe he will be along and can give some insight.
 
Bear in mind that Ric in China has a list of health problems, which he felt he needed to lose weight quickly to address.
He's also resident in China, and is also under the supervision of a US medical team.

It's unlikely that, unless in extreme circumstances, a UK doctor would want to go through with a similar course.🙂

Rob
 
Robster65 said:
Bear in mind that Ric in China has a list of health problems, which he felt he needed to lose weight quickly to address.
He's also resident in China, and is also under the supervision of a US medical team.

It's unlikely that, unless in extreme circumstances, a UK doctor would want to go through with a similar course.🙂

Rob
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Oh yeah I know,but he has the most knowledge on it from this forums perspective thats why I mentioned his name (which I hope he does not mind)
 
Whatever our opinions are of this study I think we are all agreed it would be dangerous to try to undertake it without adequate medical supervision. If the details of the shakes and meals were published desperate people might try to 'go it alone' and that could be disaterous.

Welcome to the forums Rose. I'm sure you'll find encouragement and sensible advice here. XXXXX
 
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