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I really think you need to explain, Hobie. What posts?
 
Well there are many foodstuffs a lot of people wouldn't touch with a bargepole - even non-carb things Hobie - offal for starters, that an AWFUL lot of folk say they hate but have probably not even tried, but there again a lot have and simply don't like - the same with quite a lot of fishy things - which I know you particularly relish - I couldn't eat. And I have tried, cos it looks and smells delicious, so why wouldn't I? Quite lot is just too damn FISHY!

But I don't rant about it - cos we are ALL different - so we ALL need to be TOLERANT - don't we?

Plus of course on a diabetes forum catering for ALL - not everyone low carbs, and absolutely not everyone needs to, not have they all been brought up eating 'proper' food made from raw ingredients or later done it themselves. Two of my own grandchildren, aged approx. 7 and 5 - were mystified when their dad, er, 'scrumped' a potato plant growing at the very edge of a field they were walking the dogs down the edge of one evening, whilst camping nearby. Everyone knows that spuds don't GROW - they OBVIOUSLY come neatly prepacked in polythene bags, in Sainsbury's etc!

Yet mum is a chef, and cooks everything from scratch with the best ingredients she can find available, near where they live. So they haven't been brought up being fed c**p at home - whilst still getting occasional visits to McDs or Subway, pubs or mega upmarket French restaurants and bistros whilst on holiday.

They know better now of course - but they'd still rather ring Domino's and order a pizza delivery, which they both are happy to spend their wages on, than walk in the kitchen and either get one out of the freezer and shove it in the oven - or cook something else, which they are both entirely capable of.

I don't know why either Hobie - but that's just how the vast majority of younger people seem to have decided to behave! No I'm not adapting my diet either - but I do know we have to try and appeal to the modern tastebuds - by finding suggestions of modern seeming stuff with cunningly incorporated lower carb ingredients, or they really are what John Laurie used to tell us ! (All Doomed, in case anyone doesn't know LOL)
 
Well said! I love salmon but have seen at least one post here from someone who hates it; some people love calamari (squid), but I find it to be like chewing pencil erasers. 🙄 Maybe if it were crispy fried...

And if my carer were ever to lament to me about being forbidden pork (he's a Moslem, and a very kind and professional one), I would tell him that he's not missing anything; chicken tastes very similar (possibly the same, depending on preparation, sauces etc.), and I find it more tender.

We're all different.
 
Vicsetter said:
Anyone got a good recipe for cardboard?
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Ever tried Doritos? 🙄 Especially the Pizza ones they sold about 15 years ago; dip them in garlic sauce, and they tasted just like garlic-flavoured cardboard. 😱🙄
 
Well hobie, here's the thing, neither you, nor I or anyone else has any right to tell other people what to eat. People post about food they like and want help to bolus for or want to know if it's wise to eat those things, if everyone rushes to judgement about eating something "unhealthy" then the forum becomes utterly useless because it exists to help people. I eat a very healthy diet, very, and that includes all food groups including some items you wouldn't eat because you'd think them unhealthy. Other people eat things I wouldn't touch if you paid me, but the aim of eating a healthy diet is balance and moderation. Depriving people of foods they really love is unlikely to be sustainable. I think it's extremely positive that members feel comfortable enough to talk about all their issues and all food types and think we'd be all the poorer if people thought they couldn't honestly talk about their diet without pretending to be super healthy, so long may it continue.
 
But what IS healthy, Hobie, given there is no such thing as an intrinsically 'healthy' food?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...5c2d24-ba52-11e5-829c-26ffb874a18d_story.html

Is a vitamin-rich smoothie, successfully bolused for, 'healthy' or 'unhealthy'?

Is a diet based on pork scratchings 'healthy' or 'unhealthy'?

It's about context, isn't it?

Some people are able to eat food choices that you consider 'unhealthy' with no impact on their health. Others can't. It's a highly individual condition and after being heavily involved in 'carb wars' on other forums in the past, I still stick by my mantra of YMMV (Your Mileage May Vary) - in other words, give people a range of options and let them find what works for them.

Mental health is the often-overlooked element of diabetes and I do wonder whether those who are made to feel morally defective for choosing one food which doesn't always deliver the best physical health result are the ones most likely to get diabetes burnout which then creates a vicious circle.
 
