Super-size ambulance

[Steff]

A programme thats on tonight on BBC1 at 9 pm follows Thames ambulance biaratric service, they take pacients weighing upto 70 stone to and from hospital..Should be an interesting insight..

 

[Caroline]

saw the trailer, it looks interesting, but that is around bed time for me on a week day because I get up early for work.

 

[StephenM]

They had an item last week about a new St. John's Ambulance in Essex that catered for people up to 50 stone! It's beyond me how anybody could let themselves get to that size!

 

[novorapidboi26]

They had an item last week about a new St. John's Ambulance in Essex that catered for people up to 50 stone! It's beyond me how anybody could let themselves get to that size!

Food Addiction............that seems like an easy explanation though doesn't it, it is a shock to be honest.........😱

 

[C*5_Dodger]

They had an item last week about a new St. John's Ambulance in Essex that catered for people up to 50 stone! It's beyond me how anybody could let themselves get to that size!

They don't let themselves get to that size - they have little option because there is a chemical imbalance (chronically high insulin) causing calories to be trapped in the fat tissue. Thus the organs and lean tissue are starved, the result is overeating in an attempt to compensate, it's a sort of addiction.

Regards Dodger

 

[novorapidboi26]

They don't let themselves get to that size - they have little option because there is a chemical imbalance (chronically high insulin) causing calories to be trapped in the fat tissue. Thus the organs and lean tissue are starved, the result is overeating in an attempt to compensate, it's a sort of addiction.

Regards Dodger

Is this the process taking place with all morbidly obese folk?.............to me there is always an option, not easy options though, as having the strength to say no to your own body sometimes may seem impossible..........

 

[Northerner]

Is this the process taking place with all morbidly obese folk?.............to me there is always an option, not easy options though, as having the strength to say no to your own body sometimes may seem impossible..........

There is a lot in what Dodger says - explained quite well in 'The Insulin Factor':

http://www.diabetessupport.co.uk/boards/showthread.php?t=4047

 

[novorapidboi26]

There is a lot in what Dodger says - explained quite well in 'The Insulin Factor':

http://www.diabetessupport.co.uk/boards/showthread.php?t=4047

Thanks for that................😉

 

[AlisonM]

No, Novo, there are many reasons for obesity and few of them have anything to do with being a greedy guts. A friend has a child who can't tell when he's had enough to eat and consequently she has to padlock the fridge and dole out food to keep him from overeating - I forget what the condition is called. Another person I know suffers severe bouts of depression and comfort eats when things get bad, there's a chemical imbalance in her brain. I've had large doses of steroids throughout my life and would have to be a manic bodybuilder/weight lifter to control weight gain - it's been slowly creeping up for years and I've always been apicky eater because of the allergies. I've never been a 'big' eater either. Across Scotland, low incomes lead to poor diet and that in turn leads to obesity. That last might be eased with proper education and everyone being taught to how cook healthily on a budget.

In fact there are almost as many ways to get fat as there fat folk.

 

[gail2]

No, Novo, there are many reasons for obesity and few of them have anything to do with being a greedy guts. A friend has a child who can't tell when he's had enough to eat and consequently she has to padlock the fridge and dole out food to keep him from overeating - I forget what the condition is called. Another person I know suffers severe bouts of depression and comfort eats when things get bad, there's a chemical imbalance in her brain. I've had large doses of steroids throughout my life and would have to be a manic bodybuilder/weight lifter to control weight gain - it's been slowly creeping up for years and I've always been apicky eater because of the allergies. I've never been a 'big' eater either. Across Scotland, low incomes lead to poor diet and that in turn leads to obesity. That last might be eased with proper education and everyone being taught to how cook healthily on a budget.

In fact there are almost as many ways to get fat as there fat folk.

Well said you wrote wot i was going to say except you put it a lot more policity

 

[novorapidboi26]

Knowing that there a many ways to put on weight I was asking if the chemical imbalance dodger mentioned is present in all who are obese, whether its because they are depressed, cant afford better food or other unforeseen conditions........

I am keen to learn about it as I myself could do with losing a few pounds, but if this imbalance mentioned occurs in all folk, diabetic or not, the job of losing weight seems much harder on the diabetic folk who already have, lack of/malfunctioning insulin as well as insulin resistance...........

The book linked.......Insulin Factor may be getting purchased..............

 

[novorapidboi26]

Well said you wrote wot i was going to say except you put it a lot more policity

Do you want to shout at me.............did I say something wrong.............

 

[AlisonM]

Sorry, Novo, I should learn to read what is writ. 😱 On reflection, I think the answer to your post is: more than likely there is some chemical imbalance or genetic factor involved.

 

[novorapidboi26]

Sorry, Novo, I should learn to read what is writ. 😱 On reflection, I think the answer to your post is: more than likely there is some chemical imbalance or genetic factor involved.

Dont be silly, my communication skills online are always being developed....

 

[Steff]

Hope you all watch the show...😉😉🙄

 

[C*5_Dodger]

Is this the process taking place with all morbidly obese folk?.............to me there is always an option, not easy options though, as having the strength to say no to your own body sometimes may seem impossible..........

Dear novo,

It does not apply to all obese people, for example some people are obese because of a pathalogical condition, but in otherwise healthy people the problem is as I described. When you eat food some of it is used immediately, the rest goes into your short term storage locations (fat tissue) in the time between meals, and particularly overnight, the fat is released to provide energy. When people become insulin resistant the resulting high insulin levels prevent this release giving the problem described.

Regards Dodger

 

[novorapidboi26]

Dear novo,

It does not apply to all obese people, for example some people are obese because of a pathalogical condition, but in otherwise healthy people the problem is as I described. When you eat food some of it is used immediately, the rest goes into your short term storage locations (fat tissue) in the time between meals, and particularly overnight, the fat is released to provide energy. When people become insulin resistant the resulting high insulin levels prevent this release giving the problem described.

Regards Dodger

Nicely explained.............many thanks............

 

[Catwoman76]

In the 1960's only 1% of men and 2% of women in England were classed as obese, compared to todays 25.2% of men and 25.2% of women. At the end of the 1950's the average man weighed 10.2 stone (65K) and the average women 8.7 stone(55k) Today the average weights are 13.2 and 11.1 respectively.

Professor Oddy, Social historian and author of The Rise of Obesity in England said ' Nowaday, our increasingly sedentary lives paired with the poliferation of a wide range of unhealthy foods have combined to create a very difficult enviroment for people to reach and maintain healthy weight'

It's a sad world nowadays, people shopping online, going everwhere in their cars, kids taken to school and clubs by car. Children stuck to the Wii, X Box , DS games mobile phones etc. I help at a church club for kids on Thursday night,2 kids came 2 weeks ago and my Tia was the only one there last week. It looks like it might be closing soon and my Tia loves it, playing games, table tennis, darts, throwing a ball and sticking and glueing and it only costs just 50p.

When my dad came home from work we all had a good healthy meal and a lovely pudding to follow. Crisps, Chocolate, sweets and fast food outlets were deemed as a special treat then, but not, as it seems, nowadays.

The NHS are struggling with things now and I hate to think what it will be like when my daughter and grandchildren become adults Sheena

 

[C*5_Dodger]

Hope you all watch the show...😉😉🙄

Dear Steff,

I will not be watching the show - I would find it too depressing! BTW, sorry we sort of hijacked your thread.

Regards Dodger

 

[novorapidboi26]

I will be recording it on the V+ box, Gordos Great escape is on Channel 4 at that time, this week he is off to Malaysia...........