I looked at several forums ( fora?) before deciding to join this one. On one of them, I found threads where it was obvious that nobody dared post anything other than perfect readings and perfect low carb diet. Not for me! I'd much rather feel comfortable, (as I do on here,) that I don't always get it right, and that I need to accommodate a diet I feel suits my particular body with my particular brand of diabetes, and with my favourite treats built in, without feeling I'm letting the diabetic brother/sisterhood down!
 
Apart from anything else, foods aren't alive (at least, it's to be hoped not!😱) and thus cannot be "healthy"; the correct term (where applicable) is "nutritious".

Robin said:
I looked at several forums ( fora?) before deciding to join this one. On one of them, I found threads where it was obvious that nobody dared post anything other than perfect readings and perfect low carb diet. Not for me! I'd much rather feel comfortable, (as I do on here,) that I don't always get it right, and that I need to accommodate a diet I feel suits my particular body with my particular brand of diabetes, and with my favourite treats built in, without feeling I'm letting the diabetic brother/sisterhood down!
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Those on that forum would do well to look at my sig. 🙄 It's a far too common attitude...
 
robert@fm said:
Apart from anything else, foods aren't alive (at least, it's to be hoped not!😱) and thus cannot be "healthy"; the correct term (where applicable) is "nutritious".
Those on that forum would do well to look at my sig. 🙄 It's a far too common attitude...
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I did sign up to that forum 😱 after reading a few of those sorts of replies I joined here and never looked back. I like the fact I can post This idiot (me) has eaten a huge slice of cake and not get a verbal pasting for it.
 
I wholeheartedly agree with Robin I do not follow the lchf diet because for me I know I could not sustain it and neither can I make myself have high fat as I have obviously been indoctrinated to believe that high fat is bad. Lol x I have however cut my carbohydrate consumption and eat to my meter so to speak if my meter says high after eating I avoid that food in future so far I can't eat breakfast cereal or porridge or rice and more without a hike in BG levels.
I like being on this forum because I don't feel judged in anyway and I thank everyone for that x
 
robert@fm said:
Apart from anything else, foods aren't alive (at least, it's to be hoped not!😱) and thus cannot be "healthy"; the correct term (where applicable) is "nutritious".



Those on that forum would do well to look at my sig. 🙄 It's a far too common attitude...
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You've obviously never eaten live oysters or scallops then. Healthy/Nutritious we all know what is meant.
 
I will voice my opinion as I have a feeling this post is because of what I've been posting for a month and a half after being diagnosed I didn't touch anything apart from my meals and I was even scared to eat that, my DSN told me not to deny myself a bar of chocolate or a teacake etc as that would have a bad impact on me mentally and that I needed to adjust my life to fit these little treats in as if I didn't it would lead to me feeling very miserable etc so I may add a chocolate bar or a chocolate teacake into my menu once or twice a week, I allow for it and have 1 yorkshire pudding with tea rather than 2, I swap bread for something lower carb at lunch to have a bar of chocolate if I didn't do this I wouldn't be normal I adjust my insulin to cover it and keep an eye on my levels but now I wish I'd never said anything as I do feel like I'm being judged :(
 
I do not think we are here as school teachers or food police. Yes we can advise people from the knowledge we gained and our own experiences but their lives are not our lives and if someone has eaten cereal for breakfast all their lives they might not be happy with someone saying, no definitely do not do that. Surely it is better to guide them as to how they can choose the best cereal for themselves. It is no good telling someone who has had toast and marmalade for breakfast every day that they should not have that without giving them some ideas as to what they can have. One of the biggest questions people changing to a low carb diet ask is "what can I have for breakfast" as if one has to eat something different for breakfast. Cereals for breakfast was a good marketing ploy by the cereal manufacturers.
 
Manda1 said:
I wholeheartedly agree with Robin I do not follow the lchf diet because for me I know I could not sustain it and neither can I make myself have high fat as I have obviously been indoctrinated to believe that high fat is bad. Lol x I have however cut my carbohydrate consumption and eat to my meter so to speak if my meter says high after eating I avoid that food in future so far I can't eat breakfast cereal or porridge or rice and more without a hike in BG levels.
I like being on this forum because I don't feel judged in anyway and I thank everyone for that x
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Im the same as you. I know that I could not stick to the LCHF way of doing things, been there tried that! So I stick to a lowish carb and low fat way of eating. I dont do ready meals of any kind, I prefer to cook everything from scratch.
 
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